US Dollar collapse in 2015? (Voting closed: March 29, 2015, 12:46:14 AM)
(not sure, but around 1-4)
Yes: ~10
No: ~40
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US Dollar collapse in 2015? (Voting closed: March 29, 2015, 12:46:14 AM)
(not sure, but around 1-4)
Yes: ~10
No: ~40
US Dollar collapse in 2015? (Voting closed: March 29, 2015, 12:46:14 AM)
(not sure, but around 1-4)
Yes: ~10
No: ~40
there is a chance that the euro might collapse first, seeing the recent trend, dollar seems strongher, i voted no
Where should we better keep the savings though? real-estate? gold?
Gold - Silver - Bitcoin
Historically speaking, the gold silver ratio has rested somewhere between 15 and 10 to 1, reflecting the average supply of each metal. There have been times throughout the history of money where the ratio has been even lower—China had a 4 to 1 ratio at one point and the ancient Egyptians demonstrated a 1 to 1 ratio at one point.
http://www.silver-coin-investor.com/gold-silver-ratio.html
http://taxfreegold.co.uk/goldsilverratioshistoric1970onward.html
than, seems like bitcoin could be new gold
there is a chance that the euro might collapse first, seeing the recent trend, dollar seems strongher, i voted no
Where should we better keep the savings though? real-estate? gold?
Gold - Silver - Bitcoin
Historically speaking, the gold silver ratio has rested somewhere between 15 and 10 to 1, reflecting the average supply of each metal. There have been times throughout the history of money where the ratio has been even lower—China had a 4 to 1 ratio at one point and the ancient Egyptians demonstrated a 1 to 1 ratio at one point.
http://www.silver-coin-investor.com/gold-silver-ratio.html
http://taxfreegold.co.uk/goldsilverratioshistoric1970onward.html
Did De-Dollarization Just Reach Escape Velocity? China's New Silk Road & Putin's Eurasian Trade Network
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/24/2015 - 23:00
The New Silk Road, actually roads - boosted by a special, multi-billion-dollar Silk Road Fund and the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), which, not by accident, has attracted the attention of European investors - symbolizes China’s pivot to an old heartland: Eurasia. Beijing has been quick to dismiss any notions of hegemony. It maintains this is no Marshall Plan. China, on the other hand, is focused on integrating “emerging economies” into a vast, pan-Eurasian trade/commerce network. And that, crucially, would have to include Russia, which is a vital part of the New Silk Road through an upcoming, Russia-China financed $280 billion high-speed rail upgrade of the Trans-Siberian railway. This is where the New Silk Road project and President Putin’s initial idea of a huge trade emporium from Lisbon to Vladivostok actually merge....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/did-de-dollarization-just-reach-escape-velocity-chinas-new-silk-road-putins-eurasian
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/24/2015 - 23:00
The New Silk Road, actually roads - boosted by a special, multi-billion-dollar Silk Road Fund and the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), which, not by accident, has attracted the attention of European investors - symbolizes China’s pivot to an old heartland: Eurasia. Beijing has been quick to dismiss any notions of hegemony. It maintains this is no Marshall Plan. China, on the other hand, is focused on integrating “emerging economies” into a vast, pan-Eurasian trade/commerce network. And that, crucially, would have to include Russia, which is a vital part of the New Silk Road through an upcoming, Russia-China financed $280 billion high-speed rail upgrade of the Trans-Siberian railway. This is where the New Silk Road project and President Putin’s initial idea of a huge trade emporium from Lisbon to Vladivostok actually merge....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/did-de-dollarization-just-reach-escape-velocity-chinas-new-silk-road-putins-eurasian
No one really knows when it will happen.. but it will eventually happen.
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
It is the export make USD worth something: Foreigners need USD to buy products/assets from US. If export stopped, huge amount of USD will become useless and sold by foreigners and the value of USD will crash
O'really? If so, how did it come to happen that the US net exports are negative overall with a trade deficit of almost 41$ billion just in January of 2015? Is it a mere coincidence that in the recent years the biggest trade deficits were recorded with China and Japan, which also happen to be the largest holders of the US debt?
So what is actually the United States exporting?
They´re exporting debt and if there are any snags the CIA and the military are quick to set that right again.
Good luck, g
No one really knows when it will happen.. but it will eventually happen.
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
It is the export make USD worth something: Foreigners need USD to buy products/assets from US. If export stopped, huge amount of USD will become useless and sold by foreigners and the value of USD will crash
O'really? If so, how did it come to happen that the US net exports are negative overall with a trade deficit of almost 41$ billion just in January of 2015? Is it a mere coincidence that in the recent years the biggest trade deficits were recorded with China and Japan, which also happen to be the largest holders of the US debt?
So what is actually the United States exporting?
No one really knows when it will happen.. but it will eventually happen.
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
It is the export make USD worth something: Foreigners need USD to buy products/assets from US. If export stopped, huge amount of USD will become useless and sold by foreigners and the value of USD will crash
Well too bad this doomsday scenario won't actually happen so you won't be able to say, "I told you so!" Buuuuut, now that I said that. If it happens you can come back to this and say it! (But it won't.)
there is a chance that the euro might collapse first, seeing the recent trend, dollar seems strongher, i voted no
Where should we better keep the savings though? real-estate? gold?
No way. USD is looking strong due to recovering US economy. We don't need a USD collapse for bitcoin to do well.
While it is true that the USA is on a long term unsustainable path - current account deficit and growing government debt - that does not mean the USD will collapse anytime soon. Just no way to know when.
Good Luck!
While it is true that the USA is on a long term unsustainable path - current account deficit and growing government debt - that does not mean the USD will collapse anytime soon. Just no way to know when.
Good Luck!
No one really knows when it will happen.. but it will eventually happen.
When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
I agree. However I feel you may have missed one supposition here. What if they don't want to save the country? What if they want marshal law? A final stroke to usurp the rest of the power that lies with the States and the People. When this "collapse" or "crash" in the dollar happens in the US, the solution is how we respond. Martial law is an Obama response and would ruin us. The only option would be, is to move our global business operations back here. Open oil reserves and drill here. Stop the exportation of our food and goods and start producing for ourselves only. Consume what we produce as a self sustaining nation. Energy independence would save our country. If we sustain ourselves in every sector here in America, then we would value our own dollar here. Make our own goods and produce our own energy. We would eliminate the need for buying overseas and our dollar would be valued by us , not the world. SIMPLE
Canada's export agency signed a deal with China's biggest bank on Monday to promote the use of the yuan as a settlement currency in trade-related transactions, as officials in Toronto launched the first yuan trading hub in the Americas.
"It means that trading will be enhanced, it means that costs for Canadian importers will be made more efficient," Oliver told reporters at the hub's launch event.
The Canadian Chamber of Commerce estimated in November that the trading hub could boost Canadian exports to China by C$32 billion ($25.44 billion) over the next decade, and cut Canadian importers' costs by as much as C$2.75 billion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/canada-china-yuan-idUSL2N0WP27M20150323
"It means that trading will be enhanced, it means that costs for Canadian importers will be made more efficient," Oliver told reporters at the hub's launch event.
The Canadian Chamber of Commerce estimated in November that the trading hub could boost Canadian exports to China by C$32 billion ($25.44 billion) over the next decade, and cut Canadian importers' costs by as much as C$2.75 billion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/canada-china-yuan-idUSL2N0WP27M20150323
This has been predicted for 2014, 2013, 2012, etc.
Not going to happen.
Thats what they want you to think.. Not going to happen.
This has been predicted for 2014, 2013, 2012, etc.
Not going to happen.
Not going to happen.
The dollar has so much popular opinion around it. Every country in the world would help support it if it began to fall apart.
You better hope it collapses the dollar is worthless except for the Ponzi bankers, this money puts you in debt and your children in debt.
Jobs are useless low paid, you go borrow to pay your debt, you cannot pay your debt, so they print more money for the bankers to Ponzificate it to you the slave' who works for nothing in the long run.
Corrupt CEOs who work for the government are corrupt, senators mayors, police, and all those on Capitol hill.
Billions of your tax dollars going to arm this sect that sect, and you want it that way?, ffs
Should I say Kiev... you spent a lot of dollars there to prop up a puppet government and many other countries around the world.
Think of any corrupt government in the world "any" your tax dollars are there.
Should the dollar collapse "Yeah"
Everything you say it's true, but there is a big difference from "it should" to "it's going to". I think the dollar scam is still powerful enough to be running for at least a couple decades now. Of course we'll see BTC being the antagonist of this and raising in the meantime so all's good. Jobs are useless low paid, you go borrow to pay your debt, you cannot pay your debt, so they print more money for the bankers to Ponzificate it to you the slave' who works for nothing in the long run.
Corrupt CEOs who work for the government are corrupt, senators mayors, police, and all those on Capitol hill.
Billions of your tax dollars going to arm this sect that sect, and you want it that way?, ffs
Should I say Kiev... you spent a lot of dollars there to prop up a puppet government and many other countries around the world.
Think of any corrupt government in the world "any" your tax dollars are there.
Should the dollar collapse "Yeah"
When interest rates rise, the dollar will become incredibly strong, IMO.
Bond yield and price trade in opposite directions, the lower the yield the higher the price of the instrument and vice versa. Now; financial institutions and indeed the FED itself are leveraged to the hilt and then some. So, it wouldn´t take that much hikes to pretty much wipe out their capital. Hence, all the QE desperation in past years.
Well, nothing lasts forever I guess. We´ll see how it unfolds in the coming months. The FED will begin hiking rates or so the dollar says. The FED´s problem is that they can´t really start a hiking trend and then soon reverse it. That would not be taken kindly in the market. After they say a they´re forced to say b and so on.
When interest rates rise, the dollar will become incredibly strong, IMO.
rates can only rise to about 3% before bankruptcies set in.. its all relative. It won't increase the rate too much fundamentally... fundamentally (not speculatively) the rate depends on the swap rate and at 4% other central banks will also raise so really it may rise against EUR or CNY but the other commodity based currencies will also rise the same amount so USD as a basket may hold steady or go down.
When interest rates rise, the dollar will become incredibly strong, IMO.
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