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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 21, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

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Though, there is a good reason even Elon Musk called that survey/poll to be highly lacking of scientific base, it is because people who are more likely to vote for Donald Trump are followers of Elon Musk on Twitter, not even mentioning the polls does not exclude people living outside of the USA and not having the right to actually vote in November.
So this poll it will likely be used by some Trump followers as some kind of proof of the massive support Trump is having, while in reality, there is no validity on it.
Also, even though Elon is obviously a person with much influence and has lately become a popular culture character, he would need to do more than that in order to move the odds of either Kamala Harris or Trump in this high liquidity betting market.
He has already openly endorsed Trump, by the way, so no much left he could do.

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Quote from: alani123 on August 17, 2024, 04:35:47 PM

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This is interesting and one will have a number of choice or varieties to cast vote on, i know quite alright that some gamblers will definitely vote on the high odds and risk it because they believe that nothing else can not happen in this life, you cant imagine if some are taking it up that Michelle Obama is winning, when they know that the race in between Kamala and Trump.

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Source: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1826015426658415033?t=86EvIbfo8TRxKQjikGGZ4A&s=19

Elon Musk made a poll yesterday on X and majority of the voters chose Trump over Kamala Harris. Maybe the odds at Stake will be different after this poll is concluded. I’m not in the US therefore I cannot be certain how the people living there feel about the two candidates. I saw that the Obamas endorsed Kamala Harris with Michelle Obama leading the calvary. I think they are trying hard to make Kamala Harris look good in the eyes of the public. If I was voting, I would not vote based on race or gender, the most competent person will get my vote.

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Quote from: stompix on August 21, 2024, 10:12:03 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 20, 2024, 05:55:24 PM

It's amusing to see someone believe in the media propaganda. Maybe you also believe that Biden is "in good shape" as the media has been saying for so long? Hm? Or maybe you remember the story with "there is no inflation" and then "it's transitional" and then "it's good" or "it's all greedy corporations"?
And what do you say about the fact that Harris literally never won votes anywhere? She was even appointed as the Democratic candidate, not elected, Biden won the election.

So you have talked to every single american out there and nobody is going to vote for Harris, is that what they've told you? Some people live in their own world, just because they hang in groups with same preferences, they only read news they like, only follow accounts they like they start to believe the world they imagine is real when it's just a tiny fraction, not even relevant to the bigger picture.

But be is as you say, since you are ao sure nobody is going to vote for Harris, does that mean she will also lose Cali and NY? Tongue

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Yes, I am familiar with the concept of an information bubble and we all live in our own bubbles, it is true. But do you really think that we have no connection with reality at all?

As I understand it, in your bubble, “future” elections in some specific regions/cities is an argument? Grin

And it doesn't bother you at all that Harris was appointed as a candidate and not elected? Seriously?

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 20, 2024, 05:55:24 PM

Quote from: stompix on August 20, 2024, 02:06:21 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 18, 2024, 04:41:06 PM

The very fact that Harris is quoted at the same level as Trump is complete nonsense.

And why is that?
It is quite amusing to see how some think they know the preferences of 200 million people as they would have talked to each of them about the elections.
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It's amusing to see someone believe in the media propaganda. Maybe you also believe that Biden is "in good shape" as the media has been saying for so long? Hm? Or maybe you remember the story with "there is no inflation" and then "it's transitional" and then "it's good" or "it's all greedy corporations"?
And what do you say about the fact that Harris literally never won votes anywhere? She was even appointed as the Democratic candidate, not elected, Biden won the election.

So you have talked to every single american out there and nobody is going to vote for Harris, is that what they've told you? Some people live in their own world, just because they hang in groups with same preferences, they only read news they like, only follow accounts they like they start to believe the world they imagine is real when it's just a tiny fraction, not even relevant to the bigger picture.

But be is as you say, since you are ao sure nobody is going to vote for Harris, does that mean she will also lose Cali and NY? Tongue

Quote from: alani123 on August 21, 2024, 05:37:51 AM

Bombshell! Now RFK's running mate stated they are considering dropping out of the race to aid Trump's campaign.

This is going to be tremendous help to Trump if it truly happens. Trump has a hard time this year in a few battleground states and already it was a very tight race against Biden, not it's going to be even harder.

RFK's voters were pledging their votes because they didn't like any of the other candidates or because they by default hated the two party system so this was their way of protesting, they won't suddenly all go pro Trump, maybe a slight majority but definetly not all of them.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 21, 2024, 06:04:58 AM

Quote from: alani123 on August 21, 2024, 05:37:51 AM

With RFK's support trump could secure the few thousands of votes needed to win states like Georgia that are complete tossup. The question is if it'll happen or not. It all depends on RFK himself and we haven't heard from the man himself. Suddently Trump's chances look much better though. Those that locked bets on Kamala below 2.0 (like me) are a bit unlucky because if this decision materializes Trump has better chances to win which has already been reflected in the odds.

Lol! What makes you think that RFK Jr already pledged his support for Trump? They are still considering it and they are in talks with both sides. Also, even if he actually ends up backing either side, they will probably just get a small boost or no boost at all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/21/politics/cash-advantage-harris-trump-rfk-filings

RFK Jr's campaign fizzled out due to funds issues primarily which is why him and his team might not be able to help Trump or Harris in a big way financially implying that Harris's cash advantage over Trump will stay intact.

RFK's support to trump is not a given. As I said we have to wait for what the man himself states publicly and not just his running mate says they are considering.

But speaking on this hypothetical, even the consideration is a good development for Trump's campaign. It clearly shows that RFK understands his campaign is more about sending a message rather than holding realistic chances towards the presidency. So he will pledge his support if he can get a candidate to secure his ideas will be heard when making policy. This could be either Kamala or Trump.

But RFK's campaign considering they're closer to Trump can only be good for Trump, as it was already shown in the odds changing since yesterday.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 21, 2024, 06:04:58 AM

Lol! What makes you think that RFK Jr already pledged his support for Trump? They are still considering it and they are in talks with both sides. Also, even if he actually ends up backing either side, they will probably just get a small boost or no boost at all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/21/politics/cash-advantage-harris-trump-rfk-filings

RFK Jr's campaign fizzled out due to funds issues primarily which is why him and his team might not be able to help Trump or Harris in a big way financially implying that Harris's cash advantage over Trump will stay intact.

It is possible, actually. At this point, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supporters are accusing Democrats of sabotaging their campaign. And a lot of them think that they don't have enough support to win electoral college votes in any of the states. Recent opinion polls point to a slide in support level for Kennedy in most of the swing states. Given this, I won't be surprised if Kennedy asks his followers to vote for Trump (obviously he will try for a deal with Trump, and may get something in return).

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Quote from: avp2306 on August 20, 2024, 05:23:24 AM

I don't also think that Trump supporter is nervous now since I see them doing fine and didn't care about the polls release by the mainstream.

The problem with Trump supporters is that they are people who are easily fooled. They don't think before they act. They are against the press, they constantly attack the press and they believe everything Trump says and does. Take, for example, the things Trump said about the war against Russia; they are nonsense. He is more in favor of Russia and that is not a good thing. If Trump sat down, he would start being very careful with every word he says, he wouldn't side with Putin, he wouldn't get involved in controversies. I think he could easily be elected president. But the guy is constantly in controversy; in the last two weeks he has already had two controversies.

Quote from: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/16/politics/trump-medal-of-honor/index.html

Trump says civilian award is ‘much better’ than Medal of Honor

source: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/16/politics/trump-medal-of-honor/index.html

Quote from: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/19/politics/donald-trump-taylor-swift-ai/index.html

Trump posts fake AI images of Taylor Swift and Swifties, falsely suggesting he has the singer’s support

source: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/19/politics/donald-trump-taylor-swift-ai/index.html

He doesn't need an opponent to bring him down, he's bringing himself down. And his supporters have an incredible tendency.

Example in relation to the polls:

When the TV channels say that Trump is ahead of his opponent in the polls = Trump's supporters say it's true and celebrate.

When the TV channels say that Trump is behind his opponent in the polls = Trump's supporters say it's fake news and criticize the TV channels, they start accusing the TV channels of being paid by the opponent.

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Quote from: alani123 on August 21, 2024, 05:37:51 AM

With RFK's support trump could secure the few thousands of votes needed to win states like Georgia that are complete tossup. The question is if it'll happen or not. It all depends on RFK himself and we haven't heard from the man himself. Suddently Trump's chances look much better though. Those that locked bets on Kamala below 2.0 (like me) are a bit unlucky because if this decision materializes Trump has better chances to win which has already been reflected in the odds.

Lol! What makes you think that RFK Jr already pledged his support for Trump? They are still considering it and they are in talks with both sides. Also, even if he actually ends up backing either side, they will probably just get a small boost or no boost at all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/21/politics/cash-advantage-harris-trump-rfk-filings

RFK Jr's campaign fizzled out due to funds issues primarily which is why him and his team might not be able to help Trump or Harris in a big way financially implying that Harris's cash advantage over Trump will stay intact.

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Quote from: alani123 on August 21, 2024, 05:37:51 AM

Bombshell! Now RFK's running mate stated they are considering dropping out of the race to aid Trump's campaign.

This is going to be tremendous help to Trump if it truly happens. Trump has a hard time this year in a few battleground states and already it was a very tight race against Biden, not it's going to be even harder.

With RFK's support trump could secure the few thousands of votes needed to win states like Georgia that are complete tossup. The question is if it'll happen or not. It all depends on RFK himself and we haven't heard from the man himself. Suddently Trump's chances look much better though. Those that locked bets on Kamala below 2.0 (like me) are a bit unlucky because if this decision materializes Trump has better chances to win which has already been reflected in the odds.

Good action by a gentleman to step down when he think he don't have any chance to win. And this is really a great help on Trump's side especially if they announce that they have full support of Trump's candidacy since their voters will be additional fire power to Trumps dominance in this upcoming election. Now with those support Trump get we can see that he's chances to win became more better. Although there are survey says he is underdog in this election but I guess that doesn't tell everything. Media is known to be manipulator and we can always see that Trump is always relevant in the discussions so most likely he have the real pulse and most likely have great chance to win against Harris.

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Bombshell! Now RFK's running mate stated they are considering dropping out of the race to aid Trump's campaign.

This is going to be tremendous help to Trump if it truly happens. Trump has a hard time this year in a few battleground states and already it was a very tight race against Biden, not it's going to be even harder.

With RFK's support trump could secure the few thousands of votes needed to win states like Georgia that are complete tossup. The question is if it'll happen or not. It all depends on RFK himself and we haven't heard from the man himself. Suddently Trump's chances look much better though. Those that locked bets on Kamala below 2.0 (like me) are a bit unlucky because if this decision materializes Trump has better chances to win which has already been reflected in the odds.

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Quote from: stompix on August 20, 2024, 02:06:21 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 18, 2024, 04:41:06 PM

The very fact that Harris is quoted at the same level as Trump is complete nonsense.

And why is that?
It is quite amusing to see how some think they know the preferences of 200 million people as they would have talked to each of them about the elections.
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It's amusing to see someone believe in the media propaganda. Maybe you also believe that Biden is "in good shape" as the media has been saying for so long? Hm? Or maybe you remember the story with "there is no inflation" and then "it's transitional" and then "it's good" or "it's all greedy corporations"?
And what do you say about the fact that Harris literally never won votes anywhere? She was even appointed as the Democratic candidate, not elected, Biden won the election.

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Quote from: avp2306 on August 20, 2024, 05:23:24 AM

That's how they sell Harris they sensualized this aspect and try to implant some thoughts that there's something good to happen in their country under by a women's care. They try to insert some thoughts that they want to create a history by voting Harris. But hopefully US citizens will not fall in that kind of brain washing and put those people who could really help US to became more powerful.

What the heck are you even on about? The one who is actually getting sensationalised like crazy these days is Trump after his botched assassination attempt by some random dude out of nowhere.

Quote from: avp2306 on August 20, 2024, 05:23:24 AM

We can't deny that Harris is also good presidentiable, but her time is not yet to come and people need Trump its because people think that he can bring impressive changes especially he know how to handle well their country and current agenda on some good topics tackle is really helpful for their citizen. That's why I guess right now I can say that Trump got huge chance to win.

Lmao. That dude was one of the worst presidents in US history which is why the US citizens helped Biden win. Think properly.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 19, 2024, 11:48:21 PM

It would lose her all the republican support she has, considering she started as country singer, and her customers are mostly white woman, we may consider that's a big demographic for her. But she is strong enough, if she does that, we can say it's as good as done because that's a few million people right there, I doubt it would be anything shorter than that.

Good point. Harris's biggest advantage this time around is surprisingly the fact that she is a woman when men are traditionally favoured for the presidential position and there are a lot of women willing to vote for her.

Another thing going for her is her age which settles the whole old age debate convincingly. Trump and his supporters are clearly nervous now. Let's see what happens.

That's how they sell Harris they sensualized this aspect and try to implant some thoughts that there's something good to happen in their country under by a women's care. They try to insert some thoughts that they want to create a history by voting Harris. But hopefully US citizens will not fall in that kind of brain washing and put those people who could really help US to became more powerful.

We can't deny that Harris is also good presidentiable, but her time is not yet to come and people need Trump its because people think that he can bring impressive changes especially he know how to handle well their country and current agenda on some good topics tackle is really helpful for their citizen. That's why I guess right now I can say that Trump got huge chance to win.

I don't also think that Trump supporter is nervous now since I see them doing fine and didn't care about the polls release by the mainstream.

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Really surprised to see names like JD Vance or Hillary Clinton on the list. I wonder if people really bet on them to somehow blindside everyone and becomes another president candidate. Makes me wonder if there are betting options to see which candidate withdraw from the race first, juse like Biden. Anyway, betting on the winning party for each state is probably a better option if people are looking for risky prediction. CMIIW.

Anyway, my social media circle is clearly pushing for a Harris win. There are tons of posts showing how Trump and Vance are problematic and so on. A bit surprised since I don't particularly follow their race. I guess it's understandable if her odds to win increased.

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Quote from: stompix on August 20, 2024, 02:06:21 AM

I'm thinking of throwing the minimum bet at both sides at this moment.

Let's go!

Kamala Harris @ 1.94 odds by the time that I have bet and Trump @ 2.20. This is just another bet and we've got three months left or so, time is fast and there can be a lot of things that can happen between these candidates.

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For $100 both sides look like sure bets too bad this wasn't available a bit earlier when Harris still had 3:1 odds.
270to win shows a score of 226 to 235 with 77 undecided, pretty hard for any candidate to not get at least one of the disputed states and lose more of what they have, the Democrats would have to lose Minnesota and Oregon, and the Republicans Ohio and NC and not win any ...

I'm thinking of throwing the minimum bet at both sides at this moment.

Quote from: KTChampions on August 18, 2024, 04:41:06 PM

The very fact that Harris is quoted at the same level as Trump is complete nonsense.

And why is that?
It is quite amusing to see how some think they know the preferences of 200 million people as they would have talked to each of them about the elections.

Quote from: el kaka22 on August 19, 2024, 11:48:21 PM

Honestly it is looking more and more like it is going to be Kamala Harris that will win it, she has the wind on her back and she is going very strong, I feel like we are going to see her win this election easily without much problem. The reality is that we are going to see Trump get more and more hate, and he can't always end up protecting himself by lying and convincing others.

It won't be a Harris win, it will be a Trump loss if this happens.
That's what some of the guys here don't get, it's not about how many vote for Harris, it's about how many will vote against Trump.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 19, 2024, 11:48:21 PM

It would lose her all the republican support she has, considering she started as country singer, and her customers are mostly white woman, we may consider that's a big demographic for her. But she is strong enough, if she does that, we can say it's as good as done because that's a few million people right there, I doubt it would be anything shorter than that.

Good point. Harris's biggest advantage this time around is surprisingly the fact that she is a woman when men are traditionally favoured for the presidential position and there are a lot of women willing to vote for her.

Another thing going for her is her age which settles the whole old age debate convincingly. Trump and his supporters are clearly nervous now. Let's see what happens.

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Honestly it is looking more and more like it is going to be Kamala Harris that will win it, she has the wind on her back and she is going very strong, I feel like we are going to see her win this election easily without much problem. The reality is that we are going to see Trump get more and more hate, and he can't always end up protecting himself by lying and convincing others.

The most recent one was against Taylor Swift, he saw some AI image of her and thought that she supported him, which is a total lie of course, and this pissed a lot of "Swifties" which means that they may end up rallying together for a voting registration stuff or whatever, or more like they may just end up go out to vote. Imagine if Taylor Swift actually came out and supported Kamala Harris, doubt that will happen but it is not unheard of and I think we can see something like that.

It would lose her all the republican support she has, considering she started as country singer, and her customers are mostly white woman, we may consider that's a big demographic for her. But she is strong enough, if she does that, we can say it's as good as done because that's a few million people right there, I doubt it would be anything shorter than that.

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I think Kamala is a smoke screen, I personally don't care who wins these elections, but DT's @s are still interesting...btw, note that these odds are in several bookmakers competing to capture the "incredible" +2@ for either of the 2 candidates.

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