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August 29, 2015, 05:11:57 PM



Trump: I’m winning because Americans are 'tired of being the patsies'



Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump says he is leading the GOP race because he represents Americans who have had it with their nation coming up short.
 
“People in this country are smart,” he told listeners at the National Federation of Republican Assemblies’ 2015 conference in Nashville on Saturday.
 
“We’re tired of being the patsies for everyone,” Trump said.
 

“There is a big, big, growing-by-leaps-and-bounds silent majority out there. [The 2016 race] is going to be an election based on competence.”
 
Trump argued he is surging in national polls because he represents the Tea Party supporters ignored by Democrats and betrayed by Republicans.
 
“I love the Tea Party,” Trump said. “You people have not been treated fairly. These are people who work hard and love their country, and then get beat up by the media. It’s disgusting.”
 
“At least I have a microphone and can fight back,” the outspoken billionaire added.
 
Trump indicated he envisions a much wider base for his campaign than traditional Republican voters next election cycle.
 
“You don’t know how big you are,” he told listeners. “The Tea Party has tremendous power. It’s Democrats, it is evangelicals, it is everybody.”
 
The New York business mogul also vowed he would not succumb to the prestige and power of Washington’s political establishment if he wins in 2016.
 
“They go to Washington and they get weak,” Trump said of Democrats and Republicans alike. “They get there and they see these beautiful, vaulted ceilings and they say, ‘Honey, I’ve made it.’ That won’t happen to me, I promise.”
 
Trump also said he intends on saving taxpayer dollars by focusing his energy on the nation’s capital if elected next year.
 
“I think I’d maybe never leave,” Trump quipped of the Oval Office. “I’d do the fundraisers in the White House. Whoever the [interview] host is would like it better – ‘Hey, we’re live from the White House.’”
 
“Do you know how much it costs to fuel those things?” he joked of jets like Air Force One.
 
“We have so many things to do to straighten out our country,” Trump added. “We can’t waste time.”
 
Trump’s address at the NFRA’s 2015 conference Saturday was attended by many notable figures from the original Tea Party movement.
 
The organization’s president is Sharron Angle, who unsuccessfully challenged Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) in 2010.
 
The NFRA’s executive vice president is Ken Blackwell, a challenger for Ohio’s gubernatorial office who came up short against former Gov. Ted Strickland (D) in 2006.
 
The group is — despite its name — a grassroots network unaffiliated with the Republican Party that counts on Tea Party voters for its membership.
 
Trump is currently leading the race for the GOP presidential nomination across national polls.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/252250-trump-im-winning-because-americans-are-tired-of-being-the


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August 29, 2015, 05:06:41 PM
Bernie Sanders is the one.

He's talking about the banks.

No one else will do that. I hope they don't kill him or set him up. This is going to be a deal where child porn is found on his computer, or someone makes an accusation, etc. Or they will make it grisly, so no other future politician dreams bring them up again. Burn him alive or some other crazy and horrific shit. Or maybe just the old "heart attack". No question they will make an example of him. You don't get to say the things he is saying without them doing something about it.

I hope I'm wrong, and we will see soon enough.


So that leaves Trump.

What completely blows my mind is the power displayed when you watch the two party system at work.

So many people, and I mean the fucking majority, fall for this shit. Liberal and conservative.

People:

It's a horse race, but both of you are still betting on a horse.

You're picking a red car or a blue car, but you are both still picking a car.

Do you need more examples?

It's a goddamn scam people. You are picking which companies you are going to side with, but you are still picking the corporate vote. This is how it is people!!!!! Wtf smh


Trump doesn't have to pay people back. It's not a prerequisite to having the resources necessary to run a campaign, like it is for the rest of the candidates.

At least Trump is different. Do you really want more of the same??


Trump makes sense. He is making his policies known and isn't even worried about if they sound politically correct. He believes in his ideas and is promoting them.

Granted Trumps empire is smaller than the federal government, but he has run a successful empire and seems like the kind of guy the US needs in its corner right about now.


Try to read my post #202 or better yet read the article
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/13/why-i-support-donald-trumps-campaign-and-its-probably-not-what-you-think/


It is a long read, and it is not about bernie. Let us know what you think.


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August 29, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
Bernie Sanders is the one.

He's talking about the banks.

No one else will do that. I hope they don't kill him or set him up. This is going to be a deal where child porn is found on his computer, or someone makes an accusation, etc. Or they will make it grisly, so no other future politician dreams bring them up again. Burn him alive or some other crazy and horrific shit. Or maybe just the old "heart attack". No question they will make an example of him. You don't get to say the things he is saying without them doing something about it.

I hope I'm wrong, and we will see soon enough.


So that leaves Trump.

What completely blows my mind is the power displayed when you watch the two party system at work.

So many people, and I mean the fucking majority, fall for this shit. Liberal and conservative.

People:

It's a horse race, but both of you are still betting on a horse.

You're picking a red car or a blue car, but you are both still picking a car.

Do you need more examples?

It's a goddamn scam people. You are picking which companies you are going to side with, but you are still picking the corporate vote. This is how it is people!!!!! Wtf smh


Trump doesn't have to pay people back. It's not a prerequisite to having the resources necessary to run a campaign, like it is for the rest of the candidates.

At least Trump is different. Do you really want more of the same??


Trump makes sense. He is making his policies known and isn't even worried about if they sound politically correct. He believes in his ideas and is promoting them.

Granted Trumps empire is smaller than the federal government, but he has run a successful empire and seems like the kind of guy the US needs in its corner right about now.
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August 29, 2015, 12:56:31 PM



Donald Trump Takes Aim at Huma Abedin and 'Perv' Anthony Weiner


Shortly after the event, Trump defended his attacks on Abedin and Weiner, telling NBC News over the phone that Abedin should not have had access to confidential information.

"I don't think she should have been part of the people receiving it, whether it's confidential, why would she be involved?" he said, but noted, "I know her husband, I know him very well."

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill tweeted a response to Trump's onslaught, saying Trump "crossed the line this evening. Disgraceful."

Let's cross some more of those lines.
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August 29, 2015, 10:50:55 AM
Speaking about Huma Abedin, she seems to be a shady character to me. And regarding her relationship with Anthony Weiner, the less talked about the better. It is an open secret that Huma Abedin is a lesbian and her true husband is Hillary Clinton (the Abedin - Clinton relationship started after the latter ended her relationship with Janet Reno). And Anthony Weiner looks like a gay.
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August 29, 2015, 10:33:09 AM



Donald Trump Takes Aim at Huma Abedin and 'Perv' Anthony Weiner


Shortly after the event, Trump defended his attacks on Abedin and Weiner, telling NBC News over the phone that Abedin should not have had access to confidential information.

"I don't think she should have been part of the people receiving it, whether it's confidential, why would she be involved?" he said, but noted, "I know her husband, I know him very well."

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill tweeted a response to Trump's onslaught, saying Trump "crossed the line this evening. Disgraceful."




http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-takes-aim-huma-abedin-perv-anthony-weiner-n418116?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=c265eaee0df9ecf8638ec10a5c39c090


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Who crossed the line in pervland again?





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August 29, 2015, 09:51:16 AM
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August 29, 2015, 03:40:38 AM
So according to the latest opinion polls, Trump's major opponent is Ben Carson? That will make things even more easier for him. Unlike the people such as Jeb Bush and Rubio, Carson doesn't enjoy 100% support from the establishment lobby. This will prevent the anti-Trump Republicans uniting and rallying behind Ben Carson.
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August 29, 2015, 12:54:21 AM



MEGYN KELLY: THE FIRST CASUALTY IN DONALD TRUMP’S ‘ASYMMETRIC’ WAR ON FOX NEWS






2016 GOP frontrunner and billionaire Donald Trump already won his war with the Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly.

She’s exposed as having a point of view, rather than being a purely impartial arbiter of news. Now he’s just having fun as a larger war between him and the network’s powers-that-be looms.

In exposing Kelly, he’s employed at least parts of an unwritten playbook for political warfare his former, longtime aide–legendary GOP trickster Roger Stone–has laid out mostly informally over the years called “Stone’s Rules.” Stone hasn’t actually published the “Rules” anywhere, though some appear littered throughout his Twitter account and in a profile that the Weekly Standard’s Matt Labash wrote of him in 2007.

Stone, ironically, is a Fox News Contributor. He left the Trump campaign operation a few weeks ago—Trump says he fired Stone, while Stone says he quit—but he’s become one of the Donald’s biggest supporters on the outside in no time at all appearing on virtually every television show he can to tout Trump’s candidacy. “Never miss the opportunity to have sex or be on television, as Gore Vidal said,” Stone told the New York Times for a fashion profile on him this week.

Stone has worked in Republican politics for decades and helped Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan win elections. There’s no indication he’s involved in this Trump play against Kelly in any way, shape or form—he says he quit the Trump campaign because Trump insisted on this fight with Kelly—but his decades of influence on Trump, and his style, are clearly on display here.

“Hit it from every angle. Open multiple fronts on your enemy. He must be confused, and feel besieged on every side,” probably the most important of “Stone’s Rules” reads, according to the Labash profile. That’s exactly what Trump has done to Kelly, and as she’s been “confused” amid a barrage of attacks, she’s made the critical mistake Trump had been hoping she’d make: she showed her hand, abandoning impartiality with people other than him.

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...Trump has taken one thing away from her that she and her bosses at Fox can never replace, no matter how much time or money they spend on it: the appearance of impartiality.

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After some more back-and-forth where Kelly noted that Trump is suing Univision for canceling his Miss Universe broadcast contract and that an executive from Univision compared Trump to Charleston, SC murderer Dylann Storm Roof, Kelly asked Ramos another question she could have posed to herself. “Do you understand Trump’s side of it, which is: ‘This is not the outlet I want to take these questions from because their mind is made up about me?’” Kelly asked.

The whole episode has left Kelly exposed—she probably didn’t intend to expose herself like this—which means Trump has inadvertently won the war with her. What remains on the horizon, however, is a bigger war that’s brewing between Fox News—and the network’s backers, including Rupert Murdoch and his sons—and Trump.

Murdoch’s ideology is one directly opposed to what Trump believes, especially when it comes to the issues of trade and immigration. As the 2016 election cycle progresses, with one of its best players in Kelly on intellectual battlefield sidelines—she’ll keep hosting her program and getting high ratings, but she’s forever lost the claim to impartiality thanks to Trump—the Fox News Channel is likely going to escalate, on behalf of the Murdochs’ worldview on immigration and trade, the war with Trump. It’s worth noting, though, that Ailes and Trump are friends and mutual admirers so this seemingly inevitable war may yet be averted. There are also many other personalities at Fox friendly with Trump, so it may not escalate further. What happens next remains to be seen.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/28/megyn-kelly-the-first-casualty-in-donald-trumps-asymmetric-war-on-fox-news/


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August 29, 2015, 12:14:20 AM



‘Bing Bing Bing': Trump Lets Loose on ‘Perv,’ ‘Sleazebag’ Anthony Weiner




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The press and everyone need to never forget anthony...





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August 28, 2015, 09:18:09 PM



Sarah Palin Defends Donald Trump for 'Telling the Truth'


Former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin took some time to chat with "Extra's" Renee Bargh on the set of her guest-hosting gig, "On Point with Sarah Palin.” During the interview, Sarah defended Republican candidate Donald Trump, who is making headlines daily. Sarah also chatted about Hillary Clinton.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXgmrr8KAw8


WTH, LAMESTREAM MEDIA! STAY OUT OF MY BIBLE

WTH? Lamestream media asks GOP personal, spiritual “gotchas” that they’d NEVER ask Hillary, or they’d feed the question to her and/or liberal cohorts before they asked it on-air (we know how these things work, lapdog media… the public’s on to you), so good on Trump for screwing with the reporter. By the way, even with my reading scripture everyday I wouldn’t want to answer the guy’s question either… it’s none of his business; it IS personal; what the heck does it have to do with serving as commander-in-chief; and these reporters trying to trip up conservatives can go pound sand until they ask the same things of their favored liberal pals. I’ll cover this in my interview with Donald Trump and other candidates tonight on the One America News Network show “On Point.” The more the media does this, the more they empower America to reject them and their bias as voters run to the anti-status quo candidates daring to Go Rogue.


https://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/posts/10153596970878588


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August 28, 2015, 09:10:11 PM
Trump Hates Lobbyists—Except the Ones Running His Super PAC

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On July 1, a pro-Trump super PAC, Make America Great Again PAC, filed with the FEC.

The organization listed on its paperwork a New York City address, which Bloomberg traced to a Midtown FedEx store. The address the PAC provided for supporters to mail their checks to was a Midtown UPS store. Calls to the group’s listed phone number went unanswered, as did an email. The treasurer who submitted the form to the FEC signed it “Les Caldwell,” short for Leslie, and Leslie refused to comment on the record to Politico, while just about every Leslie Caldwell listed in New York chose not to answer or return any of my calls.

Curiously, a closer look at the group’s filing reveals a return address not in New York City but in Colorado.

That address belongs to Jon Anderson, a lobbyist whose “practice is focused on corporate compliance and representing clients before federal, state and local government,” according to the website of his firm, Holland & Hart.

A consultant for the PAC, Mike Ciletti, also from Colorado, is also a lobbyist. He has his own group, New West Public Affairs, which he co-founded in 2009, according to his LinkedIn profile. His clients include the Community Financial Services Association, the trade association for payday lenders, which are often accused of predatory lending.

Anderson didn’t return a call, and Ciletti responded to interview requests with frustration that his activity with the PAC had placed him in the spotlight. “Personally I am waiting to see what other email addresses, phone numbers you can find to try to reach me at. Hats off to you,” he said in an email. “I am not interested in going on the record at this point, perhaps in the future. The focus should be on the candidates.”
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/26/trump-hates-lobbyists-except-the-ones-running-his-super-pac.html
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August 28, 2015, 08:47:16 PM



Why I Support Donald Trump’s Campaign – And It’s Probably Not What You Think…



Begin with the end in mind – I’m not trying to convince anyone that Donald Trump is  running a campaign to actually win the GOP nomination.

Factually, I’m as uncertain and perhaps more skeptical as the next person. However, given that Trump has actually done things he normally wouldn’t do if this was a mere publicity stunt (ie. stock divestitures, removal of conflicts etc.), for the sake of intellectual argument, I’m going to assume, cautiously yet optimistically, he’s in it to win it.


So why support him?

Argument #1 – After all, he’s been a democrat, an independent, a Republican, and well, I have consistently despised Charlie Crist.

Counter Argument – Then again, what about Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, and Orin Hatch, and Lindsey Graham, and John McCain, and John Cornyn, and Thad Cochran and, well, you get the point…. What’s the difference between supporting those consistently Republican “Republicans” only to have them advocate for liberal/progressive policies.

Are the aforementioned better because they didn’t change party registration, yet act like Democrats?

Let me first explain something few fully comprehend – and fewer still, are willing accept.

People like us rail against the “establishment” because, despite the GOP claims to the contrary, they never actually do anything to stop the liberal policy agenda. One only has to look at President Obama’s veto record (four in 6.5 years) to accept that only legislation Obama agrees with is reaching his desk.

We gave the GOP the House (2010, 2012, 2014) and the Senate (2014) and yet we never have received a single benefit to the election victories We The People provided.

Why is that?

Here’s where a paradigm shift is needed for many of the political followers who don’t have a deep and specialized knowledge of the Republican agenda.

Citizens United was touted by conservatives as a victory. Why?

Was it because Citizens United was genuinely a win for freedom of speech, or was it actually and substantively because Obama declared it a loss?

Again, paradigm shift time – Citizens United was as much a defeat for “our side” as it was for “their side”.

We didn’t need Citizens United to win a massive electoral victory in 2010, Obama’s “Shellacking”; we just showed up to the polls and voted against his policies.

However, the Republican professional political class did need Citizens United to try and stop our efforts in 2012 and again in 2014. I’ll explain.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, led by President Tom Donohue, is the power brokerage for the GOP “establishment”. In short, whatever the CoC wants, their lobbyists on K-Street will insure the CoC gets through campaign contributions to influence the GOP as a Party.

The U.S. CoC is the operational arm of Wall Street, not, I repeat, NOT, Main Street.

The Citizens United  decision is what allowed Wall Street to fund the U.S. CoC, which in turn funded the GOP establishment machine.  If politics is a blood sport, Citizens United just authorized the unlimited use of STERIODS for the paid gladiators.

How does Wall Street differ from Main Street?

The answer to that question can most easily be reflected by explaining why the Republican Establishment, the professional political class, supports ObamaCare, Common Core and Comprehensive Immigration Reform to include Amnesty.

Wall Street and ObamaCare:

Wall Street, through the CoC, advocate for policies that benefit their interests; their financial interests. The cost of worker healthcare is a liability embedded in the cost of the products sold. If the United Auto Workers healthcare plan costs $10,000 per person, that cost is embedded in the price to manufacture a car.

Unlike their global competitors U.S. businesses (manufacturers) have these costs as part of their product cost, the cost of goods sold.

Globally, other nations have various forms of “government provided” healthcare, and so their products don’t carry the cost directly.   In an effort to level the manufacturing playing field, the U.S. CoC, Wall Street, are firm advocates of removing the cost of healthcare from U.S. goods.

Wall Street, supports ObamaCare for an expanded profit margin on financially capitalized businesses – ie. higher profits = higher stock valuations.

Simultaneously, unions support ObamaCare (see SEIU, AFL-CIO et al, visits to White House during ObamaCare construct) because ObamaCare removes the healthcare liability from the union retirees benefits. ie. increased solvency.

The globalists, and progressive Democrats support ObamaCare because it aids their constituency, unions; and also expands the influence of government control which is based on a collective outlook and elimination of the individual freedom.

Wall Street therefore supports both Republicans and Democrats when it comes to the retention of ObamaCare.

That’s why you don’t see Republican Majorities trying to remove it – it’s all hat and no cattle; a ruse, a fraud. Only the promises of actual removal being used to get Pavlov’s sheeple masses to pull levers with hopes/promises of getting repeal pellets.

The GOP has NO INTENTION of removing ObamaCare.

Wall Street and Immigration:

Like ObamaCare, Wall Street wants comprehensive immigration reform to include amnesty. Again, focused almost entirely on the reduction of the labor costs for goods and services. These are financial balance sheet determinations, not considerations of what’s best for the middle class U.S. worker.

Democrats and Republicans both want immigration reform to include amnesty. Democrats for a voting block and more collectivist ideological approaches, Republicans to do the bidding of their financial interests – The CoC, Tom Donohue, etc.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are willing to build a border wall to stop illegal immigration.

Wall Street and Common Core Education:

Like ObamaCare and Immigration, Wall Street wants the federalization of education. In part because it generates a consistently similar pool of eligible, who are increasingly Latino, workers; and in part because education is BIG BUSINESS.

Just look at your property taxes to see how much of your local property tax dollars are apportioned to public School and Education funding.

Democrats and Republicans both support Common Core. Democrats because it expands the financial base of local schools to allow greater room for increased labor union (teacher, NEA) wages; and because Common Core affords, yet again, an ideological watering down of individualism in favor of collectivism. Republicans support Common Core because it’s big business, and the CoC funds their advocacy.

Both Democrats and Republicans support Common Core.

In 2013 CoC President Tom Donohue went on record saying his 2014/2015 legislative priorities were:

1 – Full implementation of ObamaCare without repeal.
2 – Comprehensive Immigration Reform to include Amnesty.
3 – Full implementation of Common Core educational standards.

Wall Street, through K-Street, through the CoC, fund these legislative priorities.

The Citizens United decision allowed Wall Street, through K-Street, through the CoC to fund established legislative representatives to continue these legislative priorities.

Conversely, Citizens United, through Wall Street, through K-Street, through the CoC, fund attacks against any political opponent who would unseat their selected and established candidate. You only need to look at 2014’s Virginia (Ken Cuccinelli), or Mississippi (Chris McDaniels), or Kentucky (Matt Bevin) to see how strongly they will work to insure victory.

So now that you know why both Republicans and Democrats support ObamaCare, Amnesty and Common Core; what exactly is the difference between a Jeb Bush and a Hillary Clinton?

Some social issues, maybe – gay marriage, legalized pot? A SCOTUS appointment? Do you really think that Bush or Clinton would select a totally divergent SCOTUS, when their intents and purposes are essentially the same?

Wall Street needs Bush V Clinton in 2016 because they are two different sides of the same professional political coin. Wall Street doesn’t care which one, because Wall Street wins with either candidate.

How does Wall Street insure their desired candidate outcome?

Quite simple. WE’VE REPEATEDLY OUTLINED IT HERE – It’s a simple five state strategy, almost identical to their previously selected candidate, Mitt Romney, in 2012.

What makes Donald Trump different?

This is where you accept the value of Donald Trump; because despite opinion to the contrary, Donald Trump is Main Street – not Wall Street.

Trump’s wealth is tied directly to the success of Main Street. Trump builds things, actual things – which he then owns. Trump does not make money from capitalization of financials – Trump makes money from traditional business models, owning and operating stuff.

Both Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are Wall Street candidates.


IDEOLOGICAL EXAMPLE: The IRS weaponization of government against people, as within the Lois Lerner IRS scandal, is an issue which Trump can breech. Both Democrats and Republicans benefit from the destruction of the Tea Party; neither Bush not Clinton bear any interest in exposing the IRS scandal itself.

When you accept that without Donald Trump you get Bush V Clinton, you begin to understand why it’s beneficial to support Donald Trump.

Quite simply, there’s nothing to lose.


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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/13/why-i-support-donald-trumps-campaign-and-its-probably-not-what-you-think/


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August 28, 2015, 08:03:56 PM



Donald Trump did it again!

Trump held a fundraiser tonight in Norton, Massachusetts with hundreds of supporters and veterans. CNN asked the first question and asked about the few protesters outside. Trump let the CNN reporter have it!


“Well, I don’t see a lot of protesters. I see thousands of people. And there are a few protesters. And, I figured you’d ask that question because you know, that’s the way it is. CNN is terrible. CNN. Are you with CNN. Are you with CNN. You people do not cover us accurately. So they have a few protesters outside. And thousands of people. And the first question from CNN is about protesters. Yes."









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August 28, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Ted Cruz inviting Donald Trump to speak on the anti-Iran platform is interesting. Cruz does not have much of a chance of winning the Republican primary. So it will be better for him to support someone who is having a better chance of doing that, such as Donald Trump or Rand Paul. According to the latest polls from Quinnipiac, Cruz's support has fallen to just 7%.
No, the Republican back room has already flagged Rand Paul as one to minimize coverage on and move out the side door.  Both Paul and Cruz have a loyal following, but are not going to be mainstreamed.  Trump is mainstreaming himself.

I suppose if either Paul or Cruz had the money to do what Trump is doing, they still would not gather the support he is gathering.

But that's what, Showmanship?
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August 28, 2015, 03:25:59 PM
Ted Cruz inviting Donald Trump to speak on the anti-Iran platform is interesting. Cruz does not have much of a chance of winning the Republican primary. So it will be better for him to support someone who is having a better chance of doing that, such as Donald Trump or Rand Paul. According to the latest polls from Quinnipiac, Cruz's support has fallen to just 7%.
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August 28, 2015, 02:37:22 PM





America Is So in Play

Donald Trump’s staying power in the polls reflects a change in the electorate only now coming into focus.


So, more thoughts on Donald Trump’s candidacy, because I can’t stop being fascinated.

You know the latest numbers. Quinnipiac University’s poll this week has Mr. Trump at a hefty 28% nationally, up from 20% in July. Public Policy Polling has Mr. Trump leading all Republicans in New Hampshire with 35%. A Monmouth University poll has him at 30% in South Carolina, followed 15 points later by Ben Carson.

Here are some things I think are happening.

One is the deepening estrangement between the elites and the non-elites in America. This is the area in which Trumpism flourishes. We’ll talk about that deeper in.

Second, Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means.

Third, the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the Republican universe—its establishment, respected voices in conservative media, sober-minded state party officials—have little to no impact on Mr. Trump’s rise. Some say voices of authority should stand up to oppose him, which will lower his standing. But Republican powers don’t have that kind of juice anymore. Mr. Trump’s supporters aren’t just bucking a party, they’re bucking everything around, within and connected to it.

Since Mr. Trump announced I’ve worked or traveled in, among other places, Southern California, Connecticut, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey and New York’s Long Island. In all places I just talked to people. My biggest sense is that political professionals are going to have to rethink “the base,” reimagine it when they see it in their minds.

I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday to say she’d just registered Republican. I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”

Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

“He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull----.”

He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.”

OK. Old style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Hispanic America. New style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Jorge Ramos. Old style: If I’ve lost Walter Cronkite, I’ve lost middle America. New style: How touching that an American president once thought if you lost a newsman you’d lost a country.

It is noted that a poll this week said Hispanics are very much not for Donald Trump. Gallup had 65% with an unfavorable view of him, and only 14% favorable. Mr. Trump and Mr. Ramos actually got into that, when Mr. Ramos finally questioned him after being allowed back into the news conference. Mr. Trump countered with a recent Nevada poll that has him with a state lead of 28%—and he scored even higher with Nevada’s Hispanics, who gave him 31% support.

I will throw in here that almost wherever I’ve been this summer, I kept meeting immigrants who are or have grown conservative—more men than women, but women too.

America is so in play.

And: “the base” isn’t the limited, clichéd thing it once was, it’s becoming a big, broad jumble that few understand.

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On the subject of elites, I spoke to Scott Miller, co-founder of the Sawyer Miller political-consulting firm, who is now a corporate consultant. He worked on the Ross Perot campaign in 1992 and knows something about outside challenges. He views the key political fact of our time as this: “Over 80% of the American people, across the board, believe an elite group of political incumbents, plus big business, big media, big banks, big unions and big special interests—the whole Washington political class—have rigged the system for the wealthy and connected.” It is “a remarkable moment,” he said. More than half of the American people believe “something has changed, our democracy is not like it used to be, people feel they no longer have a voice.”

Mr. Miller added: “People who work for a living are thinking this thing is broken, and that economic inequality is the result of the elite rigging the system for themselves. We’re seeing something big.”

Support for Mr. Trump is not, he said, limited to the GOP base: “The molecules are in motion.” I asked what he meant. He said bars of support are not solid, things are in motion as molecules are “before combustion, or before a branch breaks.”


I end with this. An odd thing, in my observation, is that deep down the elite themselves also think the game is rigged. They don’t disagree, and they don’t like what they see—corruption, shallowness and selfishness in the systems all around them. Their odd anguish is that they have no faith the American people can—or will—do anything to turn it around. They see the American voter as distracted, poorly educated, subject to emotional and personality-driven political adventures. They sometimes refer to “Jaywalking,” the old Jay Leno “Tonight Show” staple in which he walked outside the studio and asked the man on the street about history. What caused the American Civil War? Um, Hitler? When did it take place, roughly? Uh, 1958?

Both sides, the elites and the non-elites, sense that things are stuck.

The people hate the elites, which is not new, and very American. The elites have no faith in the people, which, actually, is new. Everything is stasis. Then Donald Trump comes, like a rock thrown through a showroom window, and the molecules start to move.


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