Topic: US starring at 18 months lockdown - Neel Kashkari (Read 506 times)

I entirely agree. We are staring at one of two things:
1. Get back to work, and let a few hundred thousand die - mostly people who would have died anyway;
2. Maintain the lockdowns/shutdowns and kill millions.

We are at the turning point right now. Get back to work today, or kill millions.

By all means, it will be really dangerous to prolong quarantine. Even if not a 80 % will be destroyed, but 40 % (half of all services), no, even 20 %. Such country will be doomed. That's fact.

But yeah, it would be good (in any country) if industry or agriculture will raise. But in reality it will be hard to happen, because if you lost your job and money, it's hard to do anything in big countries. Where do you get money for farm or a small workshop? Yeah, from nowhere :c

Hi, franky1. Thanks again for helping me show the forum that Coronavirus is a hoax.

The best reason to get out of your house is to get fresh air and sunshine. Sunshine gives you natural vitamin D, and fresh air cleanses you from the chemicals in the building that is your house. So, you are absolutely right. We Arizonans have REASON to get out of our houses, not excuses.

But actually, if the weather is good, everybody should get out of their houses... especially at this time when their employers won't let them come to work. Good for their health to get out and relax and have fun in the sun.

Oh, btw, do you have medical records you can post for any people here? And, can you prove that the medical people were going against the unreasonable orders by the CDC to call anything Covid-19?

I know you had me figured out months ago. That's why I thank you for helping me fight the media and doctor lies that there is a disease pandemic. The pandemic is there, but it is a pandemic of the mind, where people are being suckered into believing there is a CV pandemic.

Thanks, franky1..

well now they are relaxing arizona because its not a hotzone. now you have no excuse to get out of your house and actually go find the victims families of covid and ask their thoughts. then get their medical records and see their scans

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oh wait. let me guess you will try to convince yourself of any lame excuse to not exit your basement and instead find ways to avoid seeking evidence. you are obviously comfortable in your ignorance.

yep i had you figured out months ago

Hey, man. Thanks again for advertising me and my posts.

Don't you realize that they don't want home schooling, because it is the home schoolers, both teachers and students, that are advertising the most against the fake CV pandemic?

Don't you realize that what any country does, isn't what the people - even in government - necessarily think? Forget the Japan stuff until you learn to adjust your thinking to reality.

As you say, a pandemic doesn't happen to everyone at the same time. But do you know what happens to everyone at the same time in this world of interconnected communications? Fake news media.

You haven't checked into what Arizona is doing. They are changing their tactics. They are allowing things to become more free, while at the same time making things to be more orderly. You really need to get on the ground in Arizona, to see why so few people have gotten the flu and pneumonia. There essentially isn't any positive test for Covid-19, or the other Coronaviruses.

So, thanks again for your help in advertising.

another lesson time for badecker
seems he needs home schooling

first of all japan didnt do any repatriation flights from china..
but america did.
thats why there is a massive difference in numbers

secondly japan cancelled the olympics and is now deciding if it too should start thinking of self isolation
now that its numbers are on the rise

so here is the big mind blowing thought.

a pandemic does not happen to everyone at the same time. it has to pass between people and travel.. so different countries different regions get it at different times especially if they do things to prevent/delay the spread

so yea arizona is not really a hotzone because they went into lockdown a few weeks before a hotzone critical number.
if you stupidly think every country all got infected on december 18th along with china. then you stupidly are more than ignorant than ever

Now Elon Musk, along with McAfee, are agreeing that the whole CV thing is an inside job. The sooner we wake up to this fact, the sooner we can get on with our lives and get back to work.

Check the site for John McAfee's tweet, and Musk's response to it.


Elon Musk Endorses McAfee's Theory: Hospitals Inflating COVID-19 Deaths

It also goes to countries that have a huge infection not only US, and  I don't think it will reach 18 months our scientist are aggressive in finding the right vaccine for this virus and US pharmaceutical companies are not far behind they will do everything to get the cure but you are right about announcing a very long lockdown, it will surely create panic and hopelessness.

its actually 80% service sector
but that service sector is not prodomenantly customer facing. its call centres and office stuff. which people can work from home.

americas '20trill' gdp is not even normal broad money but the derivatives and insurance 'balances' that are not actualy backed up by true broad money

so relax a bit about the economy. as long as people can guy a loaf of bread and a tin of baked beans. people will survive
trying to risk health to keep FIAT stable is foolish.. a nurse and an available hospital bed is worth more than a bank note

i would actually like to see a swing of people changing their jobs out of the 'service sector' and into the farming/industrial sectors and definetly get the number of medical staff trained up to buffer the needs should anything like this happen in the future

Ahahah, if any country will stay 18 months closed, then it will be economics and social death to it. Even for such powerful country like USA. 70 % of american GDP is services sector, 18 % is industry and 1-2 % is agriculture. So, if 70 % of GDP will disappear, what will left?

Quarantine could be long in 1918, when most countries have small service sector and big industry with agriculture, but now it's impossible to keep lockdown more than 3-4 months.

Everything is very simple, you can grow your own food, start production inside the country. But this is not so easy, as there are many other problems that prevent it from being organized.

so badecker does not realise that the amount of people that get a severe response to covid is like 20%
with a 320mill population.. does badecker really want to see 64million people struggle to breathe. and IF there was enough beds for them 6mill die..
does he not realise with there not being that many hospital beds with oxygen supply or other treatments that more than 6mil will die.

all so that badecker can huddle up in his basement (in a non general population restricted scenario) and let the viral storm blow past him and through all his neighbours so that in 6-9 months he can go to the store and never get it.

badeckers herd immunity ploy is to make other gets get it, others suffer, let it pass so that he never has to get it.
thats not herd immunity. thats herd sacrifice and herd evasion.
idiot, selfish and ignorant

yes lockdown isnt going to make herd immunity blow through the whole population in 6 months. the whole point is to not get it to critical numbers that overwhelm hospitals.
so it wil be a trickle amount of 0.3-1% a month for obviously more than 1 year rather than
0.1,0.3,1,3,9,27,81,100 in 6-9 month
yep expect each month to be more like 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 max

so badecker if your plan was to ride it out and wait for everyone else to get it.. forget that plan and try something different.

many hospitals cant cope with a 1% spread. so that means if hospitals in your town get overwhelmed restrictions will be tightened again

Russians know better about CV. Note that there is a transcript of the video.


Russian Athlete Blasts Media and Mayor: Lockdown Is 'F**Ing Nonsense!...




Who Needs This Circus!? Russian Ice Hockey Player Launches Tirade At Mayor Over Coronavirus Lockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PxqUPclfjM

^^^ I agree. America is self-governing. The people should get up and self-govern by getting rid of these pandemic scammers, their governmental leaders. This will reduce the lockdown times dramatically.

if the US citizens continues to be irresponsible then it might be more than just 18 months of quarantine because there's still no vaccine and normally according to the past pandemics. A drug is created after 2 or 3 years max.

But i also think Neel's statement was really inappropriate because it will only spread hysteria and uncertainty towards millions of jobless Americans.

I disagree with them. Why are they opposed to the only solution or way to prevent viruses? The massive lockdown was implemented in areas where there were infected people to prevent it from spreading. Then they say it's a mistake and it's dangerous. I don't think so, because, without a lockdown, we would probably be much worse off than we are today.
Even at home, you can still do what you used to do like expose sunlight every morning to windows, exercise, jogging, or walking ... Eat vegetables and fruits, be hydrated to keep your immune system strong. Let's just think about the good side of this lockdown and not worry about it.

Simple, standard understanding of the way viruses and bacteria work, shows us that we need to remain OUT OF lockdown, so that our immune systems can do their job effectively. Hit the beach.


Two Heroic Southern California Doctors Explain Why the Lockdowns are a Mistake




Dr. Erickson COVID-19 Briefing, Pt. 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6j7o1pLBw


Here is the first part - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_lBLU.

Do these thousands of other websites have the names and addresses of doctors who are willing to get on the stand and explain to the world how they can tell the difference between Covid-19 and SARS, with pictures, and evidence that this is what they did with patients... patients whose names and lab-work are available?... and a whole lot more?

How do we know that these thousands of websites are saying anything other than science fiction at their base and core, even if they use some things that are factual in their processes?

Since there are thousands, perhaps you could show us a few... not thousands, or even hundreds, but just a measly dozen, okay?... with proof that they aren't manipulating the data for their own purposes.

the 5 websites you view have no proof. i agree
but the thousands of other websites. the labs. the hospitals. the doctors and the experts do have proof

your lack of ability to do research does not mean there is no proof at all. it just means YOU refuse to look for proof in places where proof is found

try to actually research away from them 5 websites you frequent. you might surprise yourself

and before you start down your silly path of scripts which are predictable now
you do not need a court case to establish proof.
showing secondary sourced information that when scrutinised and checked verifies what is said. can be used as proof

showing secondary sourced info but lacking scrutinising it or checking it is valid is not proof.

this is why when police ask for a drivers licence. they dont just look at it. they go back to their car and check the details and see if it matches their records.

its why cops dont just smell someones breath for alcohol. but use a breathalyser
its why cops dont just see a car driving fast but use a speed gun to find actual speed

yep i predicted you would go down the 'court proof' script.. because thats your default rebuttal. but its a shame that months ago when you got debunked before that you didnt wise up and learn from that

But it wasn't always this way. So, at this point we don't have proof one way or the other. Are you getting proof? What is your proof? Since there never was CV proof, why are we shutting down?