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Yeah well, that´s really minuscule generation there in the table. Will require much more adoption in the larger picture to get solar off the ground. Some European countries are pretty well off the ground. But overall
 it´s still microscopic.

legendary
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For as long as I remember solar power has been about to take off, but its share in the U.S. electricity generation is still interestingly about zero.

In 2014, the United States generated about 4,093 billion kilowatthours of electricity.1  About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2014:

Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%

Energy Information Administration.

When solar hits, it will be too late to get in on the ground floor.

25 Top Companies Investing in Solar - http://ecowatch.com/2014/10/15/companies-invest-solar-seia/

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The comprehensive new report, which identifies major commercial solar projects and ranks top corporate solar users, shows Walmart at the top of the list for the third year in a row with 105 megawatts (MW) installed at 254 locations.

Rounding out the top 25 companies utilizing solar are Kohl’s, Costco, Apple, IKEA, Macy’s, Johnson & Johnson, Target, McGraw Hill, Staples, Campbell’s Soup, U.S. Foods, Bed Bath & Beyond, Kaiser Permanente, Volkswagen, Walgreens, Safeway, FedEx, Intel, L’Oreal, General Motors, Toys “R” Us, Verizon, White Rose Foods, Toyota and AT&T.



Don't think these companies aren't looking at solar as a sales item when the time is right.

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hero member
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For as long as I remember solar power has been about to take off, but its share in the U.S. electricity generation is still interestingly about zero.

In 2014, the United States generated about 4,093 billion kilowatthours of electricity.1  About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2014:

Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%

Energy Information Administration.
legendary
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Bad if you want to claim the speed of light is the same in all mediums then you need to go join your buddies who say solar panels will drain the sun and kill all the plants.

There's no new physics here it's an established irrefutable fact that the speed of light depends on the medium it's traveling through.

The stars are moving and the earth is motionless, case closed.

Case not closed.

Speed of light is irrelevant.

Action of light traveling through a particular medium as opposed to some other medium is irrelevant.

The thing that rules is the action of light through the ether... or through space if you want to believe in space rather than the ether.

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Physics is flawed. It is flawed because basic math is flawed. For example, 1 + 1 never equals 2. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. They are always at least a little different. Because of this, 1 + 1 will always equal 1 + 1... never 2.

When you consider this, the deeper you get into any form of physics, the greater will become the flaw. This is part of the reason why standard physics has more and greater holes in it as you apply greater math to describing that physics. Certainly the physics itself doesn't have any holes. It is the description of physics that produces understandings that are flaw, because the description is based on the flawed language of mathematics as it exists.

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When I say that "you can't," I don't mean that you are unable to make the attempt. But the thing that you are attempting to do is to take some pieces of a flawed description of physics, and apply them to a different description of physics to make a more accurate description of physics. If you don't apply quantum math to what you are doing, the odds are that your description will be more flawed than the one you are attempting to replace.

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Parallel universe theory suggests that there are as many as an infinite number of universes occupying the same space and time that ours occupies. Parallel universe theory never really got off the ground, because it requires the ether to make it work. The ether is the substance that the parallel universes are "made" out of.

We have mathematically (with our flawed math) described completely 6 or 8 dimensions. We have a good handle on another 6 or 8. Then there are 15 or so that we have some math for, but these are not seen at all clearly. Yet it is the dimensions that express the way the parallel universes exist in different "phases" that keep them separate while at the same time allowing them some interaction.

Let's say that some star out there somewhere, shoots out a photon of light. This photon makes it to earth and is observed. Yet the photon itself is a thing that has changed untold times over simply to "travel" the distances from the star to the earth. It is destroyed and recreated by interactions of the various universes according to dimensional laws (ether laws) that cannot be comprehended by space physics.

Flat earth is attempting to apply space physics to ether physics in some areas. It simply will not work. Flat earth ideas are just as flawed as current standard ideas.

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One + 1 does not = 2. Again, the reason is that there are no 2 1s that are the same. The closest that we can come to making 1 + 1 = 2 is found in quantum math, because it is the closest that we can come to finding two 1s that are the same. Where are these two extremely similar 1s? They are 1 and -1. The only difference between 1 and -1 is the "charge." Yet, with our math, 1 + -1 = 0.

The ancient peoples from the past, past that we formally calculate as, say, 14,000 years ago, recognized this. It is the reason their science was different than ours. It is the reason that their science was based on something more accurate. It is the reason that they were destroyed in a cataclysm that nearly destroyed the earth, because even THEIR math/science was flawed. We are heading the same direction as they, partially because our science, flat earth or round earth, is even more flawed than theirs.

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Flat earth and round earth are fun to play with. Play. But get down to life, as well.

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legendary
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Bad if you want to claim the speed of light is the same in all mediums then you need to go join your buddies who say solar panels will drain the sun and kill all the plants.

There's no new physics here it's an established irrefutable fact that the speed of light depends on the medium it's traveling through.

The stars are moving and the earth is motionless, case closed.
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

Check your facts, the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is considerable.

Speed of light in air: 299,700 km/s
Speed of light in water: 225,070 km/s

The speed of light in various mediums doesn't have anything to do with it. The thing that controls is the differences in the ether in different mediums. In other words, the ether acts differently in such a way that it "tricks" one into thinking that there is a difference in the way that light acts as it passes through different mediums of different densities.

If you are going to consider the ether, you have to consider it all the way. You can't simply say that there is ether and that it is the density of water vs. the density of air that makes the difference, when all along it is the activity of the ether that is giving a false reading.

We simply don't know enough about the ether and how it acts and reacts. Because of what it might be, the ether that is located at the surface of the earth might actually cause a real reaction on the ether multitudes of light years away when it is disturbed here.

Airy's failure was not a failure. It simply proved something completely different than Airy or anybody else generally considers... elasticity and reactivity of the ether.

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Nothing to do with it? The whole fucking experiment is based on the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water.

The whole idea of the speed of light is that the speed is relatively constant. The constant part exists because Einstein's theories suggest that space is "empty." This means that you can't use the idea of a constant speed of light when you suggest that there is ether filling space. You have to consider the activity of the ether, something we know very little about.

In other words, if you are going to throw out the system of physics that is the standard of today, you can't simply pick and choose which parts of it you are going to accept, and which parts of it you are going to reject. The thing you need to do is develop ether physics as a whole unit of physics before you can determine what you are seeing with Airy's experiments.

One of the things that you might have done with all the flat earth stuff is, you might have shown where there are big holes and gaps in standard physics. But until you develop your physics to the point that it is a viable unit, your ideas fail faster than the ideas of standard physics.

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legendary
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The Earth is not a spinning globe and the Airy's Failure proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

Check your facts, the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is considerable.

Speed of light in air: 299,700 km/s
Speed of light in water: 225,070 km/s

The speed of light in various mediums doesn't have anything to do with it. The thing that controls is the differences in the ether in different mediums. In other words, the ether acts differently in such a way that it "tricks" one into thinking that there is a difference in the way that light acts as it passes through different mediums of different densities.

If you are going to consider the ether, you have to consider it all the way. You can't simply say that there is ether and that it is the density of water vs. the density of air that makes the difference, when all along it is the activity of the ether that is giving a false reading.

We simply don't know enough about the ether and how it acts and reacts. Because of what it might be, the ether that is located at the surface of the earth might actually cause a real reaction on the ether multitudes of light years away when it is disturbed here.

Airy's failure was not a failure. It simply proved something completely different than Airy or anybody else generally considers... elasticity and reactivity of the ether.

Smiley

Nothing to do with it? The whole fucking experiment is based on the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water.
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

Check you facts, the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is considerable.

The speed of light in various mediums doesn't have anything to do with it. The thing that controls is the differences in the ether in different mediums. In other words, the ether acts differently in such a way that it "tricks" one into thinking that there is a difference in the way that light acts as it passes through different mediums of different densities.

If you are going to consider the ether, you have to consider it all the way. You can't simply say that there is ether and that it is the density of water vs. the density of air that makes the difference, when all along it is the activity of the ether that is giving a false reading.

We simply don't know enough about the ether and how it acts and reacts. Because of what it might be, the ether that is located at the surface of the earth might actually cause a real reaction on the ether multitudes of light years away when it is disturbed here.

Airy's Failure was not a failure. It simply proved something completely different than Airy or anybody else generally considers... elasticity and reactivity of the ether.

Smiley
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

Check your facts, the difference in the speed of light in air vs. water is considerable.

Speed of light in air: 299,700 km/s
Speed of light in water: 225,070 km/s
legendary
Activity: 2212
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

And.. now I have to Google this to learn what you guys are talking about, XD.

This is Airy's Failure experiment in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87M2i61N1cU
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

And.. now I have to Google this to learn what you guys are talking about, XD.

There isn't going to be a lot of information about the ether. Modern science tries to ignore it. Ether, also spelled aether, penetrates and fills the space between the electrons and the nuclei of atoms. We know little about it formally. However, as long as the electrons and nuclei of atoms have space between them, where the electrons are not riding directly on the nuclei of their atoms, there is ether in between them.

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EDIT: And, of course, in any "empty" space between the atoms.
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley

And.. now I have to Google this to learn what you guys are talking about, XD.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy

All right, all right. Airy's Failure fails because nobody takes into account that the ether penetrates right down through the center of the earth. The density of the water related to the air makes such a tiny amount of difference with regard to light traveling through the ether from great distances, that the failure of Airy's Failure is due to the ether effect acting throughout all mediums, even solid earth. Only within the center of a black hole or some similarly dense object is there enough ether loss that something like Aries Failure might be proven true.

Smiley
sr. member
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Yes, this is all true but also it is a little known fact that daylight saving time is the primary cause of global warming, it's that extra hour of sun beating down on the earth every day.

Methane gas (from cows) is a huge one as well. EAT MOAR COWS! SAVE THE WORLD!
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Yes, this is all true but also it is a little known fact that daylight saving time is the primary cause of global warming, it's that extra hour of sun beating down on the earth every day.
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?

What does sex have to do with it?    Cheesy
legendary
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Next thing we know:

"US president Donald Trump rejects newborn babies because they may "Drain the Air"..."

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
sr. member
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US Town Rejects Solar Panels Because They May “Drain The Sun” Or Prevent Plants From Growing





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Oddly, the town of Woodland, North Carolina recently voted to reject the construction of a solar farm in the area, because residents were afraid of the potential consequences. Some residents showed up to town meetings insisting that not enough was known about solar technology and that solar panels could lead to numerous problems, including the potential draining of the sun.

One retired teacher who should have known better arrived at the meeting and suggested that having solar panels in the area could prevent plants from growing, because there would be less sun energy for photosynthesis. She said that areas that were near solar panels were not as green as other areas because the plants were getting less sunlight. Going on, she blamed solar panels for increased levels of cancer in the region.

"I want to know what's going to happen, I want information. Enough is enough. I don't see the profit for the town. People come with hidden agendas. Until we can find if anything is going to damage this community, we shouldn't sign any paper," she said, according to the Roanoke Herald.

Another resident argued that that panels would suck up all the energy from the sun and prevent businesses from developing in the area.





Read more at http://www.trueactivist.com/us-town-rejects-solar-panels-because-they-may-drain-the-sun-or-prevent-plants-from-growing/.


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Wow we live in such a world of idiots who make the stupidest claims you could think of.

Makes you wonder if they really believe this stuff or they actually have another financial incentive to spout that nonsense.

Energy is a zero-sum game. Energy is neither created nor destroyed. So technically, they *are* draining it from the sun. Though I still don't agree that it's something to worry about.
legendary
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Answer my fucking question how does the "Airy's Failure" fail?
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