US police shoot homeless man dead in Los Angeles - page 2.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on March 04, 2015, 12:52:55 PM

Quote from: BitCoinNutJob on March 04, 2015, 10:55:43 AM

I'd think the homeless guy doesnt have the current mental privillage to understand exactly what might happen if he goes for the officers gun. If the police are actually protecting the public they have to take this into account. Decision making is different at different times.

Conclusion: If you are a good cop its your job to not let this particular guy in range of your weapon. Seriously this is an embarrassment for the police.

kind of hard to arrest and cuff someone without him being in range of your weapon unless you have telekinesis

5 or 6 cops vs a guy who probably isnt in top physical condition? they could have just stood around in a circle and laughed at him until he wore himself out. He wasnt armed and isnt a UFC fighter so whats the rush, takes like 5 minutes to fight like he was until you are exhausted.

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Quote from: BitCoinNutJob on March 04, 2015, 10:55:43 AM

I'd think the homeless guy doesnt have the current mental privillage to understand exactly what might happen if he goes for the officers gun. If the police are actually protecting the public they have to take this into account. Decision making is different at different times.

Conclusion: If you are a good cop its your job to not let this particular guy in range of your weapon. Seriously this is an embarrassment for the police.

kind of hard to arrest and cuff someone without him being in range of your weapon unless you have telekinesis

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Quote from: saddampbuh on March 04, 2015, 06:37:29 AM

more mike brown than eric garner, he was killed after going for the officer's gun and being a clear threat , not for resisting arrest, the shooting is perfectly justified

I'd think the homeless guy doesnt have the current mental privillage to understand exactly what might happen if he goes for the officers gun. If the police are actually protecting the public they have to take this into account. Decision making is different at different times.

Conclusion: If you are a good cop its your job to not let this particular guy in range of your weapon. Seriously this is an embarrassment for the police.

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Quote from: Amph on March 04, 2015, 09:15:01 AM

the sad part about this, is that they are police, they could just ask him to move if that was the problem, doing it in a gentle way , not like that...

apparently they were trying to bring him in for robbery

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Quote from: avw1982 on March 04, 2015, 04:37:59 AM

In the US the shoot first and ask the questions later. The cops there are just some guys thinking the're some kind of heroes. In reality the're just scum.

the sad part about this, is that they are police, they could just ask him to move if that was the problem, doing it in a gentle way , not like that...

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more mike brown than eric garner, he was killed after going for the officer's gun and being a clear threat , not for resisting arrest, the shooting is perfectly justified

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In the US the shoot first and ask the questions later. The cops there are just some guys thinking the're some kind of heroes. In reality the're just scum.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on March 03, 2015, 11:02:38 PM

This is pretty much how these guys are trained, officer safety comes first and everything else is a distant secondary priority. When you got some homeless, drug addled scoundrel going at police officers and not following orders of a law enforcement official, then you're not gonna get sympathy from the public eye. Police have done far worse and got paid time off.

Is the U.S. a police state then? I always thought that the ultimate aim of law enforcement bodies was to ensure public welfare, not their own safety.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on March 03, 2015, 11:02:38 PM

This is pretty much how these guys are trained, officer safety comes first and everything else is a distant secondary priority. When you got some homeless, drug addled scoundrel going at police officers and not following orders of a law enforcement official, then you're not gonna get sympathy from the public eye. Police have done far worse and got paid time off.

Yeah its sad, if you become a police officier you have to expect to get your hands a little dirty. You also need to be hand eye coordinated to a certain level.

Never going back to america again screw that.

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What's new, honestly. You hear it enough, this is all over the news. The next time a thug shoots down a police offer, I'm not going to cry or feel bad. They kill us, we kill them. Why do police offers always get the law on their side? Since when is killing innocent people ok?

I hate American cops. Hate.

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This is pretty much how these guys are trained, officer safety comes first and everything else is a distant secondary priority. When you got some homeless, drug addled scoundrel going at police officers and not following orders of a law enforcement official, then you're not gonna get sympathy from the public eye. Police have done far worse and got paid time off.

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Looks like murder to me. Hard to believe all those cops couldn't subdue one unarmed man, either physically or with a taser.If this turns out to be true, they should all be fired and charged. If one of them let the deceased man grab his gun, he should be fired.

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Just so you know, there is already a thread on this right here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/police-shoot-and-kill-homeless-man-downtown-la-974137

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Police Story

US police have shot and killed a homeless man during an altercation in central Los Angeles, in an incident caught on video.

The graphic film shows a violent struggle between the man and several officers in the city's Skid Row area.

Police say that three officers opened fire after the man tried to grab a gun from an officer.

Witnesses said the dead man was known as Africa and had been homeless after treatment for mental illness.

The LA police department said officers had been responding to reports of a robbery and had attempted to use a Taser to subdue the suspect but he had "continued fighting and resisting".

Video of actual incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4N6hDSFbv8

On a related note
http://www.businessinsider.com/untrustworthy-police-get-military-weapons-2014-9
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/25/how-the-obama-administration-gives-away-military-grade-weapons-to-local-police/

All part of standard US policy to give even the untrustworthy police used military equipment

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