Topic: update: casascius.COM is GOOD but casascius.NET is EVIL / FRAUD / SCAM / 1% - page 2. (Read 5428 times)

I filled the form on SCAM PHISHING site (.net) with BOGUS info, and I got this BTC address where the phished BTC should go:

1GHRsryckBsSfKgv6zbun5egbxq8GCT8f1

According to blockexplorer, there is already 33.64 BTC received a few hours ago. So, it looks someone got phished already.

I agree, which is why I said I'd give him the benefit of the doubt in this instance.  In either case, he's innocent or the backlash will have likely taught a lesson.

It's not very hard to set up a server in another country, hide info and then claim rogue.

I am not saying this is the case, but I think a lot of people need to refresh themselves on what "spam" is (and not the meat).

Unsolicited, bulk email = Spam.

Dear mizerydearia,

This is obnoxious. ^_^
l3estest l2egardedsness,
Miz

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Yes, that IP is for the original spam message.  I never received anything but the spam.

Dear casascius.

Today I found in my email a spam coming from your website and IP-address, advertising for your website casascius.com. Sending such unsollicited email to people in my country is a crime. In addition, because of costs of spam for me, I also charge per spam, feel free to pay the bill by sending 100 bitcoin to: 1DESYhdFBUdQyTWBpLif6BQdr3FRcKBHWL

No, I think Inaba was still talking about the first, original spam message.

This is confusing. The spammer is warning about himself?

Maybe he's switched to troll mode now and is replicating the warning email so people flame about casascius spamming?

Oh, whatever. I just got two of the physical Bitcoins, they're awesome. I'm considering buying a bunch of them, so the fraudster site was really dangerous for me. So I appreciate the warning (even though I never received it per email).



Think about it this way: between an advantage of a fraudster or casascius, there is no doubt what should be put preference. These physical coins are a huge marketing boost for Bitcoin, it would suck if a scammer were to ruin that business.

Actually: wouldn't it be real easy to detect this mtgox-related spam? Just make a central place and have 5 people forward md5sums of all their emails. If they all receive that mail, it's most likely spam to that list, rigth?

Is there a system for this kind of thing?

Cool. Thanks for being reasonable. After reading your harsh language I didn't expect this. Kudos for still being able to think in an agitated state.

You would be wrong, then.  He may have no way of knowing how many people got a phishing email, but he also has no responsibility to protect people from making stupid mistakes.  What he DOES have a responsibility to do is be a good net citizen and NOT spam people.  In this, apparently, he failed.  Much less egregious than commercial spamming, but no less irresponsible.

Your attitude of "IF you're upset because you have to poke delete button on your email one extra time" is exactly the reason we have so much spam.  You are the type of person that makes spam possible.  You just ignore it instead of actively combating it.  You and that attitude towards spam contributes to the problem.  If no one took that attitude, we've had made much more significant inroads into migrating to a more secure email protocol... but instead, it's too much trouble for people like you, so you just "deal" with it.  Your apathy causes spam.

And as a point of fact, it's not "just pressing delete one more time," billions upon billions of spam is sent each day.  That is billions of "pressing deletes" and it is a large portion of bandwidth and a significant portion of storage space.  You clearly have never had to manage a large scale email system.  Let those of us who have to deal with the aggregate consequences of spam make the decisions as to what constitutes over-reacting.

Thanks for the warning! These days, I could use a browser addon that warns when hosts are in countries like Russia (as this one).

All this scamming has become a massive annoyance. This is one of the cases where we could have another organization funded with Bitcoin, Job: gather donations, select a scammer at random, trace, attack (report to police, DoS, hack, whatever). Post results. Just for the heck of it.

They never got me so far, still, if I ever happen to identify one of these people, they will not have a nice time with me.

Don't get me started on magicaltux and his inept security.  

I withdraw my previous statements in regards to casascius.com since .net is located in Russia and .com is in Utah.  I'm all for giving the benefit of the doubt in this instance.

You're still adressing the wrong person here. casascius.com is 50.73.45.250.

Oh come on, I think it's ok to warn people. Don't be so uptight. Complain to magicaltux about all spam

I think Casascius did the right thing.

He has no way of knowing how many people got the phishing email, and no other way of contacting people who might fall for the scam.

If you're upset because you have to poke the 'delete' button on your email one extra time... then I think you're overreacting.

And that's the scammer site...  the real one is casascius.com and 50.73.45.250

Wanna know something funny... The scammer used a Google Analytics code in his site, so maybe contacting Google to shut his account down and report him as a phishing site to his host and registrar can at least take the site down.

This is bullshit.  I received a blatant marketing email (and nothing else) from this site.  After examining the headers, it's clearly from his site and sent from him.  Not hacked, not fake, not phishing.  A pure, unadulterated spam email sent to the leaked MT Gox list.  

This guy is a spammer and should be painted as such.  No one should do business with him and he should be fair game for being ripped off left and right to pay for his spam.  I charge $1500 per spam piece for reading, so he owes me $1500... whatever else other people charge, that's what he owes if he wants to pay for my time of reading garbage and using my bandwidth and hard drive space to store the email on my servers.

Just a point of reference:

Mail was sent from 62.76.188.230, casascius.net resolves to that IP address.