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Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 30, 2017, 03:09:37 AM

Quote from: paladin_AOE on June 30, 2017, 01:12:16 AM

really profitable mining use mobile phone? lockept93

Only if you have a really cheap/old phone that is still recent enough to mine. It has gotten to the point where even buying a $20 Moto E isn't a sure bet. Expect the device to have a good chance of breaking down at 6 months. (That was my experience with ZTEs, with 3 out of 4 breaking down in about 6 months.)

At this point, I have three Moto Es, a ZTE Speed, and a Kindle Fire mining altcoins and making about $60/month (about $35/month if I don't count the altcoin that seems to be on the verge of collapse) at current difficulty levels. (Not telling which altcoins because if I did, a bunch of miners would pounce on it and skyrocket the difficulty...) In the scrap pile are a cheap Allwinner tablet, two ZTE Paragons, a ZTE Speed, and a Nook Color, all of which had paid for themselves except the Nook Color that wasn't originally bought for mining. The previously mentioned Kindle Fire also had a failure but I was able to repair it.

wooot interesting !
I have 3 smartphone asus second, how to start?
I mean any info pool or site to run app?

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If looking to mine a solid crypto it seems phones are not good. User posted 16 satoshi a year? You can get 3 to 4 times this amount with faucet claim. In other words, use your phone for solving captcha like MRAI or claim faucet. Kill time when you are stuck on a waiting room or the public bus.

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Quote from: paladin_AOE on June 30, 2017, 01:12:16 AM

really profitable mining use mobile phone? lockept93

Only if you have a really cheap/old phone that is still recent enough to mine. It has gotten to the point where even buying a $20 Moto E isn't a sure bet. Expect the device to have a good chance of breaking down at 6 months. (That was my experience with ZTEs, with 3 out of 4 breaking down in about 6 months.)

At this point, I have three Moto Es, a ZTE Speed, and a Kindle Fire mining altcoins and making about $60/month (about $35/month if I don't count the altcoin that seems to be on the verge of collapse) at current difficulty levels. (Not telling which altcoins because if I did, a bunch of miners would pounce on it and skyrocket the difficulty...) In the scrap pile are a cheap Allwinner tablet, two ZTE Paragons, a ZTE Speed, and a Nook Color, all of which had paid for themselves except the Nook Color that wasn't originally bought for mining. The previously mentioned Kindle Fire also had a failure but I was able to repair it.

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really profitable mining use mobile phone? lockept93

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Quote from: lockept93 on June 18, 2017, 08:36:01 PM

What about a mobile phone upgraded with a RaspBerry PI?

It's not possible to upgrade a phone with a Pi. If you mean using the Pi to supervise some mining phones, I have done something similar with an old phone mining Realbucks (when it was profitable, which sadly wasn't for long), but I used a Pogoplug instead of a Pi.

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Quote from: lockept93 on June 16, 2017, 04:42:55 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 14, 2017, 10:10:27 PM

Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 14, 2017, 03:03:32 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

if you want to run this road, i think is better to use something like RaspBerry PI3 or ODOID XU4
much more hashing power than cell phones and cheaper...
oh... it consume a few watts of course

Actually, the Moto E in question has 4x A53, basically the same as what's in the Pi 3. Walmart sold them for $20 each at one point, on par with the cheapest Pi 3s I was able to get, plus they include the PSUs and do not require SD cards to boot. Before that, I managed to get some ZTE Speeds for $10 each and ZTE Paragons for $5 each.

There's a good reason that back in the days, cheap smartphones were the device of choice for building Perk mining clusters.

What about a mobile phone upgraded with a RaspBerry PI?

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Its just not worth mining with mobile.
you will just waste your time.

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Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 14, 2017, 10:10:27 PM

Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 14, 2017, 03:03:32 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

if you want to run this road, i think is better to use something like RaspBerry PI3 or ODOID XU4
much more hashing power than cell phones and cheaper...
oh... it consume a few watts of course

Actually, the Moto E in question has 4x A53, basically the same as what's in the Pi 3. Walmart sold them for $20 each at one point, on par with the cheapest Pi 3s I was able to get, plus they include the PSUs and do not require SD cards to boot. Before that, I managed to get some ZTE Speeds for $10 each and ZTE Paragons for $5 each.

There's a good reason that back in the days, cheap smartphones were the device of choice for building Perk mining clusters.

where did you found motorola Moto E for just 20$ Shocked

the cheapest in EU was at 90euros
really more and more expensive!!!

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Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 14, 2017, 10:10:27 PM

Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 14, 2017, 03:03:32 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

if you want to run this road, i think is better to use something like RaspBerry PI3 or ODOID XU4
much more hashing power than cell phones and cheaper...
oh... it consume a few watts of course

Actually, the Moto E in question has 4x A53, basically the same as what's in the Pi 3. Walmart sold them for $20 each at one point, on par with the cheapest Pi 3s I was able to get, plus they include the PSUs and do not require SD cards to boot. Before that, I managed to get some ZTE Speeds for $10 each and ZTE Paragons for $5 each.

There's a good reason that back in the days, cheap smartphones were the device of choice for building Perk mining clusters.

What about a mobile phone upgraded with a RaspBerry PI?

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Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 14, 2017, 03:03:32 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

if you want to run this road, i think is better to use something like RaspBerry PI3 or ODOID XU4
much more hashing power than cell phones and cheaper...
oh... it consume a few watts of course

Actually, the Moto E in question has 4x A53, basically the same as what's in the Pi 3. Walmart sold them for $20 each at one point, on par with the cheapest Pi 3s I was able to get, plus they include the PSUs and do not require SD cards to boot. Before that, I managed to get some ZTE Speeds for $10 each and ZTE Paragons for $5 each.

There's a good reason that back in the days, cheap smartphones were the device of choice for building Perk mining clusters.

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Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 13, 2017, 11:28:40 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 10:51:27 AM

Mining Bitcoins with anything other than ASICs is a waste of time.
But there are altcoins that are ASIC and GPU resistant. Some of those are worth mining on an old laptop or cheap smartphone.

that's ture.
I'm mining verium and it seem ASIC GPU resistant.
Some GPU mining software programmers have tryied to develop a GPU Verium miner.
They reach just the same hashing power than CPU...
nothing more..
but i'm mining with i7... i doubt who same hashiong power will be reached with iPhone or S8.

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

if you want to run this road, i think is better to use something like RaspBerry PI3 or ODOID XU4
much more hashing power than cell phones and cheaper...
oh... it consume a few watts of course

NiHaoMike

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Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 13, 2017, 11:28:40 AM

Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 10:51:27 AM

Mining Bitcoins with anything other than ASICs is a waste of time.
But there are altcoins that are ASIC and GPU resistant. Some of those are worth mining on an old laptop or cheap smartphone.

that's ture.
I'm mining verium and it seem ASIC GPU resistant.
Some GPU mining software programmers have tryied to develop a GPU Verium miner.
They reach just the same hashing power than CPU...
nothing more..
but i'm mining with i7... i doubt who same hashiong power will be reached with iPhone or S8.

High end smartphones aren't good for mining because of their high cost, but cheap smartphones can be worth it. Back when Perk mining was profitable, some have tried using VMs to mine only to find out that the performance is very poor, that is if they could get it to run in the first place. (The Perk miners use ARM native code and won't run on x86. If you fake an ARM CPU, the net performance is very poor.)

Besides, for $80, you can get 4 Moto Es that would altogether use maybe 10W or so. Good luck trying to find a PC that costs less and uses less power for the same performance, especially after factoring in emulation overhead.

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Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 13, 2017, 10:51:27 AM

Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 13, 2017, 09:08:16 AM

Quote from: lockept93 on June 12, 2017, 02:41:36 AM

Is it possible to upgrade the Hashrate from a Smartphone? How could this work?

mining with laptop is just a waste of time...
mining with cellphone is just a (waste of time)^2... maybe (waste of time)^3
Grin

this is just my 2 cents

Mining Bitcoins with anything other than ASICs is a waste of time.
But there are altcoins that are ASIC and GPU resistant. Some of those are worth mining on an old laptop or cheap smartphone.

that's ture.
I'm mining verium and it seem ASIC GPU resistant.
Some GPU mining software programmers have tryied to develop a GPU Verium miner.
They reach just the same hashing power than CPU...
nothing more..
but i'm mining with i7... i doubt who same hashiong power will be reached with iPhone or S8.

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Quote from: italianMiner72 on June 13, 2017, 09:08:16 AM

Quote from: lockept93 on June 12, 2017, 02:41:36 AM

Is it possible to upgrade the Hashrate from a Smartphone? How could this work?

mining with laptop is just a waste of time...
mining with cellphone is just a (waste of time)^2... maybe (waste of time)^3
Grin

this is just my 2 cents

Mining Bitcoins with anything other than ASICs is a waste of time.
But there are altcoins that are ASIC and GPU resistant. Some of those are worth mining on an old laptop or cheap smartphone.

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Quote from: lockept93 on June 12, 2017, 02:41:36 AM

Is it possible to upgrade the Hashrate from a Smartphone? How could this work?

mining with laptop is just a waste of time...
mining with cellphone is just a (waste of time)^2... maybe (waste of time)^3
Grin

this is just my 2 cents

lockept93

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A friend of me and i were discuss about using free charge and internet with an mobile phone which is upgraded with an extern hardware for mining possible altcoins via a service like minergate.
This thread is just the question, is it possible to build a ming mobile phone - or better to say, a portable miner.

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Quote from: maydna on June 12, 2017, 10:59:00 AM

then i think you need high end smartphone for mining.

Actually the opposite, high end smartphones are *not* good for mining. A $250 Le Pro 3 would mine faster than a $20 Moto E, but nowhere near 12.5x as fast. You'd be hard pressed (especially nowadays) to break even mining with a high end smartphone before it breaks down. Even cheap smartphones are a gamble when it comes to mining nowadays, with break even periods being around the same 3-4 months you would get with Burstcoin mining on a hard drive.

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Quote from: lockept93 on June 12, 2017, 02:41:36 AM

Is it possible to upgrade the Hashrate from a Smartphone? How could this work?

i think its possible if we know what we need to do to upgrade the hashrate but i want to asked something, for what you want to upgrade your smartphone? is it for just mining? if you said yes its for mining only, then i will say that its not recommended and its better for you to buy some hardware to mining and you can get bigger hashrate then you only used your smartphone. smartphone is not designed for mining and although it is, then i think you need high end smartphone for mining.

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If it's a good, current phone, it's not worth the wear and tear. As for really cheap ($20 and less) smartphones purchased just for (altcoin) mining, I have had good success breaking even in less than a month but that was well over a year ago. (My personal best was $5 smartphones breaking even mining Perk in about a week! But that's almost 2 years ago...) Nowadays, it's not a particularly good bet unless you already have an old, otherwise unused phone or tablet just lying around.

My suggestion for energy efficient mining nowadays would be Burstcoin or Storj.

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Why in the world would you mine BTC using your phone. Its almost impossible for SOME ASIC to solve blocks, phones I think have no chance. Spend thousands of USD to mine ETH or ZEC with your graphic cards than phones. Kilowatt is just not free for everyone though.

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