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Topic: U.S Bitcoin Spot ETF hits a total net inflow of $1.01 billion in this week. - page 2. (Read 280 times)

legendary
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locking coin to custodian to declare shares means they sell shares to customers for fiat and then use fiat to buy more btc to lock more coin
Which literary has no effect on bitcoin price. So which means Blackrock and others that have the bitcoin ETFs may not sell bitcoin even if the bear market is very significant? They just hold it and not buy more at the time until the next bull run? I guess that is how it would be. Very bad.

yes they dont sell coin, they just hold it. but that means there is a inflow gain and not much outflow loss of hoarding

once blackrock sell their creation of shares to secondary managers like robinhood/etoro.. blackrock BUY more coin to create more shares
this means coins have to come from somewhere

when people pay into a pension they are buying and hoarding shares of something. so each month new shares are needed or traded.. thus as long as the demand for shares keeps up the demand for coin keeps up

Even in a Bear market they wouldn't sell instead they would slow down accumulation or stop accumulating until demand picks up.
They become like a stabilizing force, they wouldn't add to the sell pressure during a Bear but would add to the buy pressure during a Bull market as more investor would want to get Bitcoin through ETF.

normally smart people buy the bear(dip) and sell the bull(pump)
you know ,, buy low sell high

however ETF do buy low they wont be doing much selling, they instead are a net flow of buy and hoard (inflow and accumulate)
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locking coin to custodian to declare shares means they sell shares to customers for fiat and then use fiat to buy more btc to lock more coin


Which literary has no effect on bitcoin price. So which means Blackrock and others that have the bitcoin ETFs may not sell bitcoin even if the bear market is very significant? They just hold it and not buy more at the time until the next bull run? I guess that is how it would be. Very bad.
Yes it doesn't really have an effect like normal buying and selling.
Even in a Bear market they wouldn't sell instead they would slow down accumulation or stop accumulating until demand picks up.
They become like a stabilizing force, they wouldn't add to the sell pressure during a Bear but would add to the buy pressure during a Bull market as more investor would want to get Bitcoin through ETF.
legendary
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locking coin to custodian to declare shares means they sell shares to customers for fiat and then use fiat to buy more btc to lock more coin
Which literary has no effect on bitcoin price. So which means Blackrock and others that have the bitcoin ETFs may not sell bitcoin even if the bear market is very significant? They just hold it and not buy more at the time until the next bull run? I guess that is how it would be. Very bad.
legendary
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I am certainly sure that all those companies are not interested in HODLing Bitcoin, but they just want to make a quick buck off of their investment.
This would be good if they will invest again. Although, as bitcoin marketcap is increasing, the volatility is reducing. But if bitcoin can get to over $100 thousand and latter fall during bear market to like $30000. This will give another investment opportunity of buying bitcoin at lower price again. It means the ETF may not affect the speculative value of bitcoin.

locking coin to custodian to declare shares means they sell shares to customers for fiat and then use fiat to buy more btc to lock more coin
legendary
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I am certainly sure that all those companies are not interested in HODLing Bitcoin, but they just want to make a quick buck off of their investment.
This would be good if they will invest again. Although, as bitcoin marketcap is increasing, the volatility is reducing. But if bitcoin can get to over $100 thousand and latter fall during bear market to like $30000. This will give another investment opportunity of buying bitcoin at lower price again. It means the ETF may not affect the speculative value of bitcoin.
legendary
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ETF inflows are from companies and business users, not individuals. That means Bitcoin is getting more popular only with companies, while it's got the same attractiveness to individuals that it had a few months ago.

I am certainly sure that all those companies are not interested in HODLing Bitcoin, but they just want to make a quick buck off of their investment.

the ETF inflows are about how much the ETF trusts are accumulating..

its literally in the title ... ETF   ...      inflow

..and yes they are hoarding.
as they are locking up that coin(with a custodian) to then register asset ownership with regulators to then register shares that the etf can then sell to individuals, businesses(their customers), and then those individuals can then resell to each other whilst the ETF and custodian just hoards the coins whilst individuals play the secondary etf share market for their pension profits

the data shows that for instance blackrock and fidelity combined accumulated 11k btc in last week whilst greyscale main trust sold off(outflow) 820 coin
other ETF trusts had smaller amount of inflows and some had outflows.. but generally a ETF accumulates more coins than it disposes (bar greyscale as the exception)

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repeated for emphasis
all news of "etf inflows/outflows" are going to be about the ETF trusts themselves..
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I first saw this news here, but my first thought was that perhaps the Fed has made its move. From articles I've read, it seems I was right. The Fed lowered the rate by 0.5%, and when the rate gets lowered, investors are motivated to buy shares, the stock market tends to recover. Since Bitcoin ETFs are close in their nature to the stock market, it makes sense that there's been a major inflow of money this week. BTC price is also up by almost 5% over the last 7 days.
It's all good news, but also highly dependent on the Fed.
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ETF inflows are from companies and business users, not individuals. That means Bitcoin is getting more popular only with companies, while it's got the same attractiveness to individuals that it had a few months ago.

I am certainly sure that all those companies are not interested in HODLing Bitcoin, but they just want to make a quick buck off of their investment.
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This Thursday, the bitcoin exchange traded funds ETFs hit a substantial  daily net inflow of over 360 million dollars making it the largest recorded since late July this year.

Does this mean the USA have increased in its crypto community in terms of its adoption rate or this was due to government effects?
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