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UpDown.BT

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Quote from: allforbtc on August 01, 2014, 06:57:37 AM

I bet and won but I still not get back my profit .
https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/04c10c6b51509df0b1b10425e7674e187e8ead6fc6278412ee0f58805b62ebaf
https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/bd7dabadead365e1ec66a69cbafcbf4e962c7059e9859ffb853fb1ad3028a189

Payouts are not instant anymore. Say thank you to the doublespend scammers.

allforbtc

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I bet and won but I still not get back my profit .
https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/04c10c6b51509df0b1b10425e7674e187e8ead6fc6278412ee0f58805b62ebaf
https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/bd7dabadead365e1ec66a69cbafcbf4e962c7059e9859ffb853fb1ad3028a189

rz20

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So in shorts words, they invent the data and they can manipulate it.

gg

Soappa

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Quote from: rz20 on July 30, 2014, 08:57:18 PM

Where do you get all the data?

This question has been asked again and again since the beginning, and OP never answered it...

Quote from: UpDown.BT on May 26, 2014, 03:33:28 AM

Quote from: Financisto on May 25, 2014, 10:21:01 PM

I'd like to suggest some improvements:
3rd) Showing the feed source for each type of bet may help proving that this game is (almost) provably fair;

3) We're not disclosing a source for the financial feeds and never plan to.

rz20

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Where do you get all the data?

allforbtc

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I didnt get payment . I bet on UP for GOLD for 0.09 BTC and I won, but there was not any payment.
https://blockchain.info/vi/tx/c74756b036aca11bf1de71bdb19241dddb581628feafe3062fb84e7bb47937c4

Shallow

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SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE

I am sure a lot of people knows this already, but UpDown.bt is a scam. It is also connected to the hacking of MtGox.

Be careful.

Shogen

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Quote from: Initscri on July 29, 2014, 01:26:28 AM

Quote from: Glork on July 29, 2014, 01:23:47 AM

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Seems like you won't be able to receive a refund. I hope you enjoyed donating to the site owner. :/

That's not what he says in the first post.

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What is your limits for a single bet, what will be happened with my bet if it's amount is beyond the limits?
— Min bet is 0.01, max bet is 0.3, bets that are not withtin this limits will be returned to senders with miners fee deducted

If he wants to run a long-term business instead of scamming a few people for <$5, it is in his interest to honour his word.

I believe the website is still in development and subject to glitches. I reported 2 of them here: transaction went into "Processing..." instead of closing after 60s (you can check the time logs, it is a bet I should have won) and bet below minimum is not being returned (you can check the blockchain) If the owner accepts to refund, he will prove beyond doubt that his website is not a scam.

Yeah. He said that refunds would be sent out soon (Quoting me).

He is flip-flopping on his word. He needs to start paying attention to this thread and responding. I'm surprised his website/company/business has lasted as long as it has with the ethics (or lack thereof) and business approach he has taken.

IMO, Updown hasn't done the best job in communicating with the users, as he has spent too little time on bitcointalk.
For example, he hasn't been online since July 18...

Initscri

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Quote from: Glork on July 29, 2014, 01:23:47 AM

Quote

Seems like you won't be able to receive a refund. I hope you enjoyed donating to the site owner. :/

That's not what he says in the first post.

Quote

What is your limits for a single bet, what will be happened with my bet if it's amount is beyond the limits?
— Min bet is 0.01, max bet is 0.3, bets that are not withtin this limits will be returned to senders with miners fee deducted

If he wants to run a long-term business instead of scamming a few people for <$5, it is in his interest to honour his word.

I believe the website is still in development and subject to glitches. I reported 2 of them here: transaction went into "Processing..." instead of closing after 60s (you can check the time logs, it is a bet I should have won) and bet below minimum is not being returned (you can check the blockchain) If the owner accepts to refund, he will prove beyond doubt that his website is not a scam.

Yeah. He said that refunds would be sent out soon (Quoting me).

He is flip-flopping on his word. He needs to start paying attention to this thread and responding. I'm surprised his website/company/business has lasted as long as it has with the ethics (or lack thereof) and business approach he has taken.

Glork

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Quote

Seems like you won't be able to receive a refund. I hope you enjoyed donating to the site owner. :/

That's not what he says in the first post.

Quote

What is your limits for a single bet, what will be happened with my bet if it's amount is beyond the limits?
— Min bet is 0.01, max bet is 0.3, bets that are not withtin this limits will be returned to senders with miners fee deducted

If he wants to run a long-term business instead of scamming a few people for <$5, it is in his interest to honour his word.

I believe the website is still in development and subject to glitches. I reported 2 of them here: transaction went into "Processing..." instead of closing after 60s (you can check the time logs, it is a bet I should have won) and bet below minimum is not being returned (you can check the blockchain) If the owner accepts to refund, he will prove beyond doubt that his website is not a scam. If not, I lost $10 and life goes on Tongue

Initscri

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Quote from: Glork on July 29, 2014, 01:02:23 AM

Hi,
I placed a bet on the white noise going down
https://blockchain.info/tx/c306437d8d227aedabebde6f322a146016bdb4a775d44cc748f4011d3abb86a3
I won it after 60 seconds, yet instead of giving me the money, my transaction went into "processing..." for another minute. Then it came out as "lost" with the price at that moment.
You can check the time logs. I believe this is a website glitch and I request a refund.

I also sent 0.0097 bitcoins by mistake (below limit)
https://blockchain.info/tx/f45f8f85ebcc84a9e96dfec44b2dfcbc6793d5b8fe4b57e30bfcf20726fa7880
and I have not received a refund for those.

Seems like you won't be able to receive a refund. I hope you enjoyed donating to the site owner. :/

Quote from: Initscri on July 18, 2014, 05:55:52 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 05:00:49 PM

Quote from: Initscri on July 18, 2014, 04:31:58 PM

Transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/7821d454e987a359c26b548141e6687ea66b94dc13795b1a73ccfc8aff29e0da

Still needing refund for the above payment (Under minimum).

Minimal bets are still a donation. We just plan to return transactions that are below minimum, but not implemented it yet.

Thanks, but your cause is one I do not wish to donate to.

I request my money back. I never specified I wish to donate. It is your companies requirement to specify and make sure people are understanding the minimum bet principle; otherwise you will be called scammers.

Website = Scam. He is paying people out in his signature campaign (some people), but completely ignoring other issues. His trust is going up because of signatures which is completely ignoring the shady nature of his site.

Glork

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Hi,
I placed a bet on the white noise going down
https://blockchain.info/tx/c306437d8d227aedabebde6f322a146016bdb4a775d44cc748f4011d3abb86a3
I won it after 60 seconds, yet instead of giving me the money, my transaction went into "processing..." for another minute. Then it came out as "lost" with the price at that moment.
You can check the time logs. I believe this is a website glitch and I request a refund.

I also sent 0.0097 bitcoins by mistake (below limit)
https://blockchain.info/tx/f45f8f85ebcc84a9e96dfec44b2dfcbc6793d5b8fe4b57e30bfcf20726fa7880
and I have not received a refund for those.

elianite

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The Cryptonumist

Quote from: aman598 on July 26, 2014, 03:44:16 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/1693HN1oMHt71eA9xqbMYNVdBD4xbLLJDa

need refund i waited for 2 hours my no bet happen i want refund i no more trust u

site is known to be dishonest if not outright scammer.

aman598

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https://blockchain.info/address/1693HN1oMHt71eA9xqbMYNVdBD4xbLLJDa

need refund i waited for 2 hours my no bet happen i want refund i no more trust u

Initscri

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Activity: 1582

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 05:00:49 PM

Quote from: Initscri on July 18, 2014, 04:31:58 PM

Transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/7821d454e987a359c26b548141e6687ea66b94dc13795b1a73ccfc8aff29e0da

Still needing refund for the above payment (Under minimum).

Minimal bets are still a donation. We just plan to return transactions that are below minimum, but not implemented it yet.

Thanks, but your cause is one I do not wish to donate to.

I request my money back. I never specified I wish to donate. It is your companies requirement to specify and make sure people are understanding the minimum bet principle; otherwise you will be called scammers.

UpDown.BT

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Activity: 168

Merit: 100

Quote from: Initscri on July 18, 2014, 04:31:58 PM

Transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/7821d454e987a359c26b548141e6687ea66b94dc13795b1a73ccfc8aff29e0da

Still needing refund for the above payment (Under minimum).

Minimal bets are still a donation. We just plan to return transactions that are below minimum, but not implemented it yet.

UpDown.BT

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Activity: 168

Merit: 100

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 03:55:51 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 03:55:03 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 03:50:08 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 01:15:34 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 01:06:01 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 12:32:41 PM

Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.

(1) My orders have been processed many times without this 1 confirmation requirement.
(2) This rule is not shown ahead of time and is entirely unreasonable. How can I possibly predict when the next block will come, let alone the price of gold at that time?

You get it wrong. We're waiting for confirmation only to provide payout and avoid doublespend. It doesn't affect time of bet realisation.

Except it does in my case. Please refer to the transaction date/time I provided.

Your bets was been processed in 60 seconds right after it was been made, as I can see in our backoffice, as an example let's take first transaction you provided above.

You bet on gold price fall from 1293.69000 at 2014-07-15 22:29:32 utc, 60 seconds after, at 22:30:32 gold price was 1293.70000, so this bet was wrong and you loose.

Initscri

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Activity: 1582

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Transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/7821d454e987a359c26b548141e6687ea66b94dc13795b1a73ccfc8aff29e0da

Still needing refund for the above payment (Under minimum).

theonewhowaskazu

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Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 03:55:03 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 03:50:08 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 01:15:34 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 01:06:01 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 12:32:41 PM

Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.

(1) My orders have been processed many times without this 1 confirmation requirement.
(2) This rule is not shown ahead of time and is entirely unreasonable. How can I possibly predict when the next block will come, let alone the price of gold at that time?

You get it wrong. We're waiting for confirmation only to provide payout and avoid doublespend. It doesn't affect time of bet realisation.

Except it does in my case. Please refer to the transaction date/time I provided.

UpDown.BT

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Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 03:50:08 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 03:46:54 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 01:15:34 PM

Quote from: UpDown.BT on July 18, 2014, 01:06:01 PM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 18, 2014, 12:32:41 PM

Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.

(1) My orders have been processed many times without this 1 confirmation requirement.
(2) This rule is not shown ahead of time and is entirely unreasonable. How can I possibly predict when the next block will come, let alone the price of gold at that time?

Before we was trying to work without transactions confirmation but as well as many other providers was been affected by doublespend fraud.

You get it wrong. We're waiting for confirmation only to provide payout and avoid doublespend. It doesn't affect the time of bet realisation.

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