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Topic: US Government Begins BitCoin Crackdown - page 2. (Read 2255 times)

sr. member
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O god. You think the shit is fucked up now just WAIT until the Governments start getting involved. It will become one big old clusterfuck. Regulations.

You... dont... want this to happen.

And coming from this guy Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)... I would not waste my spit on this guy ( sorry NYers... after all you gots nanny bloomy too hows your big gulps LOL )
+10000   as new yorker i know  cant say more  but one can  understand when the phrase  : we have the best gov MONEY CAN BUY: comes from  enough said..
hero member
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Lets not forget that bitcoins are being used on the silkroad as well.

Drug dealers on the streets don't use credit card machines to have money deposited into their bank accounts exchanged with drugs? Or, lets go this route, USD cash is not being used on the streets of USA for drugs?

btc=cash
silkroad=streets

One thing I would imagine, silk road is safer to shop from, rather being shot for your five bucks for a hit of blow, rock, nick sack of weed.

No just their way to justify whatever they are planning on doing.

Exactly, this is why I make my point. It's utterly fucking bullshit.
If there is one thing I have learned in my 35 years of life... is that the Gov never usually has the "best intrests" in mind. Granted, they might seem good, but once you start getting the bureaucratic crap involved it becomes one big clusterfuck.
Its funny this reminds me of the Building inspectors bumper sticker here in town ( I live in a relatively small town ) and it says " do you have a permit for that?"
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Fuck tyler durdan he only exists for about 1.5 hours when i press play on the DVD. And it's not a crackdown but typical overhyped zerohedge style. It's because dumbass Mt.gox doesn't want to register properly, than senor Mt.Gox you will get fucked, simple as that.

They are not in the US so they don't have too, but then they can't do business with US customers.
hero member
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Lets not forget that bitcoins are being used on the silkroad as well.

Drug dealers on the streets don't use credit card machines to have money deposited into their bank accounts exchanged with drugs? Or, lets go this route, USD cash is not being used on the streets of USA for drugs?

btc=cash
silkroad=streets

One thing I would imagine, silk road is safer to shop from, rather being shot for your five bucks for a hit of blow, rock, nick sack of weed.

No just their way to justify whatever they are planning on doing.

Exactly, this is why I make my point. It's utterly fucking bullshit.
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Fuck Tyler Durden. He doesn't even trade crypto.  Cheesy
legendary
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This is being blown out of proportion.

The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.
THIS X 1337
hero member
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Lets not forget that bitcoins are being used on the silkroad as well.

Drug dealers on the streets don't use credit card machines to have money deposited into their bank accounts exchanged with drugs? Or, lets go this route, USD cash is not being used on the streets of USA for drugs?

btc=cash
silkroad=streets

One thing I would imagine, silk road is safer to shop from, rather being shot for your five bucks for a hit of blow, rock, nick sack of weed.

No just their way to justify whatever they are planning on doing.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
This is being blown out of proportion.

The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.

This cannot be said enough.  The government has had previous chances to go after BTC and has declined.  They are only targeting a company that broke the law with this warrant.  

If Mt. Gox is smart (which that's debatable), they'll immediately reach a deal with the government, in which they agree to properly register and pay whatever penalties/fines are assessed.  

The government is NOT going after BTC.  Atleast not yet.  

Give it time. This is tax money right here. You know the gov is licking their chops at the thoughts of extra money into the pet projects that they can piss away.
legendary
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The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.

Small correction, it was Mutum Signium that didn't have the license.  
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
Lets not forget that bitcoins are being used on the silkroad as well.

Drug dealers on the streets don't use credit card machines to have money deposited into their bank accounts exchanged with drugs? Or, lets go this route, USD cash is not being used on the streets of USA for drugs?

btc=cash
silkroad=streets

One thing I would imagine, silk road is safer to shop from, rather being shot for your five bucks for a hit of blow, rock, nick sack of weed.

I wonder how far the percentage has fallen of the murder rate since silk road.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
O god. You think the shit is fucked up now just WAIT until the Governments start getting involved. It will become one big old clusterfuck. Regulations.

You... dont... want this to happen.

And coming from this guy Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)... I would not waste my spit on this guy ( sorry NYers... after all you gots nanny bloomy too hows your big gulps LOL )
hero member
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Merit: 500
Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.
This is being blown out of proportion.

The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.

This cannot be said enough.  The government has had previous chances to go after BTC and has declined.  They are only targeting a company that broke the law with this warrant. 

If Mt. Gox is smart (which that's debatable), they'll immediately reach a deal with the government, in which they agree to properly register and pay whatever penalties/fines are assessed. 

The government is NOT going after BTC.  Atleast not yet. 
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
This is being blown out of proportion.

The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.
+1
Maybe this opens the door for a legitimate business.
sr. member
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Indeed. Lets not forget that bitcoins are being used on the silkroad as well.  I think that probably has a lot to do with the scrutiny for money laundering
legendary
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This is being blown out of proportion.

The only reason this happened is because Mtgox were foolish enough to lie and say they aren't a 'money transmitter' and try to operate without a license.

If they had the appropriate license this wouldn't have happened. A lesson to other exchanges in the future.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
www.bitcointrading.com
I find their crackdown flattering.
sr. member
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US Government Begins BitCoin Crackdown
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/15/2013 14:02 -0400

    European Central Bank



As we first noted here (regulation) and here (supervision), the US government has been gradually encroaching on the independence and freedom of the virtual currency. This week, as The Washington Post reports, the government escalated. The feds took action against Mt. Gox, the world’s leading Bitcoin exchange. Many people use Dwolla, a PayPal-like payment network, to send dollars to their Mt. Gox accounts. They then use those dollars to buy Bitcoins. On Tuesday, Dwolla announced that it had frozen Mt. Gox’s account at the request of federal investigators.

It’s the first federal action against the currency. CNet has confirmed that the asset seizure was initiated by Homeland Security Investigations (which among other things is responsible for enforcing the laws associated with money laundering and drug smuggling).

As this crackdown begins, many argue that "you can’t put the genie back into the bottle," as far as shutting down the 'network' of open source transactions; but as one Bitcoin enthusiast added (sadly), "I hate to say it, but the Bitcoin community needs to start lobbying, it needs to start educating policymakers, lobbyists and influencers about the pros of Bitcoin and the impossibility or the difficulty in getting rid of all the bad uses."

Considering the great antipathy the central planners have toward such legacy money as gold and silver, is it any surprise that they would move aggressively and rapidly to halt the emergence of yet another alternative to fiat, especially one which the ECB made it very clear will not be tolerated in an insolvent world. Because all is fair in preserving the FIATH...

Via The Washington Post:

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    Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) described Bitcoin as an “online form of money laundering” and called for the authorities to shutter the Bitcoin-based drug market Silk Road. Yet until recently, the feds have taken a relatively hands-off posture.

     

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    That hands-off stance may have started to change this week when the feds took action against Mt. Gox, the world’s leading Bitcoin exchange. Many people use Dwolla, a PayPal-like payment network, to send dollars to their Mt. Gox accounts. They then use those dollars to buy Bitcoins. On Tuesday, Dwolla announced that it had frozen Mt. Gox’s account at the request of federal investigators. It’s the first federal action against the currency.

    CNet has confirmed that the asset seizure was initiated by Homeland Security Investigations, a division of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Among other things, that agency has the power to enforce laws against money laundering and drug smuggling.

    ...

    Jerry Brito, a scholar at the libertarian Mercatus Center at George Mason University, urges federal regulators to tread lightly. “Bitcoin has the potential to be a boon to the economy and a boon to merchants,” he argues.

     

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    Moreover, he says, “You can’t put the genie back into the bottle.” In his view, the federal government would have as much difficulty shutting down the Bitcoin network as major content companies have had shutting down peer-to-peer file sharing. A major crackdown would merely drive the network underground, where it would continue to be used for illicit transactions but would be off-limit to ordinary consumers.

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    “I hate to say it, but the Bitcoin community needs to start lobbying,” he says. “It needs to start educating policymakers, lobbyists and influencers about the pros of Bitcoin and the impossibility or the difficulty in getting rid of all the bad uses.”


source http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-15/us-government-begins-bitcoin-crackdown
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