Will you be alive if it comes true? xD
I can survive on grass. I am eating grass now. I can run long distances. I can operate with full rationality and concentration until extreme stress and sleep deprivation. My very difficult life is preparing me well.
How about you?
USA civilian rebellion will be severe due to our "can do" culturehttp://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/163287#comment-163287As FerFAL says, the people of Argentina are inured to the situation and used to suffering. So, as things go from bad to worse they just hunker down and make the best of it. I fear that in America most people are not prepared for any kind of suffering. Many Americans are pampered and soft and will suffer greatly when a reduced standard of living is forced on them.
There is also the black market currency to consider. In Argentina the black market operates in dollars which retain their value. We Americans will not have another currency to fall back on. It is unlikely that the Euro or any other country's currency will maintain its purchasing power when the dollar crashes.
For the above reasons, I fear that a financial crash will play out in the US rather differently than in Argentina. We will need new and different means to cope.
http://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/163299#comment-163299First, I wanted to thank Fernando and Chris for a helpful review of the state of things in Argentina.
I would give Fernando copious credit for his tireless work on preparing folks with lessons learned from actual life experiences, which is invaluable.
I am glad Ferfal challenges thinking in the preparedness community, because in general, and as readers will know from previous posts, I support the dialectic of having two sides of argument discussed thoroughly and thoughtful.
So in that vein, allow me an opportunity to push back at a few notions and themes that Ferfal presents.
(By the way, I think he is likely correct about most everything he describes, after a very painful transition occurs, and given a modicum of stability in the government and the world in general).
Here are some flaws in his thinking.
To his credit he alludes to differences in Argentina culture and American culture. I have visited Argentina (beautiful country and I met many gracious and highly intelligent Argentinean colleagues during my visit). But I clearly don't understand Argentina like Ferfal does, but I don't think Ferfal understands America like I do.
While humans share so many commonalities, in short, Americans in specific have a very strong independence streak, and will, IMHO, reach a breaking point that will not be pretty (I think all humans have a breaking point, but frankly some cultures value traits highly that Americans place low value on, like submission, getting along, suffering i.e. Russians, over independent living. The motto "live free or die" speaks to this.
Admittedly the liberal big government progressives in America have attempted to beat these values out of our citizens and tried to replace them with collectivism, but it has been with limited success.
The second culture difference is that, how shall I say this delicately, Americans tend to get things done. Especially when presented with a mission. Moon shots, Manhattan projects, Yankee ingenuity, Rosie the Riveter, Iwo Jima, whatever. You can draw your own conclusions about what this means.
Ferfal's point about looting suggests an element of rebellion in Argentina, but that frankly sounds more like criminality than people joining together to make a political point. And in fairness, Fernando didn't describe looting as a political act. I'm just using that as a culture example of response to tyranny and government chaos.
All this leads to the conclusion that if and when things like currency failure occur, I don't think it will be accompanied by an Argentinean shrug of the shoulders e.g. "oh well, we just have to suffer with this Marxist government and cope with another 50% inflation". I believe it will be met with much more reaction.
Again, I love Fernando's points about physical fitness, having multiple skills etc. I just don't think he has any idea how severe an American response to Kirchner-like policies will be when faced with a likely drop in standard of living to true poverty levels.
The issue about the dollar and escaping to another country are off base. In Argentina, Fernando talks at length about how Argentineans escape the destruction of the peso by using dollars as a store of wealth.
May I ask, to which currency will Americans turn when the dollar is destroyed? About the only money left is gold, silver, and hard assets. So dismissing barter so quickly by Fernando seems premature, because Americans will have no other choice for a period of time. Euros, Swiss francs, Yuan?. Don't see that happening. I'm sure a new "dollar" will be introduced, but there will clearly be a transition of some length of time, of some severity.
And after the dollar collapses, the whole world will be "in transition" i.e. in disorder. Will millions of Americans be welcomed with open arms in countries around the world? I don't think so. Maybe the 0.1%, because they can buy their way in. Unless you are in that league, I would not count on it.
http://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/170755#comment-170755Ferfal has a good article "Living in a War Zone", as well as a short podcast, at
http://www.ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/09/living-in-war-zone.html . It is focused on making preps to bug-out ahead of time, in case you ever find yourself in that situation. Apparently his latest book, "Bugging Out and Relocating: When Staying Put is not an Option" came out in June. Here's a short excerpt from the article:
"Given current world events people are becoming increasingly interested in survival in war zones.
I did a lot of research about this topic for my latest book, learning from various events and accounts of what people did to stay alive so I’ll save you a lot of time: Surviving in a war zone is like surviving or living in a burning house or surviving in a sinking boat. There’s no “surviving” inside a burning building, there’s “getting out of there ASAP” to be done. Sure, there are resources that clearly become precious during war such as food, water and medical supplies but it all comes as a far distant second best proposition to actually escaping such disaster unless you want to be reduced to living like an animal and constantly risking getting shot or blown to pieces."