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legendary
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October 22, 2014, 12:04:52 AM
#29
We shouldve known about that. Online is the way to go. That is why, US exchanges is now coming online.

Lets nope that it will be good thing.
And that price will start to go up slowly or to be stable at least.

Im glad to see that they decided to get involved so i can personally say that this will be good thing.
newbie
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October 21, 2014, 10:23:11 AM
#28
We shouldve known about that. Online is the way to go. That is why, US exchanges is now coming online.
hero member
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October 20, 2014, 08:32:46 PM
#27
It was already said here on wall st that the ETF isn't coming out due to all these junk exchanges... It'll be a longgg while until that changes

Oh well if it was said here it's confirmed right....



right?
sr. member
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October 20, 2014, 08:30:59 PM
#26

No.  Here's what you're trying to respond to:

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Much of the problem is there are tons of people who think BTC= silk road. Why? Because that is what the media runs with. This casts a dark light on BTC, and people think that the only people who are into it or using it are only doing so for illegal activities. You can thank the media for that.

You can also thank bitcointalk users claiming black market is one of the reasons Bitcoin will succeed.  You can also thank all of the scams (Bitconica, Pirateat40, WeEx, TraderFortress, NeoBee, etc., etc.).  There's plenty of thanks to go 'round.

Edit:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828540.0;viewResults

TL;DR:  The media agrees with the overwhelming majority of bitcointalk users.
The mental degeneracy and moral turpitude of said users is neither here nor there.

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October 20, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
#25


Black market is used by a financially skewed media to paint bitcoin badly which is unfortunate. But black market usage of btc gives the currency value and utility just as much as buying a laptop from dell. Not only that bitcoin was used when btc was 1000 dollars or 275 dollars.

As we have discussed on other threads bitcoin is still nascent and volatile. It is my view (and it could be wrong) that btc userbase is growing and could easily drive the btc marketcap up a couple of orders of magnitude without being more than a digital trading asset.

People discount the coming ETF's as being unlikely to be approved or being already priced in (LOL), but there is money to be made and regulated derivatives markets are now coming out so I think it is simply a matter of timing now.

It could be drawn out until the next halving, but once the multi trillion dollar pool of capital currently excluded for regular investors from a tax free regulated entry into btc opens up it will be fireworks.

The last runup took probably a few hundred million dollars to drive up the price into four digits. It doesn't take a genius to see the profit motive for large holders prior to ETF's being approved. People like to hold a portion of their portfolio in something high risk, btc will be an option. A rise of two or three orders of magnitude from here is not unreasonable IMO.



It was already said here on wall st that the ETF isn't coming out due to all these junk exchanges... It'll be a longgg while until that changes
hero member
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October 20, 2014, 03:08:25 AM
#24
Sadly I still don't have any hope in seeing US exchanges in the near future.
But now with bitstamp and btc-e decreasing trading volumn every day, and all the core btc users in US, the demand will be extremely high.
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October 19, 2014, 10:10:05 PM
#23
If there is an American Exchange was born, it will get all of the trust
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
#22


Black market is used by a financially skewed media to paint bitcoin badly which is unfortunate. But black market usage of btc gives the currency value and utility just as much as buying a laptop from dell. Not only that bitcoin was used when btc was 1000 dollars or 275 dollars.

As we have discussed on other threads bitcoin is still nascent and volatile. It is my view (and it could be wrong) that btc userbase is growing and could easily drive the btc marketcap up a couple of orders of magnitude without being more than a digital trading asset.

People discountBTC the coming ETF's as being unlikely to be approved or being already priced in (LOL), but there is money to be made and regulated derivatives markets are now coming out so I think it is simply a matter of timing now.

It could be drawn out until the next halving, but once the multi trillion dollar pool of capital currently excluded for regular investors from a tax free regulated entry into btc opens up it will be fireworks.

The last runup took probably a few hundred million dollars to drive up the price into four digits. It doesn't take a genius to see the profit motive for large holders prior to ETF's being approved. People like to hold a portion of their portfolio in something high risk, btc will be an option. A rise of two or three orders of magnitude from here is not unreasonable IMO.


Great point. Wall Street is not going to leave money on the table. They are going to take positions off-exchange, being careful not to prematurely cause a bubble. When the high-throughput fiat on-ramp is ready, and they have taken their positions, they will spark the mother-of-all-bubbles.

This, we still don't have the infrastructure in place to handle the kind of fiat inflows a mass market financial product would bring.  Hopefully a US based exchange would improve the situation.
pa
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October 19, 2014, 11:16:22 AM
#21


Black market is used by a financially skewed media to paint bitcoin badly which is unfortunate. But black market usage of btc gives the currency value and utility just as much as buying a laptop from dell. Not only that bitcoin was used when btc was 1000 dollars or 275 dollars.

As we have discussed on other threads bitcoin is still nascent and volatile. It is my view (and it could be wrong) that btc userbase is growing and could easily drive the btc marketcap up a couple of orders of magnitude without being more than a digital trading asset.

People discountBTC the coming ETF's as being unlikely to be approved or being already priced in (LOL), but there is money to be made and regulated derivatives markets are now coming out so I think it is simply a matter of timing now.

It could be drawn out until the next halving, but once the multi trillion dollar pool of capital currently excluded for regular investors from a tax free regulated entry into btc opens up it will be fireworks.

The last runup took probably a few hundred million dollars to drive up the price into four digits. It doesn't take a genius to see the profit motive for large holders prior to ETF's being approved. People like to hold a portion of their portfolio in something high risk, btc will be an option. A rise of two or three orders of magnitude from here is not unreasonable IMO.


Great point. Wall Street is not going to leave money on the table. They are going to take positions off-exchange, being careful not to prematurely cause a bubble. When the high-throughput fiat on-ramp is ready, and they have taken their positions, they will spark the mother-of-all-bubbles.
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
#20


Black market is used by a financially skewed media to paint bitcoin badly which is unfortunate. But black market usage of btc gives the currency value and utility just as much as buying a laptop from dell. Not only that bitcoin was used when btc was 1000 dollars or 275 dollars.

As we have discussed on other threads bitcoin is still nascent and volatile. It is my view (and it could be wrong) that btc userbase is growing and could easily drive the btc marketcap up a couple of orders of magnitude without being more than a digital trading asset.

People discount the coming ETF's as being unlikely to be approved or being already priced in (LOL), but there is money to be made and regulated derivatives markets are now coming out so I think it is simply a matter of timing now.

It could be drawn out until the next halving, but once the multi trillion dollar pool of capital currently excluded for regular investors from a tax free regulated entry into btc opens up it will be fireworks.

The last runup took probably a few hundred million dollars to drive up the price into four digits. It doesn't take a genius to see the profit motive for large holders prior to ETF's being approved. People like to hold a portion of their portfolio in something high risk, btc will be an option. A rise of two or three orders of magnitude from here is not unreasonable IMO.
sr. member
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October 19, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
#19
...
Much of the problem is there are tons of people who think BTC= silk road. Why? Because that is what the media runs with. This casts a dark light on BTC, and people think that the only people who are into it or using it are only doing so for illegal activities. You can thank the media for that.

You can also thank bitcointalk users claiming black market is one of the reasons Bitcoin will succeed.  You can also thank all of the scams (Bitconica, Pirateat40, WeEx, TraderFortress, NeoBee, etc., etc.).  There's plenty of thanks to go 'round.

Edit:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828540.0;viewResults
hero member
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October 19, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
#18
The fact that these threads and topics are not gaining enough attention is enough to tell you people are little concern for legitimacy in crypto.

Professionals are coming.

Professionals aren't really paying attention to crypto because they know anyone who touch it will get instant scrutiny from government.

this depends in which country you live in some companies are quite interested. Those countries will become new regional bitcoin information centers. Countries that ignore bitcoin will stay behind and wil have problems to catch up in future.

Much of the problem is there are tons of people who think BTC= silk road. Why? Because that is what the media runs with. This casts a dark light on BTC, and people think that the only people who are into it or using it are only doing so for illegal activities. You can thank the media for that.
hero member
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October 19, 2014, 09:49:37 AM
#17
I think the reason why they are not popin up is because lately there has been nothing but negative news on bitcoin.

Why invest millions in a start-up and then have no customers. Like I said in my other thread, a lot of it was due to low volume these past fews months.

Exchanges only made money on trades, if there is no movement or volume. They can't make money.

I would say the reason they haven't appeared is the absence of a clear regulatory framework.
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Yup. This is why the biggest exchanges are currently not US-located. SecondMarket's exchange will probably launch with or shortly after BitLicense goes into effect, and itBit is waiting for that too before opening up to retail customers. I assume Kraken and others are also in wait-mode.

I agree that a solid, clearly regulated, US-exchange infrastructure is long-term bullish for price. But it may take a while. One of the positives is the potential to create liquid hedging products that businesses can use to hedge their exchange rate risk when accepting or using bitcoin. If those tools existed, bitcoin may more readily penetrate deeper into supply chains, especially for international customers. But it takes a while.



Right here. I am sure there is tons of money that wants to flow into BTC, but the lack of regulations when your a trading company or whatever, you dont want to tie yourself nor your customers or investors up in something that has no regulation. Companies hate uncertainty. They are certainly not going to risk their multi million or billion dollar company in something that is not clearly regulated.
sr. member
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October 19, 2014, 09:47:10 AM
#16
...Those countries will become new regional bitcoin information centers...

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October 19, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
#15
The fact that these threads and topics are not gaining enough attention is enough to tell you people are little concern for legitimacy in crypto.

Professionals are coming.

Professionals aren't really paying attention to crypto because they know anyone who touch it will get instant scrutiny from government.

this depends in which country you live in some companies are quite interested. Those countries will become new regional bitcoin information centers. Countries that ignore bitcoin will stay behind and wil have problems to catch up in future.
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October 19, 2014, 05:07:30 AM
#14
The fact that these threads and topics are not gaining enough attention is enough to tell you people are little concern for legitimacy in crypto.

Professionals are coming.

Professionals aren't really paying attention to crypto because they know anyone who touch it will get instant scrutiny from government.
sr. member
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October 19, 2014, 01:27:37 AM
#13
The fact that these threads and topics are not gaining enough attention is enough to tell you people are little concern for legitimacy in crypto.

Professionals are coming.
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
#12
Will be too expensive to get license due to the "transferable" (since you can move the coin anywhere in the world) nature of bitcoin.
Bitcoin exchanges aren't that cheap, either. Most US online stockbrokers (Etrade, TD, Schwab) charge about $9-10 a trade. Bitstamp charges about $10 on a $1000 trade, and $40 on a $10,000 trade. BTC-E is about the same; their terms are kind of vague about what they actually charge, so it's hard to tell. Buy $100 worth of Bitcoins through Robocoin, and you'll pay about $20 in spread and fees.

The track record of Bitcoin exchanges is that over half have gone bust, usually taking the customer's money with them. With a real SEC-registered broker, you get insurance on your funds on deposit.
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October 18, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
#11
Will be too expensive to get license due to the "transferable" (since you can move the coin anywhere in the world) nature of bitcoin.
legendary
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October 17, 2014, 11:51:15 PM
#10
I would say the reason they haven't appeared is the absence of a clear regulatory framework.
There is a clear regulatory framework in the US. You register with the SEC as a broker/dealer. You buy SIPC insurance coverage. You get audited and regulated by FINRA. If you dip into customer funds, you go to jail.

There's a question as to whether you have to be a broker/dealer to operate a Bitcoin exchange in the US. If you are a broker/dealer, it's just another investment you can deal in.

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