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hero member
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December 26, 2013, 10:37:27 AM
#35
Memorize a simple password in your head 1234BitcoinEater, then memorize the hashing procedure, e.g. SHA256(HEXTOBIN()) then use it as your password.

If you have multiple passwords you could combine multiple one way hashing algorithms and add 1 to the end of your memorized password, then every time you need a new one simply add 1 to it and hash the same way to get a completely different password.

Here's another hare brained scheme for you guys to consider:

- Take out your camera and take a picture.

- Make a hundred billion copies of that picture and stick it everywhere. In USB sticks, DVDs, memory cards. Throw them around the house. Make sure a few tiny memory cards end up behind the sofa like loose change. Even wear one as an amulet around your neck.

- Use the sha256sum of the picture as your password. Very easy to do on *nix

Code:
sha256sum my_not_so_secret_pic.png

- And if you need multiple passwords just append a number:

Code:
echo "1" | cat - my_not_so_secret_pic.png | sha256sum 

Now we can tie our BTC to our testicles, thanks for the great info.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1011
In Satoshi I Trust
December 26, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
#34
my recommendation is USE A PASSWORD that you ALREADY USE ON THINGS
cause if u forget it, it's so long money

lol, and if a hacker gets access to one of your passwords, it's so long money.

best ever  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3612
Merit: 1564
December 26, 2013, 09:14:23 AM
#33
Memorize a simple password in your head 1234BitcoinEater, then memorize the hashing procedure, e.g. SHA256(HEXTOBIN()) then use it as your password.

If you have multiple passwords you could combine multiple one way hashing algorithms and add 1 to the end of your memorized password, then every time you need a new one simply add 1 to it and hash the same way to get a completely different password.

Here's another hare brained scheme for you guys to consider:

- Take out your camera and take a picture.

- Make a hundred billion copies of that picture and stick it everywhere. In USB sticks, DVDs, memory cards. Throw them around the house. Make sure a few tiny memory cards end up behind the sofa like loose change. Even wear one as an amulet around your neck.

- Use the sha256sum of the picture as your password. Very easy to do on *nix

Code:
sha256sum my_not_so_secret_pic.png

- And if you need multiple passwords just append a number:

Code:
echo "1" | cat - my_not_so_secret_pic.png | sha256sum 
hero member
Activity: 740
Merit: 501
December 26, 2013, 08:22:33 AM
#32
Memorize a simple password in your head 1234BitcoinEater, then memorize the hashing procedure, e.g. SHA256(HEXTOBIN()) then use it as your password.

If you have multiple passwords you could combine multiple one way hashing algorithms and add 1 to the end of your memorized password, then every time you need a new one simply add 1 to it and hash the same way to get a completely different password.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
December 26, 2013, 06:57:59 AM
#31
...rather than use another bitcoin address , use a random altcoin address!

Heck , make your own alt coin just to make your own passwords!

Great idea, can't wait for the upcoming alt coin generator
hero member
Activity: 592
Merit: 500
December 26, 2013, 06:54:48 AM
#30
...rather than use another bitcoin address , use a random altcoin address!

Heck , make your own alt coin just to make your own passwords!
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
December 26, 2013, 05:52:36 AM
#29
This is a good idea. Simply use an address as your password, they are random and secure. Plus you can keep it in a list or address book and no one would think it's a password.

And this is the exact reason why I don't put anybody on ignore, whether warranted or not, for you'll never know when they'll share a nugget. As far as I'm concern, it's a genius idea.

And, who's to say you have to use one of your own wallet addresses? And, you could simply generate X addresses solely for password purposes, never funding them.

~TMIBTCITW

EDIT: Upon reading the rest of the comments, I see that there may be some concern for such a practice. Surely, once a wallet address is generated, a character or two or three could be change so that your now new password can no longer be found anywhere on the internet.

For instance 13Lfcc8obgmBDGadoPHu3MSbN4sjSyWWoN (just copied and paste from BC) would become 31Lfcc80bgmBDGad0PHu3MSbN4sjSyWW0N.

When they say security through obscurity, this is what they should mean. Kinda hurt I was on the almost ignored list haha

Ps now that I've hopefully slowed down some thieves with this new idea, don't do it. But switching characters may help as he said. Or hash it eg 165 times
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
December 26, 2013, 01:00:39 AM
#28
There are 2^160 public addresses.  So the thought of a hacker making a rainbow table is not possible.
A public address is not a bad password.  As long as you are generating it with truly random methods.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
December 25, 2013, 09:24:32 PM
#27
A password-password! Why didn't I think of that before! Going to patent this now!

That is as redundant as sha-256ing a sha256ed password. You just created exponentially more encryption collisions to breach your own security, not halved them. (As one might think would be the effect.)

If "DOG" is the password, but encrypted it is "CAT", and double-encrypted it is "FISH"...

Now "FISH" can be found by finding any collision that "DOG" has, which also results in "CAT", which will then result in "FISH". Plus, the collision of "PICKLE", "FROG", "MILKY", which also have matching results for "CAT" which results in "FISH", because they are a collision of a collision. (Plus they have their own large number of collisions for each one of those too.) Thus, exponential answers.

Same with just a simple password that is encrypted. It has collisions, so you can guess the password or the collision, and get in. As opposed to just having a password as an actual password, where there is only ever one solution. (Though, it would have to be a good password, which is larger than any "secure" hash-value. Poof, instant thievery stumped, they will be searching for collisions where collisions never exist.)

P.S. "Great minds think alike"... No one ever said they think correctly.

And to think, everyone has a huge dictionary of pre-found hashes, and possible collisions, sitting right on the bitcoin chain, and all the other alt-chains. Tons of "password results". And uber-computers finding more every day.

So when a wallet-address has a collision, both the original person, and the new person have access to the funds. Start creating tons of addresses, and HOPE there is a collision! Free BTC! No password needed. The network will validate the collision address, just as easily as the original address. Since, by formula, they result in the same answer.
newbie
Activity: 42
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December 25, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
#26
I must say you are genius who came up with such a nice idea of securing password but I guess by sharing it on the forum you have made it less secure as anyone who visited your post shall be looking if a person has two bitcoins or not.
hero member
Activity: 504
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December 25, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
#25
I use "1" as my password on everything... Easy to remember and no-one ever guesses it... they always start hacking at 4 letters/symbols or more...

Great, now I have to change all my passwords!

You'll never guess the one I use next! It's not "2"... don't even try it! I was born at night, but it wasn't last night... It's another number!

This security tip has been provided, without liability, by a security expert from wallmart. Keeping your credit-cards as safe as your mail, since day 1.

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Doesn't use these forums that often.
December 25, 2013, 01:33:39 PM
#24
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Use another bitcoin address private key as your password
FTFY ;P
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 1217
December 25, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
#23
I don't think it is a good idea. How many BTC wallets are there? May be 2 million. If a hacker can use brute force method, using all these 2 million available passwords, then it can be easily cracked.
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 380
December 25, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
#22
use an address as your password
There's something missing here:  namely, context.
I don't see any mention in OP or the entire thread of exactly what you need this password for.
That would help me get my teeth into this idea.  For now, it's just airy speculation.  Let's have a real-world example, something specific.  Then let's examine the pros and cons.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
December 25, 2013, 09:53:29 AM
#21
This is a good idea. Simply use an address as your password, they are random and secure. Plus you can keep it in a list or address book and no one would think it's a password.

And this is the exact reason why I don't put anybody on ignore, whether warranted or not, for you'll never know when they'll share a nugget. As far as I'm concern, it's a genius idea.

And, who's to say you have to use one of your own wallet addresses? And, you could simply generate X addresses solely for password purposes, never funding them.

~TMIBTCITW

EDIT: Upon reading the rest of the comments, I see that there may be some concern for such a practice. Surely, once a wallet address is generated, a character or two or three could be change so that your now new password can no longer be found anywhere on the internet.

For instance 13Lfcc8obgmBDGadoPHu3MSbN4sjSyWWoN (just copied and paste from BC) would become 31Lfcc80bgmBDGad0PHu3MSbN4sjSyWW0N.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
December 24, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
#20
my recommendation is USE A PASSWORD that you ALREADY USE ON THINGS
cause if u forget it, it's so long money

Worst suggestion ever!

bitpop it's a good idea to choose a password.
Nonetheless security through obscurity is not secure enough
and considering you have to store the password somewhere anyway,
this doesn't increase security
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 250
December 24, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
#19
I remember a time when the password was something you could actually remember  Roll Eyes
It's in the name: pass-word.
Why call it a password if it's not a word?

I always thought it was a "word", meaning,  concatenation of characters from a given alphabet.
member
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There be komodo dragons
December 24, 2013, 05:39:22 PM
#18
I remember a time when the password was something you could actually remember  Roll Eyes
It's in the name: pass-word.
Why call it a password if it's not a word?
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
December 24, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
#17
I use part of my vanity address 1234Ff3D19v5JPHfUXw9PBimQc9LGfa6iN. It's also my luggage combination.
full member
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December 24, 2013, 04:15:37 PM
#16
This is a good idea. Simply use an address as your password, they are random and secure. Plus you can keep it in a list or address book and no one would think it's a password.
my recommendation is USE A PASSWORD that you ALREADY USE ON THINGS
cause if u forget it, it's so long money
Block chain as password dictionary. Good idea.

There are funny people around here, I see.

Welcome to Bitcointalk. Enjoy your stay  Cheesy.

Just in case it wasn't clear, I was being sarcastic. Please do not use the blockchain as your password notebook.
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