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Topic: Urgent - unconfirmed transaction in chain.so, and doesn't exist in blockchain - page 2. (Read 1241 times)

newbie
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Wait, how did you calculated that his TX was 95KB? He never stated that anywhere? 0.07BTC fee for a transaction of 3.5BTC?

That's roughly 2%..

If he would have alot if inputs, then it would've made sense, but i don't see any reason for him to pay 500$ in fees.. ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/184299ddaa5f96a4c245e68ff9331e6e20be04f7d907b3dd2a6467ac9c9fc43b

This 4BTC tx only has a fee of     0.000904BTC, ~6$ and confirmed just fine.


Yes, it actually has 324 inputs... maybe that's why.



Yes. You should be able to import the private keys of block.io into electrum, and it should work just fine.


Ok, I will try to do that. But I prefer to get clear instructions if possible.

I think that's easier to ask around to get your transaction accelerated. Just do a bit of search on this forum, some people do this, some even for free / tip.
Or you can try yourself with ViaBTC https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ but you have to be in the first seconds after hour, else you won't get in. There are (too) many trying this every hour.

Impossible. It will give an error that the transaction doesn't exist. It is possible to see it only in chain.so.
legendary
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By the way, is it possible for Block.io to drop the transaction from their mempool manually? I mean, can I ask them to do it? Then I will be able to send another transaction from my Block.io wallet with a high priority so it will get confirmed fast.

I think that's easier to ask around to get your transaction accelerated. Just do a bit of search on this forum, some people do this, some even for free / tip.
Or you can try yourself with ViaBTC https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ but you have to be in the first seconds after hour, else you won't get in. There are (too) many trying this every hour.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
Well that's strange, as I used medium priority for sending that transaction, not low. And the fee is 0.00519072 BTC, which is not small.
Well, your transaction is over 95KB and for that size, you would be looking at the very least, a fee of 0.07BTC. Block.io probably don't have that great of an estimation.

So now I will have to wait another 3 days for it to drop again and I will have to be fast enough to send it again with high priority before it gets rebroadcasted again?
Yeah, the time may vary, if someone else rebroadcasts it continually. I'm not sure how Block.io works. If you'd like, you can search up on how to extract the private key(if possible) from Block.io. Using that, you can sign another transaction with a higher fee. Since the propagation isn't good, you're likely to get a confirmation really fast.
How many times more it can get rebroadcasted by itself? Hope this is not an infinite loop. Sad
It is an infinite loop, till it gets confirmed or the inputs gets spent in another confirmed transaction.

Wait, how did you calculated that his TX was 95KB? He never stated that anywhere? 0.07BTC fee for a transaction of 3.5BTC?

That's roughly 2%..

If he would have alot if inputs, then it would've made sense, but i don't see any reason for him to pay 500$ in fees.. ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/184299ddaa5f96a4c245e68ff9331e6e20be04f7d907b3dd2a6467ac9c9fc43b

This 4BTC tx only has a fee of     0.000904BTC, ~6$ and confirmed just fine.


Well that's strange, as I used medium priority for sending that transaction, not low. And the fee is 0.00519072 BTC, which is not small.
Well, your transaction is over 95KB and for that size, you would be looking at the very least, a fee of 0.07BTC. Block.io probably don't have that great of an estimation.

So now I will have to wait another 3 days for it to drop again and I will have to be fast enough to send it again with high priority before it gets rebroadcasted again?
Yeah, the time may vary, if someone else rebroadcasts it continually. I'm not sure how Block.io works. If you'd like, you can search up on how to extract the private key(if possible) from Block.io. Using that, you can sign another transaction with a higher fee. Since the propagation isn't good, you're likely to get a confirmation really fast.
How many times more it can get rebroadcasted by itself? Hope this is not an infinite loop. Sad
It is an infinite loop, till it gets confirmed or the inputs gets spent in another confirmed transaction.

Thank you very much for your explanation.

By the way, is it possible for Block.io to drop the transaction from their mempool manually? I mean, can I ask them to do it? Then I will be able to send another transaction from my Block.io wallet with a high priority so it will get confirmed fast.

And Block.io not long time ago added the Private Keys feature for wallet holders. So it will be possible for me to extract the Private Key from my Block.io wallet into my Electrum wallet and then send another transaction with a high fee, even though the funds are not in my Block.io wallet now because of the rebroadcasted transaction? If it is possible, how to do it?

Yes. You should be able to import the private keys of block.io into electrum, and it should work just fine.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
Well that's strange, as I used medium priority for sending that transaction, not low. And the fee is 0.00519072 BTC, which is not small.
Well, your transaction is over 95KB and for that size, you would be looking at the very least, a fee of 0.07BTC. Block.io probably don't have that great of an estimation.

So now I will have to wait another 3 days for it to drop again and I will have to be fast enough to send it again with high priority before it gets rebroadcasted again?
Yeah, the time may vary, if someone else rebroadcasts it continually. I'm not sure how Block.io works. If you'd like, you can search up on how to extract the private key(if possible) from Block.io. Using that, you can sign another transaction with a higher fee. Since the propagation isn't good, you're likely to get a confirmation really fast.
How many times more it can get rebroadcasted by itself? Hope this is not an infinite loop. Sad
It is an infinite loop, till it gets confirmed or the inputs gets spent in another confirmed transaction.

Thank you very much for your explanation.

By the way, is it possible for Block.io to drop the transaction from their mempool manually? I mean, can I ask them to do it? Then I will be able to send another transaction from my Block.io wallet with a high priority so it will get confirmed fast.

And Block.io not long time ago added the Private Keys feature for wallet holders. So it will be possible for me to extract the Private Key from my Block.io wallet into my Electrum wallet and then send another transaction with a high fee, even though the funds are not in my Block.io wallet now because of the rebroadcasted transaction? If it is possible, how to do it?
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
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Well that's strange, as I used medium priority for sending that transaction, not low. And the fee is 0.00519072 BTC, which is not small.
Well, your transaction is over 95KB and for that size, you would be looking at the very least, a fee of 0.07BTC. Block.io probably don't have that great of an estimation.

So now I will have to wait another 3 days for it to drop again and I will have to be fast enough to send it again with high priority before it gets rebroadcasted again?
Yeah, the time may vary, if someone else rebroadcasts it continually. I'm not sure how Block.io works. If you'd like, you can search up on how to extract the private key(if possible) from Block.io. Using that, you can sign another transaction with a higher fee. Since the propagation isn't good, you're likely to get a confirmation really fast.
How many times more it can get rebroadcasted by itself? Hope this is not an infinite loop. Sad
It is an infinite loop, till it gets confirmed or the inputs gets spent in another confirmed transaction.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
it's possible to see the transaction details only in chain.so, as it doesn't exist in blockchain.
It's normal. Its either your transaction was not propagated well or your fees were too low.
Today morning I noticed something very strange - the transaction got "deleted" and the funds were back to my Block.io wallet. Another very strange thing, is that few hours later, it was sent again by itself to the same Bitcoin address with the same transaction ID, and the situation is exactly the same now - unconfirmed transaction and not found in blockchain. Please let me know how could this happen and what should I do to solve this problem. Thank you.
When the transaction was "deleted", Block.io probably dropped it from their mempool since it was in there for so long. After that, it got rebroadcasted and the transaction appeared in the wallet again. Its completely normal and there is nothing to worry about.

However, the transactions has paid a very low fee/byte and it is unlikely to be confirmed anytime soon. The next time it gets dropped, it would be better for you to create another transaction with a higher fee.

Well that's strange, as I used medium priority for sending that transaction, not low. And the fee is 0.00519072 BTC, which is not small.

So now I will have to wait another 3 days for it to drop again and I will have to be fast enough to send it again with high priority before it gets rebroadcasted again? How many times more it can get rebroadcasted by itself? Hope this is not an infinite loop. Sad
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
it's possible to see the transaction details only in chain.so, as it doesn't exist in blockchain.
It's normal. Its either your transaction was not propagated well or your fees were too low.
Today morning I noticed something very strange - the transaction got "deleted" and the funds were back to my Block.io wallet. Another very strange thing, is that few hours later, it was sent again by itself to the same Bitcoin address with the same transaction ID, and the situation is exactly the same now - unconfirmed transaction and not found in blockchain. Please let me know how could this happen and what should I do to solve this problem. Thank you.
When the transaction was "deleted", Block.io probably dropped it from their mempool since it was in there for so long. After that, it got rebroadcasted and the transaction appeared in the wallet again. Its completely normal and there is nothing to worry about.

However, the transactions has paid a very low fee/byte and it is unlikely to be confirmed anytime soon. The next time it gets dropped, it would be better for you to create another transaction with a higher fee.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
Hello, I have a problem. 3 days ago, I paid 3.9 BTC from my Block.io wallet with medium (default) priority to Bitcoin address 1HQrV3gCs8pNDHBiMcmyQJqmBZTd3JJQbZ. Transaction ID is f89b79d5222a2016d0d2e0059d8834a61da817fd9ad31b3d58e0770cba4ddd87. Until now, it has not been confirmed, and it's possible to see the transaction details only in chain.so, as it doesn't exist in blockchain. Today morning I noticed something very strange - the transaction got "deleted" and the funds were back to my Block.io wallet. Another very strange thing, is that few hours later, it was sent again by itself to the same Bitcoin address with the same transaction ID, and the situation is exactly the same now - unconfirmed transaction and not found in blockchain. Please let me know how could this happen and what should I do to solve this problem. Thank you.
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