Urgent: Business account with green trust has been stolen - page 2.

Lauda

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Quote from: CoinLearn on September 10, 2017, 03:20:59 AM

Yes, as soon as i saw that it was for sale, i've contacted the seller and bought it.

Quoted and tagged.

Quote from: CoinLearn on September 10, 2017, 03:20:59 AM

Nothing to protect, PM was sent from a newly registered account.
https://gyazo.com/99bb6c78400525dcfca878ce42bf9c98

Tagged the throwaway account (not that this will accomplish anything).

CoinLearn

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Quote from: Lauda on September 10, 2017, 01:06:03 AM

Quote from: CoinLearn on September 09, 2017, 07:48:35 PM

Is that a joke or something?

You've bought this account, correct?

Quote from: CoinLearn on September 09, 2017, 07:48:35 PM

To start with, this person sent me PM and blackmailed me.

Here is the proof:

https://gyazo.com/312eba8470a8164ea40412613d5f2829

That does not show who sent the message. Why are you trying to protect the sender?

Yes, as soon as i saw that it was for sale, i've contacted the seller and bought it.

Nothing to protect, PM was sent from a newly registered account.
https://gyazo.com/99bb6c78400525dcfca878ce42bf9c98

Lauda

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Quote from: CoinLearn on September 09, 2017, 07:48:35 PM

Is that a joke or something?

You've bought this account, correct?

Quote from: CoinLearn on September 09, 2017, 07:48:35 PM

To start with, this person sent me PM and blackmailed me.

Here is the proof:

https://gyazo.com/312eba8470a8164ea40412613d5f2829

That does not show who sent the message. Why are you trying to protect the sender?

KWH

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In Collateral I Trust.

CoinLearn

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Is that a joke or something?

To start with, this person sent me PM and blackmailed me.

Here is the proof:

https://gyazo.com/312eba8470a8164ea40412613d5f2829

I guess that's because he saw the account email address has been changed. Well, that is because the original email was hacked around a year ago.

Last month, i saw that account CoinLearn is for sale! Here is the link to that thread, but unfortunatelly, the seller deleted it:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056211

But, i didn't delete messages that we've exchanged with the seller in the telegram chat:

1. https://gyazo.com/838bf12ff969c1bf2495ec5d935b92a0

2. https://gyazo.com/95cbb03b070857800d3869b328637ab9

3. https://gyazo.com/61295ba9d457148c1b7900824f51346f

4. https://gyazo.com/926dcc39e977ab0205263e4c6c490bd3

5. https://gyazo.com/f778209c239e1df6b4005c01a9342770

Here is the link to that transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/d4143f9a98b2a9eeadddae9e62e8811b504042e194d406d8d0911541f1938e9c

And btw, here is how the website looked until november 30th, 2016, and how it looks today. The difference is obvious.

Before: https://web.archive.org/web/20161130005339/http://www.coinlearn.org:80/

Today: https://www.coinlearn.org/

Someone believes that just by placing Satoshi's white paper on the stolen website, makes him provable owner of that site.

ibinsad2

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Quote from: ajw7779 on September 09, 2017, 08:37:18 AM

My old legendary account was hacked and the admins never got it back to me from 2016. The best thing to do is get it tagged with negative trust then try to recover it. I had old addresses signed and everything admins just never responded was a shame.

Which are those accounts where are they signed?

Strange admins do anything, I understand you have to wait but if they do anything is strange.

qwk

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Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 08, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

It just isn't enough proof. True. But, please check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinlearnorg-newbie-learning-hourly-earning-435257. Does not it prove conclusively that https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coinlearn-228243 is owner of www.CoinLearn.org ?

No. It seems highly likely, even to the point of almost certain, but it isn't exactly proof Wink

But, most important, think about the potential of abuse here.
You could just happen to be a person who managed to "hack" the coinlearn.org web server, and now you're trying to gain access to his/her bitcointalk account as well.
Not saying that you are, but it's a possibility that should be taken into account.

That's why, among other reasons, the only acceptable proof of ownership can be a signed message with the key of an address that's certain to be associated with the account in question.

ajw7779

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My old legendary account was hacked and the admins never got it back to me from 2016. The best thing to do is get it tagged with negative trust then try to recover it. I had old addresses signed and everything admins just never responded was a shame.

dothebeats

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Cashback 15%

Best that we can do to help is verify and signed messages from any of your addresses here in the forum and tag it -ve so that it wouldn't be used in any form of scam etc. It took me a good week before I recovered my account. It's frustrating, and maybe it's time to give other mods the power to unlock/change email on hacked accounts so that the admins wouldn't be 'interrupted' on what they're doing.

Lauda

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Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 08, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Moreover, I have already provided signed message to theymos & cyrus, as mentioned in OP. After one week of sending PM to both, I'm now really disappointed.

Why are you refusing to post said signed message in this thread?

ibinsad2

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Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 08, 2017, 07:22:03 AM

Quote from: qwk on September 07, 2017, 02:57:37 PM

Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 06, 2017, 03:04:36 PM

To further prove my ownership, a message has been posted on CoinLearn.org - https://www.coinlearn.org/recover.html

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 11:46:58 AM

If you are using www.CoinLearn.org for free Bitcoins please post your current earning here...

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 06:45:25 AM

Welcome to Bitcoin World. You may learn and earn a few bitcoins @ www.coinlearn.org

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 05:47:02 AM

You can try out www.coinlearn.org to earn free BTC. The time you spend on site does not get wasted. You also learn various things about Bitcoin.

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 01:47:04 AM

You may also get introduced to some awesome Bitcoin facts @ www.CoinLearn.org

Hm, this "proves" more or less conclusively that the person now in control of (part of) www.coinlearn.org is you.
It does not, on the other hand, prove that you are the owner of the account that posted the links to www.coinlearn.org a while ago.
Don't get me wrong, it seems legit enough, but it just isn't enough proof.

It just isn't enough proof. True. But, please check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinlearnorg-newbie-learning-hourly-earning-435257. Does not it prove conclusively that https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coinlearn-228243 is owner of www.CoinLearn.org ?

Moreover, I have already provided signed message to theymos & cyrus, as mentioned in OP. After one week of sending PM to both, I'm now really disappointed.

I read you can wait lot more.. Is really bad for important accounts like your, I want to see their face if they steal their accounts in other forums.

Is 2fa or login verification by email very hard to implement?

CoinLearn_org

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Quote from: qwk on September 07, 2017, 02:57:37 PM

Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 06, 2017, 03:04:36 PM

To further prove my ownership, a message has been posted on CoinLearn.org - https://www.coinlearn.org/recover.html

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 11:46:58 AM

If you are using www.CoinLearn.org for free Bitcoins please post your current earning here...

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 06:45:25 AM

Welcome to Bitcoin World. You may learn and earn a few bitcoins @ www.coinlearn.org

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 05:47:02 AM

You can try out www.coinlearn.org to earn free BTC. The time you spend on site does not get wasted. You also learn various things about Bitcoin.

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 01:47:04 AM

You may also get introduced to some awesome Bitcoin facts @ www.CoinLearn.org

Hm, this "proves" more or less conclusively that the person now in control of (part of) www.coinlearn.org is you.
It does not, on the other hand, prove that you are the owner of the account that posted the links to www.coinlearn.org a while ago.
Don't get me wrong, it seems legit enough, but it just isn't enough proof.

It just isn't enough proof. True. But, please check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinlearnorg-newbie-learning-hourly-earning-435257. Does not it prove conclusively that https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coinlearn-228243 is owner of www.CoinLearn.org ?

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 27, 2014, 02:02:58 PM

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Moreover, I have already provided signed message to theymos & cyrus, as mentioned in OP. After one week of sending PM to both, I'm now really disappointed.

ibinsad2

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I hope this forum becomes more secure, many accounts like mine were stolen these days..

qwk

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Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 06, 2017, 03:04:36 PM

To further prove my ownership, a message has been posted on CoinLearn.org - https://www.coinlearn.org/recover.html

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 11:46:58 AM

If you are using www.CoinLearn.org for free Bitcoins please post your current earning here...

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 06:45:25 AM

Welcome to Bitcoin World. You may learn and earn a few bitcoins @ www.coinlearn.org

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 05:47:02 AM

You can try out www.coinlearn.org to earn free BTC. The time you spend on site does not get wasted. You also learn various things about Bitcoin.

Quote from: CoinLearn on January 25, 2014, 01:47:04 AM

You may also get introduced to some awesome Bitcoin facts @ www.CoinLearn.org

Hm, this "proves" more or less conclusively that the person now in control of (part of) www.coinlearn.org is you.
It does not, on the other hand, prove that you are the owner of the account that posted the links to www.coinlearn.org a while ago.
Don't get me wrong, it seems legit enough, but it just isn't enough proof.

Jimmy Wales

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Quote from: CoinLearn_org on September 06, 2017, 03:04:36 PM

To further prove my ownership, a message has been posted on CoinLearn.org - https://www.coinlearn.org/recover.html

^^This itself works as a confirmed proof of ownership.

Lauda

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Quote from: Joca97a on September 06, 2017, 06:07:00 PM

Quote from: Lauda on September 06, 2017, 04:05:10 PM

Post the signed message and the source of the address (link to where you have posted it) here. If it verifies, I will tag the account until it has been recovered.

I have signed in the message and sended to the 2 admins
should i post somewhere else as well or ?

Who are you? If you are not OP, then you should not be posting about your situation here nor post a signed message. Create your own thread.

Joca97a

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Quote from: Lauda on September 06, 2017, 04:05:10 PM

Post the signed message and the source of the address (link to where you have posted it) here. If it verifies, I will tag the account until it has been recovered.

I have signed in the message and sended to the 2 admins
should i post somewhere else as well or ?

Lauda

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Quote from: Albert Hamilton on September 06, 2017, 04:12:34 PM

Those, who are signing message for recovery, probably need their account to be recovered fast, instead of -ve trust.

The negative rating(s) can come much faster than the recovery of accounts. Being absent from your business account is one thing, but someone else using it for scamming et. al. is a bigger issue IMO.

Quote from: Albert Hamilton on September 06, 2017, 04:12:34 PM

If theymos & Cyrus are busy, why not more global mods are being given this responsibility?

There is a single active global moderator on this forum, and the staff hierarchy and many of this forum's policies are inherently broken. Why the owner is hesitant towards improving it is a question that we can only speculate on.

Albert Hamilton

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Quote from: Lauda on September 06, 2017, 04:05:10 PM

Post the signed message and the source of the address (link to where you have posted it) here. If it verifies, I will tag the account until it has been recovered.

Looking at Meta, it seems like multiple accounts have lately been stolen. Those, who are signing message for recovery, probably need their account to be recovered fast, instead of -ve trust. If theymos & Cyrus are busy, why not more global mods are being given this responsibility?

Lauda

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Post the signed message and the source of the address (link to where you have posted it) here. If it verifies, I will tag the account until it has been recovered.

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