[Updated] Battleship Game at CoinXerox - Provably Fair AI - page 5.

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Quote from: XinXan on March 14, 2015, 02:58:50 PM

As far as i know there is already a perfect strategy to play the original battle ships, it wouldnt be hard for someone to make a bot to play this one 100% efficiently

I think mathematically perfect strategy is not a problem for PvP Battleship. Certainly, there is a perfect strategy. But when you need to choose one square from N empty squares, mathematics is useless. And when you hit a ship, you don't need an advanced computation to search for rest of ship. Human reasoning is sufficient for that. I think, computer advantage is unlikely in the Battleship game.

EDIT: If anybody know about some mathematical analysis of Battleship game, post it here, please.

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I"ll have to check it out. See if its worth gambling on.

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As far as i know there is already a perfect strategy to play the original battle ships, it wouldnt be hard for someone to make a bot to play this one 100% efficiently

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Quote from: Joca97 on March 14, 2015, 02:05:04 PM

Quote from: superSTAR777 on March 14, 2015, 01:59:25 PM

i played there but the game takes too long with so many hits , try to make smaller maybe ?

even if it is smaller,the odds stink
also you cant leave during the battle...or you will lose all btc

Thats why i suggested pvp, it would be 0% house edge and the payout could be way better

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Quote from: superSTAR777 on March 14, 2015, 01:59:25 PM

i played there but the game takes too long with so many hits , try to make smaller maybe ?

even if it is smaller,the odds stink
also you cant leave during the battle...or you will lose all btc

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i played there but the game takes too long with so many hits , try to make smaller maybe ?

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Quote from: Bardman on March 14, 2015, 10:23:09 AM

Quote from: baumi on March 14, 2015, 09:52:40 AM

Quote from: ndnh on March 14, 2015, 08:11:49 AM

Quote from: HostFat on March 14, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: GannickusX on March 14, 2015, 07:19:53 AM

But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll wait that you make it PvP

Yeah, PvP would be great Cheesy

There is already a few, but they are not getting enough attention and no players in a PvP game, means.. Coinxerox got a great interface and enoguh players to make it a success.

My opinion is the same. PvP mode would be great. Unfortunately, as you already wrote, for PvP games really high traffic is needed. For fluent playing, a few players must be still registered in the lobby. That means many, many players per day. It's a hard question, how popular this game will be - this is the second day only.

Although, the game is currently not ready for PvP, during the development we remember that it could be in the future.

In case we found out there are enough players for PvP mode, I promise all of you we will make PvP Battleship.

There is no need for high traffic to make the PvP since you already have a vs Bot mode if there is not enough players to play PvP the player could just play vs the bot

Yes, it makes sense. Good suggestion.

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Quote from: baumi on March 14, 2015, 09:52:40 AM

Quote from: ndnh on March 14, 2015, 08:11:49 AM

Quote from: HostFat on March 14, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: GannickusX on March 14, 2015, 07:19:53 AM

But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll wait that you make it PvP

Yeah, PvP would be great Cheesy

There is already a few, but they are not getting enough attention and no players in a PvP game, means.. Coinxerox got a great interface and enoguh players to make it a success.

My opinion is the same. PvP mode would be great. Unfortunately, as you already wrote, for PvP games really high traffic is needed. For fluent playing, a few players must be still registered in the lobby. That means many, many players per day. It's a hard question, how popular this game will be - this is the second day only.

Although, the game is currently not ready for PvP, during the development we remember that it could be in the future.

In case we found out there are enough players for PvP mode, I promise all of you we will make PvP Battleship.

There is no need for high traffic to make the PvP since you already have a vs Bot mode if there is not enough players to play PvP the player could just play vs the bot

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Quote from: ndnh on March 14, 2015, 08:11:49 AM

Quote from: HostFat on March 14, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: GannickusX on March 14, 2015, 07:19:53 AM

But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll wait that you make it PvP

Yeah, PvP would be great Cheesy

There is already a few, but they are not getting enough attention and no players in a PvP game, means.. Coinxerox got a great interface and enoguh players to make it a success.

My opinion is the same. PvP mode would be great. Unfortunately, as you already wrote, for PvP games really high traffic is needed. For fluent playing, a few players must be still registered in the lobby. That means many, many players per day. It's a hard question, how popular this game will be - this is the second day only.

Although, the game is currently not ready for PvP, during the development we remember that it could be in the future.

In case we found out there are enough players for PvP mode, I promise all of you we will make PvP Battleship.

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Quote from: baumi on March 14, 2015, 09:25:12 AM

Quote from: Bardman on March 14, 2015, 09:12:17 AM

One thing that maybe should be implemented is that when you destroy all the big ships and you have to find the 1 tile small ships its really boring, maybe make an option to make it automatic and the game searches for you and that would speed up the process of fidning them since there is no strategy for the last 1 tile ships it wont matter

You mean a bot for random shooting at close of the game end, right? It sounds interesting, I make a note. Thanks.

Yes pretty much. It should shoot fast so that we dont waste time finding the last ships, sometimes i have 30-40 tiles left to search and it takes a good amount of time. Thanks for considering it

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Quote from: Bardman on March 14, 2015, 09:12:17 AM

One thing that maybe should be implemented is that when you destroy all the big ships and you have to find the 1 tile small ships its really boring, maybe make an option to make it automatic and the game searches for you and that would speed up the process of fidning them since there is no strategy for the last 1 tile ships it wont matter

You mean a bot for random shooting at close of the game end, right? It sounds interesting, I make a note. Thanks.

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One thing that maybe should be implemented is that when you destroy all the big ships and you have to find the 1 tile small ships its really boring, maybe make an option to make it automatic and the game searches for you and that would speed up the process of fidning them since there is no strategy for the last 1 tile ships it wont matter

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i like your game its fun even if i lose and playing this is remind me for the real battleship game

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Quote from: HostFat on March 14, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: GannickusX on March 14, 2015, 07:19:53 AM

But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll wait that you make it PvP

Yeah, PvP would be great Cheesy

There is already a few, but they are not getting enough attention and no players in a PvP game, means.. Coinxerox got a great interface and enoguh players to make it a success.

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Quote from: GannickusX on March 14, 2015, 07:19:53 AM

But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll wait that you make it PvP

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But i really have a lot of fun with the game, you should make PvP that would be fantastic please do it!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: baumi on March 14, 2015, 03:38:10 AM

Quote from: ndnh on March 14, 2015, 02:58:43 AM

Would have liked it if the player was allowed to cash out any time during the game.

I went upto 120 mBTC (a few days ago) but went down to 20 after I was forced to play. Undecided

It is better to give the player the win amount when they resign than forfeiting everything.

It's a good implementation question - to allow cash out any time?

When it's allowed you should remember that probability of overcome dealer any time during the game is higher, so payout would be lower in that case. It's possible to apply similar rules as minesweeper sites use, but the game would remotely resemble Battleship...

I think the game is more exciting when you are in winning position and you still have to watch the dealer whether he will hit you or not. Or when you are losing and you still have a chance to catch up the dealer. That's a Battleship!

Anyway these game rules guarantee low volatility. When you lose, the lose is not a big one. It's statistically expected that your winnings should be between 31% and 2720% of your bet.

I still think, it will be better to allow the player to do so.

It takes a lot of time to complete one game and you either lose a small % or win a small % (most probably). Or can you make the game super fast?
All clicks register and play out at order really fast?

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Yes house edge too big, payout too low and each games takes a lot of time to finish. You gotta make the payout bigger

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you need to put better odds on your battleship game,because odds really stink
they are only good if you hit 3 or 4 in row at start and enemy dosent hit 1
please fix this!

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