Topic: UPDATE - page 2. (Read 10537 times)

nicely done to promote info. hope this bco will make some good results. good luck sir,.

How much total coin supply?

yes thanks sebastian he is a very careful escrow and he does it for free 

Thanks for the nice voices.

Regarding escrowing scam ico's in the past, I do escrowing ico's even if I wonder if they will be successfull or are in doubt about it otherwise. Reason is... I can provide some safet to potential investors by holding coins 7 days after wallets and coins are spread. Which gives the community enough time to check out a dev, the code, potential problems and such. Which would, in that case, result to me refunding every investor when the release of the coins was stopped through problems coming up.

Believe me... this is no fun, it is time intensive, refunding especially but ico's too. More than any other escrow cases. I still do it because there are many potential victims involved so I can try to help stopping a scam.

Of course it can't be seen everytime upfront, still it helped in alot of cases where investors would have been screwed for sure otherwise.

Believe me, I could use the time more productive otherwhere. Though being escrow is mostly a way to help the community for me, since scams are the pain in bitcoinworld for me.

Only a headsup.

500 satoshi per Mrai? And you can't sell Mrais for project support. That's very generous of you

hello i have 1 question : So if im holder i need invest to futher my raiblock coins right? : ok if i not invest what will i do? my coins will die? only investor coins you accept not all holders right? or im wrong? thank you

you are a scamming piece of crap


INVEST AND LOSE YOUR MONEY

HOWS THAT REPORTING EVERYONE WHO ASKS a question doing you?

wow what a joke this is, a BAD ONE TOOO

These are my main questions. Why do you need the equivalent of 30 thousand dollars just to fork RaiBlocks and set up some nodes before staging an ICO and is there any other publicly available work from the lead developer?

I don't care about Mrai and "booms". I'm a potential investor asking you some questions. If all you can do is dismiss them as FUD then that tells me all I need to know here.

It's hard to take you seriously when most of your posting history seems to be you trying to manipulate people into dumping/selling you their RaiBlocks

 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kaselit-587844

And I took a look at your lead developer's github http://github.com/isghe and it's mainly forked repositories and a few pull request to fix typos. The only thing of substance is a sudoku solver. Is there any other publicly available work to show you guys are capable of doing anything more than just forking RaiBlocks?

I mean you're asking people to give you 50 BTC just to put together the ICO. It's that much hard work for the three of you?

no no, seb is the MOST TRUSTED escrow on this forum. (imo), but you have to understand that an escrow dosen't mean that the "dev" of the project wont fulfill the minimum requirements to get the funds released (requirements HE makes by the way which is lol in itself if you think about it), and then just stop doing anything once the funds are released.
in that situation (a few in last months), the escrow did NOTHING wrong, they fulfilled their part fully. but the DEV just said thank you bye after release.
do you see what im saying? haha so ya escrow dont mean shit lol

but tbh they wont get 50btc anywayz so it wont matter

it is really not that easy better yet the community also needs to help promoting this for the project
to prosper 50 btc is a huge amount advertising and good comments is needed to gain more support
and for this project to and move forward.

If you really hope for 50 BTC in 2 weeks, you need good marketing.

So you guys saying that escrowed funds is not as good as what we think? Well If not then Kaselit should picture of himself with a tag that saying his Kaselit. Is that enough as a proof that he's legit?

50 Btc is a good amount for a get away,any facebook accounts of all of this guy that can prove that they do exist anybody can create a randown name and it's very pricey for a randown name ..
And we have no prove that this coin is not going to be a pump and dump coin too

any actual links or just 3 random names and some sites?
maybe some linked-in accounts, or ANY way to prove they exist?

btw, escrow dont mean shit, seb has escrowed about 5 scams in the last 6 months ONLY because the dev lied, NOT because he is bad escrow.

i have my popcorn for this one thats for sure

Very reputed escrow.. i wish more and more people utilize this service..

Nice choice of escrow person you used, hope people will be more confident now.

By hiring Sebastian Ju you have given this project transparency he is the top escrow service here in this forum and very recommended I'm sure many investors will give this project a big boost..

I had a pretty long and detailed conversation with kaselit, about how to best escrow this BCO. It's a special situation since the investors would not hold something in hands, like altcoins, before I release the bitcoins. So it is all based on trust regarding the developers. We came up with a scheme described in the following paragraphs.

Who am I?

Iam SebastianJu, Iam escrow on Bitcointalk since years. Iam not connected to the issuer or the coin. Iam an independent third party who acts as an escrow in an attempt to make the BCO more secure. See my Servicethread for reviews: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

Safety from Escrow

If the BCO reaches less than 50BTC then I would refund everyone according to the refund rules mentioned below.

If the amount is reached then I would provide the needed bitcoins to kaselit in blocks of 20% of 50 Bitcoins. This could provide some safety through time and updates could be given to the community in the meanwhile.

Please note that the safety I can provide only reaches up to the point where I released the bitcoins to the issuer.

Escrow Address

The escrow address should not be used without contacting kaselit upfront:
Don't send to a quoted escrow address. ALWAYS only check out my post directly and send to that address! And please check regularly if the escrow link or address was changed in the first post of thread. Inform me fast by pm, post in the thread about it and give red trust if possible to warn others fast then. If you sent me a pm then I will know about it and can act by giving red trust to the issuer to prevent damage.

Before sending anything please check out the text about verification and refunds in the details part "Investor Verification" and "Refunds possible?".

Before payment I would suggest you take a look at http://www.cointape.com/ to check out if the network gets spammed again. Below the graph there is shown what amount of fee is needed to get instant confirmation. Checking that page could prevent that transactions are stuck for hours or days because they dont get a confirmation.


Message signed with an old address of mine, that I posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

You can check a signed message very easy. The fastest way is to visit http://wallet-2sx53n.sakurity.com/#verify.

Investor Verification

Kaselit will give you a ways how you can verify your investment. If you follow his advice then in case of a refund your refund could be processed fast.

Refunds possible?

Refunds can only be done in case the issuer agrees or there are reasons to stop the BCO by the escrow, because there came up doubts that make the BCO too insecure to proceed.

As long as you did not verify your investment transaction in some way I will see your investment as unverified. Otherwise it could mean a random person could claim an investment as his investment and steal it from a shareholder.

Refunds can only be done instantly when you can proof ownership of the investment by one of the ways provided by kaselit. See description about verification above.

If you can't proof the ownership of an investment and a refund needs to be done then you need to wait some weeks so that the risk of being scammed is lower for me and the (potential real) owner of that investment. You would want I protect your investment too when someone claims it was his investment and only can show the transaction id, right?

Good luck everyone with this BCO!