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legendary
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Just because someone is an author and a CEO does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about. They have been expecting inflation to go through the roof ever since QE started. The US inflation is around 2.5% annual and shows no sign of going up any time soon. Peter Schiff may be a smart guy but he is clearly wrong. Yes, the US economy will hit a rough patch here and there. Economy goes through  cycles, up and down, repeat, rinse and cycle again. So, I guess he will be right half the time, like anyone else.

US inflation is a disaster waiting to happen. Just like the housing bubble took a while before it hit, inflation will hit. It's not even a question if it will hit, the real question is when will it hit?

No matter what you do to prepare, make sure you have something to fall back on when dollars and other fiat are worthless. Food, shelter, farmland, diesel, weapons, tobacco, liquor, coffee, tea, chocolate, sugar, gold, silver, bitcoin are all better investments than dollars.

It is nice to see that most of the community is aware of what is going to hit us

I feel for all the nice people that are not going to be prepared at all, I hope they won't draw the wrong conclusions
Those who predict what will happen say it is because the state is rigging the economy, when the crash will happen the state will say we need more state bc that is always its only response to everything : control
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
Just because someone is an author and a CEO does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about. They have been expecting inflation to go through the roof ever since QE started. The US inflation is around 2.5% annual and shows no sign of going up any time soon. Peter Schiff may be a smart guy but he is clearly wrong. Yes, the US economy will hit a rough patch here and there. Economy goes through  cycles, up and down, repeat, rinse and cycle again. So, I guess he will be right half the time, like anyone else.

US inflation is a disaster waiting to happen. Just like the housing bubble took a while before it hit, inflation will hit. It's not even a question if it will hit, the real question is when will it hit?

No matter what you do to prepare, make sure you have something to fall back on when dollars and other fiat are worthless. Food, shelter, farmland, diesel, weapons, tobacco, liquor, coffee, tea, chocolate, sugar, gold, silver, bitcoin are all better investments than dollars.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 101
Be Here Now
Absolutely
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
Watched a great documentary a month or so back called Inside Job - check that out, particularly if you're in the US. There are a number of places online you can watch it free.

It was an eye opener for sure to see the whole issue dissected so closely...since we can't line them all up on wall street and just assassinate them, the next best thing is to bankrupt them and force the value of what they covet to zero.

Bitcoin is a huge weapon to make it happen.

Property and Gold are not "going to zero", so many/most wealthy people will survive pretty well.
Sadly, many innocent people will be hurt badly when the economy goes down.
full member
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Be Here Now
Watched a great documentary a month or so back called Inside Job - check that out, particularly if you're in the US. There are a number of places online you can watch it free.

It was an eye opener for sure to see the whole issue dissected so closely...since we can't line them all up on wall street and just assassinate them, the next best thing is to bankrupt them and force the value of what they covet to zero.

Bitcoin is a huge weapon to make it happen.
legendary
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Merit: 1094
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Well if the economy is going to collapse throwing people under the bus while getting your assets out and claiming the system is secure in order to get out safely makes the most sense.
legendary
Activity: 2338
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In the 50's the average american had a life approximatively twice better than now if you disregard technology : 2cars, few loans, owning house, usually the man was working and paying for college wasn't a big deal

There were a lot less people fighting for the same resources.   152M in 1950 vs 314M in 2012

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html

It will only snowball from here.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umFnrvcS6AQ

There will be laws for this in the future obviously
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Economic collapse worse than the great depression as many predict. Sure, the most valuable assets will be food, fuel, ammo, and crypto.  Roll Eyes
not crypto

ammo yes, lots of ammo

if u don't have guns ur in trouble

In a true zombie apocalypse scenario I would go for vodka and fuel. As someone who's seen the collapse of the USSR, vodka is the way to go. Maybe whiskey, to account for local traditions Smiley Guns are only required for those who already have lots of whiskey and fuel, to protect those - or if you are planning to go on the offensive.

It can collapse with riots and martial law without having a total collapse of the society

Seems like those predicting the collapse of anything, are pretty much always wrong.

As I recall, Obama was supposed to "destroy america" in his first term.  When he didn't he surely was "free to destroy america" in his second term because of structural changes in govt.

He didn't.

I told everyone before he got elected that we'd be alive and well after both terms. 

Life goes on.  People are crazy.

-B-

In the 50's the average american had a life approximatively twice better than now if you disregard technology : 2cars, few loans, owning house, usually the man was working and paying for college wasn't a big deal
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Seems like those predicting the collapse of anything, are pretty much always wrong.

As I recall, Obama was supposed to "destroy america" in his first term.  When he didn't he surely was "free to destroy america" in his second term because of structural changes in govt.

He didn't.

I told everyone before he got elected that we'd be alive and well after both terms. 

Life goes on.  People are crazy.

-B-
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 100
Economic collapse worse than the great depression as many predict. Sure, the most valuable assets will be food, fuel, ammo, and crypto.  Roll Eyes
not crypto

ammo yes, lots of ammo

if u don't have guns ur in trouble

In a true zombie apocalypse scenario I would go for vodka and fuel. As someone who's seen the collapse of the USSR, vodka is the way to go. Maybe whiskey, to account for local traditions Smiley Guns are only required for those who already have lots of whiskey and fuel, to protect those - or if you are planning to go on the offensive.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Just because someone is an author and a CEO does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about. They have been expecting inflation to go through the roof ever since QE started. The US inflation is around 2.5% annual and shows no sign of going up any time soon. Peter Schiff may be a smart guy but he is clearly wrong. Yes, the US economy will hit a rough patch here and there. Economy goes through  cycles, up and down, repeat, rinse and cycle again. So, I guess he will be right half the time, like anyone else.

2.5% annual inflation is from the actual method of calculation...  Dont get fooled by those flalse number..  Lookup inflation as it was calculated in the 1980's

You'll be surprised that inflation is really high, and actual.. just hidden and tricked !

It isn't even hidden that well and it is going to be so high that even the tricked official numbers will get pretty high in the coming year, Yellen is not going to do the right thing, she is going to do what she believes in and what she said she would if it gets tough : more QE
legendary
Activity: 1002
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin
Just because someone is an author and a CEO does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about. They have been expecting inflation to go through the roof ever since QE started. The US inflation is around 2.5% annual and shows no sign of going up any time soon. Peter Schiff may be a smart guy but he is clearly wrong. Yes, the US economy will hit a rough patch here and there. Economy goes through  cycles, up and down, repeat, rinse and cycle again. So, I guess he will be right half the time, like anyone else.

2.5% annual inflation is from the actual method of calculation...  Dont get fooled by those flalse number..  Lookup inflation as it was calculated in the 1980's

You'll be surprised that inflation is really high, and actual.. just hidden and tricked !
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1000
IT IS TIME TO BUY BITCOIN, PRICES MAY EVEN GO LOWER. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TIME FRAME OF THE PRICE MANIPULATORS.
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Be Here Now
Actually it'd be alcohol and cigarettes over pot. More smokers in the usa than stoners  Cool

Not any more I think.  But I would definitely add brass and lead to the list of worst-case currencies.


Actually, I recant...I forgot recreational use was legalized so yeah, stoners definitely coming out on top  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas


If there is a true economic collapse Bitcoins will mean nothing...

People will switch to the barter/trading system for goods/services.

Food, Shelter, Medicine and Self Protection will be valued the most.

cannot agree more

Bitcoin may actually prevent the kind of stone age collapse to which you refer.  If it does not, then that will be because the event precipitating the collapse eviscerated the networks, as e.g. an X-class solar flare.
copper member
Activity: 242
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If there is a true economic collapse Bitcoins will mean nothing...

People will switch to the barter/trading system for goods/services.

Food, Shelter, Medicine and Self Protection will be valued the most.

cannot agree more
legendary
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Merit: 1057
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Washington is engaged in a massive "campaign" to make Americans believe the economy is in recovery.  But in reality the United States is at the brink of a devastating economic crash that will cause catastrophic market losses and impoverish millions.

That's according to Peter Schiff...

Stopped reading right there. The guy is an idiot, has been predicting imminent economic doom for what seems like forever. He has been featured from schizophrenics like Alex Jones and that's not even the worst part. Worse he's uphold as some sort of guru from Libertarian armchair economist types, an insufferable mixture.

He's been right about as many times as a broken clock is right twice a day. The crisis was no surprise in serious economic circles there are plenty of saner individuals who actually had valid explanations for the thing.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
The crash is so over-due it's really hard to tell how much longer it can be delayed:
4 weeks
or
7 more years?
Both are possible...
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
I very much respect Peter Schiff, but I think he underestimates the power of the government to spin markets. They will do *anything* to prevent a crash. That may include "socializing" the economy step by step, turning it into a pure command economy in the course of the next 10 years or so. Eventually, the West will go the way of Argentina and Venezuela, but this will take a while. The US still has the war machine to prevent anyone from undermining the USD.

A crash may be planned.  That is one of the most direct means by which one can gain control of the material wealth of a society when one has control of the monetary system:  Successive planned cycles of inflation and deflation.  Recently the Fed board have been making noises about taking action against asset bubbles.  This may be telegraphing their intention to crash the stock market.  

I speak hypothetically and subjunctively.  I do not claim this is a current plan.  I merely observe that it might be.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
US economy goes down then it will take all other countries economy down too. Then we can go back to killing each other over food.

These things are matters of degree.  An economic downturn is unlikely to result is social disintegration, in and of itself.  A collapse of the USD, for example, would not be an apocalyptic scenario in practice.  Surely an apocalyptic scenario might precipitate a collapse of the USD, but the converse does not seem to be highly probable.
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