Topic: [US Only] Impeachment Vote - page 2. (Read 937 times)

There are times I have had to carry gun for protection.

But now I'm worried.

Should it have been "guns?"

Maybe so. If one is good three is better...

Ukraine didn't even know the funds were on hold when the call was made. Even if you believe the quid pro quo was implied, how does that work if there was no evident penalty or gain? Lets assume for a moment Biden is guilty of the crimes he is accused of. Exactly how should Trump have asked for a legitimate investigation? Impeached for asking corruption be investigated? What "other acts?" Exactly how is he using taxpayer money and gaining personally and Biden not?

It is illegal to use taxpayer money to bribe a foreign government to try helping you in an election. Furthermore, it is embarrassing an act of desperation. This act alone is impeachable, and there are many other acts which only fuel the fire. Republicans have no excuse but to work with Democrats to impeach that guy for using taxpayer money to his own personal benefit.

I think bluefirecorp_ is figuring out that he needs to think a little more rather than just blab out some nonsense. Check other threads where he has posted, and the responses to his posts.

Pretty much to keep trolls at bay. BADecker is a good example of a foreign troll.

You said exactly what I was thinking. I have a feeling that crypto is far from trump's mind

^^^ Or when all the people realize that they want to carry guns for protection.

well lets see how us will do when it is financially disadvantaged like albania

what do you want to say with "us only" are foreigners not allowed to join the chat?

i personally consider the impeachment attempt as absurd trump will continue to be president and he will be reelected.

Silly troll doesn't really understand government

LOL! That's not the impeachment process. That's only what the Dems have been doing since before Trump took office... data gathering.

So, the formal process is beginning.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

Can't win a game of chess against a bird who just shits all over the board.

If you want to "argue", argue in good faith, you dipshit.

Winning arguments is easy when you delete anyone who contradicts you isn't it?

Still no impeachment yet. Silly speaker of the house.

Probably November 22nd 2019 is the impeachment date though.

Decreasing over longer trends. If you care to actually do the math.

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When we take the oath of office, we solemnly vow ‘to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.’ The Mueller report states unequivocally that Russia interfered in the 2016 election ‘in sweeping and systematic fashion.’ And the Intelligence Community informs us that Russia is working 24/7 to undermine our elections. This assault on our elections is a serious national security matter which the President chooses to ignore.

“The Mueller report and his testimony last week confirmed that the President’s campaign welcomed Russian interference in the election, and laid out ten instances of the President’s obstruction of justice. The President’s more recent attempts to prevent us from finding the facts is further evidence of obstruction of justice.

“To protect our democracy and our Constitution, Democrats in the Congress continue to legislate, investigate and litigate.

Litigation:

Last week, Jerry Nadler, Chair of Judiciary, took a significant step when he filed a petition to obtain the grand jury testimony underlying the Mueller report, for the House to ‘have access to all the relevant facts and consider whether to exercise its full Article I powers, including a constitutional power of the utmost gravity — approval of articles of impeachment.’

Elijah Cummings, Chair of Oversight and Reform, is winning in court in the Mazars case, seeking the President’s financial statements and reports prepared by his accountant to determine financial conflicts, violations of the Emoluments Clause, and the truthfulness of representations contained in the President’s statutorily required financial disclosure forms; Maxine Waters, Chair of Financial Services and Adam Schiff, Chair of Intelligence are winning in court in the Deutsche Bank case, seeking the President’s bank account records to assist with the Committees’ investigation of unsafe banking practices, including money laundering, illicit transactions and foreign investments;

Richie Neal, Chair of Ways and Means, is pursuing the President’s tax returns to assist with the ongoing investigation of the IRS’s presidential tax audit program; Eliot Engel, Chair of Foreign Affairs, on another front, is investigating the Russia connection with hearings seeking the facts from the Trump-Putin meetings; In addition, last week, the House voted to reiterate its oversight authority, and ratified and affirmed the subpoenas already issued by the committees and any subpoenas to come. Responding to the subpoenas gives the President an opportunity to provide information that could exonerate him. If he has nothing to hide, he should cooperate with the subpoenas.

Investigation:

Our litigation has been strengthened by the months of work from our six committees which are engaged in the investigations. 54 percent of House Democrats serve on these committees engaged in hearings and investigations, and I am very proud of their work.

Legislation:

We have sent the Securing America’s Federal Elections Act to the Senate. However, Mitch McConnell refuses to take up this legislation or any other legislation to protect our democracy. Why do the President and the Republican Leader in the Senate choose to protect Russia rather than to protect the integrity of our elections? We will continue to lead a drumbeat across the country demanding the GOP Senate act.

“The assault on our elections and our Constitution is a grave national security issue. We owe it to our Founders to sustain our system of checks and balances and our democracy. We owe it to our heroic men and women in uniform who risk their lives for freedom to defend our democracy at home. We owe it to our children to ensure that no present or future president can dishonor the oath of office without being held accountable.

“In America, no one is above the law. The President will be held accountable.”

Uhh, living here, but because trolls posted charts comparing apples to oranges... I'm here to post the real charts...comparing US death rates since 2013-present.

year
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fatalities|injured|total_victims

(bottom numbers are column totals)


Pulled numbers from: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/3/

(feel free to disprove a shooting).

We can see a sharp increase in incidents post-2016 (2017 was scary). 2018 is still pretty bad with 4x the killings as 2014. This year still has a few months left and we're already worse than 2014.

(Also, my math is wrong in year 2013. Feel free to add up the totals yourself.. cause I'm not doing *all* the work for you; just see if you read before you even post )

The USA only has the most mass shootings because we are the most populated country that allows gun ownership. When you break it down per-capita it is certainly not the top of the list.



Mind you this is only Europe and Canada. With the entire globe included the US ranks even lower.

Yeah right, trump is creating more mass shooters lol. "one study found that nearly one-third of the world's public mass shootings between 1966 and 2012 (90 of 292 incidents) occurred in the United States"
"Everytown for Gun Safety, identified 110 mass shootings, defined as shootings in which at least four people were murdered with a firearm, between January 2009 and July 2014"

Where are you pulling your statistics from, your ass? The US has always been the country with most mass shootings since always basically.

Mass shootings sure have picked up steam after 2016. Pre-2016, we had one or two every year; now we're having them every couple of months.