Topic: US Presidential Democrat Candidates...any one to care about? (Read 1725 times)

No, it's just a right out in the open demonstration of total incompetence, total inability to manage even simple things, and possible brain damage.
 

Now it is a direct Clinton vs Sanders fight, with Sanders ahead in some of the white-dominated states such as New Hampshire. However, Clinton will get 99% of the African-American, Hispanic and LGBT votes, which will enable her to destroy Sanders. I think Biden will be the VP candidate, in case Hillary wins the Democrat nomination.

Hillary is a republican in disguise. Same shit, different pile.

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Biden is not going to run.  And Obama appearing next to him at Biden's White House announcement likely means that the Justus Department will not indict Hillary.  Hillary, IMO, has now locked up the nomination.  She has the money and the majority of the D-Team support.

Predictor/Economist Martin Armstrong's take today:

"Biden bows to Hillary & Bankers"

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/38492

Hillary is the candidate of the banksters and the billionaires...........

He didn't attack because he wants to focus on what's important, the real issues that people care about. Do you really give a shit about emails, and if you do is it because you legitimately care, or is it because she's a dem and it makes her look bad so that's sweet. That's part of the republicans problem, they want to focus on attacking things, people, cultures, minorities, etc.

Besides, when the inevitable attacks from Hillary and her superpacs come, it makes her look bad since Bernie didn't attack her.

I got mad respect for Bernie. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is a man of principle at least. Hillary just follows the polls, she was against gay marriage until the very last second, then she was all for it. I might vote for him, too early to say.

This election is fairly important in that the next president will be in office while 3 SCOTUS jusitces are 80+, a 4th is 78, and some have health issues. Of the three that are 80+, one is liberal, one is conservativbe, and one is a swing vote. The current split is more or less 4 liberal, 4 conservative, 1 swing. Most divisive decisions end up being 5-4. So whether the next president is dem or republican will have significant impact on SCOTUS and the decisions it makes.

I'm pretty certain Bernie will win, he has way more support than Obama did at the same point in his campaign, and he appeals to the same voters.

If you guys are talking about regulation, then you do have a point and I agree. Otherwise, you would be wrong. While they can do a lot in regards to regulation (will probably mess it up), like they did in NY, they can't do anything to Bitcoin (i.e. mess with it). What does this mean exactly? Bitcoin as a protocol can be influenced easily. Even if a ban were to occur, it doesn't really do much. Bitcoin will work whatever they decide.
If it does become popular, then they can't really do anything bad to it without losing support.

Yup, + 1

Yup, + 1 again.

I think that is exactly what would happen, all kinds of abuse potential out there re a cryptocurrency and politicians.  Maybe as the Bitcoin Ecosystem get stronger, it will become more resistant to political tampering.

There is still a major BTC weakness: cashing it in for goods or fiat.  Still, were BTC to become really big, maybe that problem would solve itself.  But, if BTC becomes really BIG, then that would attract the interest of politicians...

Hey, you don't want US Politicians to take a serious interest in Bitcoin...they'd fuck it up so fast. Seriously. Politicians need to keep their do-anything-for-the-vote intentions as far away as possible from this good thing called Bitcoin.

If we check the conjuncture this time president will be chosen from Republicans. It's not too hard to tell.

Our predictions doesnt really matter,
what matters most is still the result of the upcoming election.
But if I will be asked if who I want to win,
for me I would like Biden to win this election

Why such a negative stance towards this? Between Hilary, Bernie and Trump I'd rather go with Bernie. From what I've seen so far he has the "best" ideas. I'm not sure where you heard about that trillion or two? He wants to work on economic inequality (among other things) by trying several ideas (one of which is possibly imposing a 90% tax on the highest earners ). He's not that bad, even though I do not support anyone in the presidential debate.

Unfortunately that is a likely outcome.

There aren't any.  You've got the SJW Bernie, and you've got the power-hungry criminal Hillary; neither of them care much for democracy, in fact both of them would love more central control.  I believe Bernie has offered to spend, what, a trillion, two trillion, on fixing the infrastructure--where the fuck is he going to get that money from?  He's going to take it from people like you and me.  Why, then, if we want the infrastructure to be fixed so badly, are we not doing it ourselves?  After all, doing it ourselves would be the most democratic approach to it--why wait for Bernie to magically come up with trillions to pull it off?  Therein lies the crux: it's not about democracy, it's about more power.  The more control of the economy the central government has, the less control of the economy the nation in general has, i.e. the less control you personally have.  This is what lack of economic education does to you, it's what it does to Bernie, it's what it does to his supporters.  There is no one who supports any of these people who also understands the implications of their support (which is probably why they're so willing to have someone else rule for them, but if you're too ignorant to even select your own rulers correctly, it kinda breaks the whole point of having a democracy.)

Anyway, I don't see how Hillary's supposed to lead the nation behind bars, so why anyone is even bothering listening to her is beyond me.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of her voters were cucks.  My dad was one (now divorced), he said he'd vote for her, specifically because she's a woman and "wouldn't it be cool to have a woman president"; he's also said I'm a misogynist because I didn't believe that women were paid less than men for the same job (still don't, and now it's well known to be a myth.)  Eugh; just saying, these people are real, and no amount of facts will make them change their minds.  As far as I am able to determine, Hillary cares only about power acquisition, nothing more and nothing less.  Power-hungry people will only seek more power; Hillary will most certainly do everything in her power to gain more of it, even after she gets the election.  She won't stop until we're all bowed before her, and if that means violence against the population, so be it; they got plenty of militarized police units to pull off something big.

Democracy is the last thing you'll find in these people.  "Democrat" is just an identifier.  The true democratic leaders are those you listen to and follow on your own accord, because you want to, not because "oh no, what if that other guy gets into office, I don't want him in charge, therefore I will vote for the lesser evil," and then wind up ignoring anyway (up until the point that you can't, of course.)

Most of the republican candidates suck but all of these democrats suck even worst. If the only solution to help save or rekindle the middle class is to spend even more money and tax others even more, then just burn the motherfucker down. Only freedom and drastic reductions in govt spending and tampering w/ the monetary supply is gonna set things on a better course for revival. Also, tell the Fed to screw off as we're gonna default on the national debt and then all the central bankers can get what's coming to them after all they've done.

I would disagree completely.  During the D-Debate, Bernie handed Hillary The Crown to the Nomination!  By bleating about how no one wants to hear about her "damn emails", he lost ALL CREDIBILITY!  He should have attacked...

Bernie contends that he is against "the billionaires".  Maybe, maybe not.  But, he just ensured that Hillary would win the nomination. And Hillary gets TONS of money from Wall Street and the biggest banks (Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman Sachs) and Jamie Dimon (JPMorgan Chase) are both Democrats).

And she will, barring the unlikely event of a felony indictment via the FBI investigation...

bryant.coleman is right.  She will win unless she is touched by the "Just-us Department".

well that's quite narrow minded of you to think that bitcoin support is the sole basis on who you support.

the campaign itself shouldnt be an indicator of who you feel would run the country the best of the candidates, pay attention to their policies and ideas.

i feel itll come down to her and sanders, but honestly, i think every presidential candidate in the US is bound to fail in the sense that theyll drive the country deeper into the pit and end up hated at the end of 4/8 years.

Feel the Bern he has the best campaign ever.

Sanders will not be able to score more than 25% to 30% of the primary vote, as his support is limited to certain small sections within the Democrat voters (especially white males). The female whites, as well as the "minorities" are solidly behind Hillary Clinton, and in the absence of a miracle, she will comfortably win the primary contest.

I like the way Aaron Miller put Hillary's tenure as Secretary of State into context..."not consequential". Or how about Danielle Pletka...."enormously ineffective". Did we ever find out what happened to the $6 billion dollars the State Department misplaced during her tenure? Maybe we should audit the Clinton Foundation.

To me it looks like Hillary Clinton will win, she is the early favourite and her campaign has earnt more compared to Bernie Sanders' campaign. Another serious competitor to her is Bernie Sanders, his attitude and enthusiasm really catches peoples eyes. With this, he has lot of supporters and he has a chance of winning. At the same time, Hillary also has a lot of supporters, In fact, she has even more than Bernie. That is why I think Hillary will win. 

Who are these two other guys that no one seems to know or care about?  Maybe we should know them very well and their platform first.