Topic: Used cars and real estate market very volatile and a lot people will fomo in (Read 289 times)

Just wait until they don't make gas cars anymore and when PE firms now own all the single family homes in the world. I hope it doesn't get to that but at this rate the cars and gas will take a very long time to go completely, but shoot when they do the cars will be considered collectibles and sold at extremely high premiums. W/ the housing rates the way that they are it's definitely a hard time to get in rn ngl.

REIT is good commercial real estate for example QATAR Dubai ...those will make greatest return specially the commercial ones shopping malls.

There is no guessing If you know the markets large instutions invest in btc on 2024 but price not going up much because of they keep it sideways not full bull mode

I guess posts like these are a testament that investment giants are doing a good job of keeping people second-guessing their decision to invest in properties out of fear of market volatility. The average investors keeps waiting and for the right time while the giants take that opportunity to collect real estates.

This is why we should never look buying cars as investment since we cannot get anything with it unless if we gonna use that car for transportation business since for that we can possibly get some nice income thru passenger will rent our car. But its for personal use or to show up your financial status well maybe we cannot get that since each year the value of car decrease so we can't get anything good with that on investment perspective.

But for Real estate I can say that we can get the value of our money here especially if we are in highly urbanized city since for sure that the value of our asset will rise over the time especially it located at prime location since we can really get the best of our money thru investment over the time since we can possibly earn a lot when we sell this asset.

Volatile times are when there are the best investment opportunities. It doesn't really matter if it's stocks, bonds, real estate or crypto currencies. Large changes in price means that some investors are going to lose a lot of money, whereas others are going to make a big gain. The main difference between real estate and other assets is we usually have to use debt to buy a property. Once there are large amounts of debt involved we are stuck with the interest rate for a few years, but that will change eventually  over time with the Fed decisions. The high interest rates are going to turn a lot of new property deals in a loss and there will be some cheap deals to be made for investors with enough capital. It's all about the willingness to take the risk of buying when everybody else is selling and vice versa.

To be fair, used cars (or real estate or any other asset) doesn't really "go up in price" but more like fiat is losing value due to inflation. Which means that a car that worths 10 thousand dollars, being worth 15 thousand dollars right now, doesn't mean that it went up in price, it just means it's the same price but what 10 thousand dollars could buy back then could be bought with 15 thousand dollars today. That's the thing, at the same time a box of eggs may have gone from 10 dollars to 15 dollars as well.

This is why investing has been easy in the last 4 years or so, because things are going up, it's the act of making more money than the fiat value loss that would be the most important thing and many miss that, and used cars won't make you that.

Meh, I'm skeptical of technical analysis of any sort (actually, I'm a non-believer) but it doesn't take all of that TA mumbo-jumbo to realize when people are starting to jump into any market--the only thing you need to see in a chart is an upward trend. 

Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate.  And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points.  People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.

Yep, REITs are great for people like me who don't want the hassle of buying property and paying all of the fees, taxes, and maintenance costs associated with land ownership but want to invest in real estate nonetheless.  And if you're a dividend investor, most of them pay out crazy amounts and some of them pay monthly.  So for those of you who haven't heard of them, do a little research and see if they're for you. 

Same here! I chose real estate as one of my other investments here in our country, as we know that real estate value appreciates from time to time and It is one of the best type of investment here. Just like you, I don't have any plans on buying brand new car and If there's an instances that I'll be needing it in the future, I prefer buying a secondhand one rather than a brand new because I am able to buy much lesser value of a car in a good condition and besides, there's nothing wrong buying 2nd hand items.

Land getting scarce and cards will be switched to electric maybe this the reason the market gonna very volatile. But I think this gonna happen like a year or so in car market, because i do believe that electric car is getting cheaper and charging stations are going everywhere.

and real estate is going to volatile all year around in fact REIT and other real estate investment app are going to popping up everywhere and people can start invest in 1$ even tho for young people like me would be very hard to own a house

In my way of thinking real every business needs an experience and active mind because every single field of business is highly volatile. The price regularly goes through changes. Everybody cannot do better business without knowing what to do and i just think that a person in a business of used car will be more profitable as compared to real estate market business.

At start car dealer will gain 10% or less profit or may be sometimes they loss some money but as they become experienced in such field then they will be able to enhance their profitability through used car business. Money and knowledge are compulsory elements which play a bigger role in a successful of businessman.

Yes that's right, it is a crypto asset that is durable, cheap, easy to buy and all activists accept it unlike altcoins which are high risk but not including stable coins, OP mentioned while waiting for the decision to reduce interest rates and see the trend to cars and real estate. interest rate decisions cannot be confirmed for a long period of time and can be possible at any time including a matter of weeks from now, meaning that it can change with the announcement. I think that the asset (usdt) is following the real currency even though it is in the form of crypto digital assets.

Bitcoin is a role model in crypto, which means that if I am aiming for investment, of course saving some part of my portfolio for the long term is a good choice. But for temporary funds that are very liquid and even a matter of hours ahead and will sell it better in the form of usdt, just adding to the used car business and real estate, all types of investments are good, but for me it can be grouped into several parts and my future planning:

1.Very important and very easy to liquidate (usdt crypto)
2.Important and some local payment acceptance (used vehicles)
3.Large-value assets that match function, price and price competition (real estate and property)
4.Small-medium value assets with local transactions (gold and precious metals)

When it comes to advantages all of these assets are not about being fast and durable or popular, it is our certainty in choosing but if you plan and own all of them, it's great. While waiting for interest rates to normalize, perhaps. 

real estate investment is good when the population density is high everyone is looking for a housing and if we have one for rent then we will get passive income other than that the value of the land kept on increasing, but if its in the region where population density is kinda low then having land will become liability if not taken advantage for agricultural or anything that could utilize the lands after all the land price would just stagnate meanwhile used cards more likely gonna be still selling at region with low population density. this is why in investing we should know before hand all the thing that we gonna invest after all every region differ in what judged to be valuable and regardless of the region i still think that owning both of them still a good thing not necessarily to become an investment but more of to become a posession and basic needs.
however with the presence of cryptocurrency investment that linearly growing i just think that i just better off investing in crypto like bitcoin.

I believe that real estate is relatively safe because you can rent it out and always will be, unless there's war, or the property gets damaged somehow.

Let's say you have money in a bank. That's going to generate a loss even if the bank offers you decent interest because that interest will always be lower than inflation.
If you buy a house and rent it out it will pay for itself. Even if you offer it 50% below the market price it's still going to cover all the bills and generate a profit, even if the property doesn't appreciate in value. That said, every physical property will appreciate as long as it's not damaged or vandalized because the government prints money. As long as they print everything will be priced higher and we know they can't stop printing because that's what Keynes had taught them to do.

Housing market certainly is at high and there is a possibility that we see a crash from there. There are houses that are priced at high but if the owners of it want to sell it quicker, they have to decrease from the asking price. That's common but that's how the market in real estate nowadays. People wouldn't think of buying real estate now because they're so expensive.

It differs where you're located. There are cars that are appreciating but they're like rare cars and limited edition, the collectibles. I'm not into the 2nd hand cars but that's what at least I know of.

While that is true but this differs from the location. No doubt about real estates that are found in good locations.

I don't know which side the used cars and the real estate became volatile. My understanding and knowledge is that if the value of a brand new car decreases over time, what about used cars, they are even lower and we do not yet know how many problems there are with secondhand cars.

But it's the opposite of real estate, where as time passes, its value increases. So, it means that it is better to use investment in real estate at any time and depending on the place you will buy real estate.

Real estate investment is still profitable here in my place that is why it is my second choice of investment aside from Bitcoin and precious metals. I personally don't like cars because of the fact that it is undoubtedly a liability.

I don't understand why you put Cars in this list together with real estate and bond market. The other two are investment but Car is not, Car could be a used as a productive tool, but a certain thing is that Car is liability. You need to spend more money on your car for gas and maintenance. And most of the time if you own a generic car, the price will keep declining.

While real-estate and bond is an investment, those two can gain value.

I know that the global market is interconnected but some sector of the economy has relative experience based on different country. The Chinese real estate market is in a mess because of bad debt and constant population decline. In my country, the real estate market is flourishing especially in cities. The real estate sector is experiencing this boast because of increasing population and rural-urban migration.

The used car market is also a prosperous sector in my country because the majority of the population of my country depends on used cars. Due to the low standard of living most people cannot afford brand-new cars. So investing in the used car business is not a bad idea for people who have experience in the business. So I accept the fact that we cannot generalise about these two sectors because every country has different experiences.

Is it advisable to hold a centralised coin for a long time? It would have been better to keep Bitcoin for a long time because it is decentralized which makes it more secure.  

Simply put, markets are changing, and your analysis is accurate. Do not oversimplify. A fed rate cut might impact market liquidity and investor feelings, not simply hope. People are eyeing secondhand automobiles and real estate like golden goose, but it's a high-risk endeavor with uncertain rules. Your timescale for a real estate and car bull market may be too optimistic. Due to global economic uncertainty and changing consumer behavior, market dynamics are more complex than ever.

Next, a "deadcat bounce" in real estate is good but controversial. It signals a short turnaround, but it could be the start of a longer downturn. Overconfidence may blindside people, especially in real estate. But let's not ignore smart investors who are positioned themselves for the long term. These players know that diversifying assets and techniques is vital to survival. Your predicted shakeout and liquidation will happen, but it's not the conclusion. A filter separates wheat from chaff. The smart investor sees turbulence as an opportunity. Cash flow rules in this disorder.