Cars are pretty much almost back to normal. You go to many dealer lots and they are full of cars, many of them nowhere to park and some are parked on the grass. Unfortunately prices are nowhere near 2019 and who knows if it will ever be but at least you can try and haggle somewhat.
Real estate is a different story. Due to immigration and high interest rates, supply is low. Since the supply of housing is low the prices are staying high. And people are still paying these prices. Until they build houses faster I don’t see it improving anytime soon.
Topic: Used cars and real estate market very volatile and a lot people will fomo in (Read 463 times)
May 31, 2024, 11:53:06 PM
May 31, 2024, 05:18:25 PM
Real estate business is a life time business that will be making you to be profitable, which is the reason some people use to add to their BTC business.
I agree, real estate is a business in a life time. You'd see the perfect example with Mcdonalds. As they say, they're not running their actual sales through their burgers but with the land that their franchisees are renting. So, that's passive income and asset for them and franchise profit. As for the used cars, I don't see that this is going to take a while for them to drop in prices. With real estate, it's interesting that there's an actual bubble now in the market IMHO but it will collapse soon and these houses that can't be bought will be forced to drop their prices.
May 31, 2024, 04:10:33 PM
Quote from: 0t3p0t
Real estate investment is still profitable here in my place that is why it is my second choice of investment aside from Bitcoin and precious metals. I personally don't like cars because of the fact that it is undoubtedly a liability.
If you add Real estate business to your BTC business, it will not be hard for you to become a wealthy person in your society, because Real estate business use to bring big money which you can store them in BTC to continue multiple in your wallet. But, don't forget that real estate business require big money before you can start the business, but you will not regret when you get a good location to establish the business and within some years, you will begin to earn big profits that will make other people to know that you have arrived financially.
Real estate business is a life time business that will be making you to be profitable, which is the reason some people use to add to their BTC business.
no matter what.
May 31, 2024, 03:35:13 PM
Everybody waiting for fed rate cut like new hope.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now
Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.
Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now
Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.
Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.
Nobody with a brain is dropping money into cars, unless your career is as a car dealership - this market is incredibly saturated and the margins are relatively thin in all areas. The longer you hold on to the car, you are in most cases guaranteed to lose money, unless you're talking about a very niche area where you hope certain cars become collectible. Property has historically and will in to the future always hold a good value, which is likely to appreciate too. However you need to be careful with real estate, because lots of people who buy at the top of the market can face 5-10 years before their asset comes back to the value they paid for it, if there is any sort of recession affecting house prices.
May 31, 2024, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: 0t3p0t
Real estate investment is still profitable here in my place that is why it is my second choice of investment aside from Bitcoin and precious metals. I personally don't like cars because of the fact that it is undoubtedly a liability.
If you add Real estate business to your BTC business, it will not be hard for you to become a wealthy person in your society, because Real estate business use to bring big money which you can store them in BTC to continue multiple in your wallet. But, don't forget that real estate business require big money before you can start the business, but you will not regret when you get a good location to establish the business and within some years, you will begin to earn big profits that will make other people to know that you have arrived financially.
Real estate business is a life time business that will be making you to be profitable, which is the reason some people use to add to their BTC business.
May 30, 2024, 07:48:57 AM
The longer you hold on to the car, you are in most cases guaranteed to lose money, unless you're talking about a very niche area where you hope certain cars become collectible.
If you bought a car from a non-luxury brand, most likely its parts and components will get older and be considered less valuable or appealing than newer models. That is why car is something that not really a lot of people buy in hopes of selling it for a higher price someday. Mostly it is purchased for convenience and a little attraction I would say.However if you look into luxury car brands like ferrari, mclaren or mercedes benz, their old cars or vintage cars are considered iconic and legendary. Even if their performance does not compare anymore with newer cars they are still priced quite at a high price.
May 29, 2024, 02:57:46 PM
Everybody waiting for fed rate cut like new hope.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now
Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.
Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.
A lot people will fomo in to used cars and real estate market.
But the estimated real bull market for real estate and cars will be about 2027-2028.
Until then will be very volatile market (long. wicks short wicks) a lot real estate investors and car dealers will be liqutated out of business.
If real estate will be on chart then we are at "deadcat bounce" now
Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.
Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.
Nobody with a brain is dropping money into cars, unless your career is as a car dealership - this market is incredibly saturated and the margins are relatively thin in all areas. The longer you hold on to the car, you are in most cases guaranteed to lose money, unless you're talking about a very niche area where you hope certain cars become collectible. Property has historically and will in to the future always hold a good value, which is likely to appreciate too. However you need to be careful with real estate, because lots of people who buy at the top of the market can face 5-10 years before their asset comes back to the value they paid for it, if there is any sort of recession affecting house prices.
May 29, 2024, 03:08:50 AM
It is very difficult to generalize about the used car and real estate market. There are different dynamics from country to country... If we focus on the FED's interest rate decision and establish a correlation between the FED and the stock markets, we can get more accurate results. In order to comment on the used car and real estate market, we need to analyze these sectors and current conditions very well... This year the FED will give the green light for a rate cut in 2025. I try to take my guard on this...
May 28, 2024, 06:36:48 PM
based on current findings there are several factors that influence the market value of real estate in terms of sales, the location factor itself is the most important thing at the moment and the price is increasingly expensive depending on whether it is strategically located or not, the location in the urban center is also included, it seems like used property like cars are currently being sought after by the lower middle class because they are currently prioritizing needs which are the current trend, I think everything is still under control the for moment. 
January 07, 2024, 02:42:24 PM
Just wait until they don't make gas cars anymore and when PE firms now own all the single family homes in the world. I hope it doesn't get to that but at this rate the cars and gas will take a very long time to go completely, but shoot when they do the cars will be considered collectibles and sold at extremely high premiums. W/ the housing rates the way that they are it's definitely a hard time to get in rn ngl.
January 05, 2024, 03:27:08 PM
Meh, I'm skeptical of technical analysis of any sort (actually, I'm a non-believer) but it doesn't take all of that TA mumbo-jumbo to realize when people are starting to jump into any market--the only thing you need to see in a chart is an upward trend.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
in fact REIT and other real estate investment app are going to popping up everywhere and people can start invest in 1$ even tho for young people like me would be very hard to own a house
Yep, REITs are great for people like me who don't want the hassle of buying property and paying all of the fees, taxes, and maintenance costs associated with land ownership but want to invest in real estate nonetheless. And if you're a dividend investor, most of them pay out crazy amounts and some of them pay monthly. So for those of you who haven't heard of them, do a little research and see if they're for you. REIT is good commercial real estate for example QATAR Dubai ...those will make greatest return specially the commercial ones shopping malls.
January 05, 2024, 03:24:36 PM
I guess posts like these are a testament that investment giants are doing a good job of keeping people second-guessing their decision to invest in properties out of fear of market volatility. The average investors keeps waiting and for the right time while the giants take that opportunity to collect real estates.
There is no guessing If you know the markets large instutions invest in btc on 2024 but price not going up much because of they keep it sideways not full bull mode
December 25, 2023, 12:45:56 AM
I guess posts like these are a testament that investment giants are doing a good job of keeping people second-guessing their decision to invest in properties out of fear of market volatility. The average investors keeps waiting and for the right time while the giants take that opportunity to collect real estates.
December 24, 2023, 05:50:02 PM
Meh, I'm skeptical of technical analysis of any sort (actually, I'm a non-believer) but it doesn't take all of that TA mumbo-jumbo to realize when people are starting to jump into any market--the only thing you need to see in a chart is an upward trend.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
To be fair, used cars (or real estate or any other asset) doesn't really "go up in price" but more like fiat is losing value due to inflation. Which means that a car that worths 10 thousand dollars, being worth 15 thousand dollars right now, doesn't mean that it went up in price, it just means it's the same price but what 10 thousand dollars could buy back then could be bought with 15 thousand dollars today. That's the thing, at the same time a box of eggs may have gone from 10 dollars to 15 dollars as well.Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
This is why investing has been easy in the last 4 years or so, because things are going up, it's the act of making more money than the fiat value loss that would be the most important thing and many miss that, and used cars won't make you that.
This is why we should never look buying cars as investment since we cannot get anything with it unless if we gonna use that car for transportation business since for that we can possibly get some nice income thru passenger will rent our car. But its for personal use or to show up your financial status well maybe we cannot get that since each year the value of car decrease so we can't get anything good with that on investment perspective.
But for Real estate I can say that we can get the value of our money here especially if we are in highly urbanized city since for sure that the value of our asset will rise over the time especially it located at prime location since we can really get the best of our money thru investment over the time since we can possibly earn a lot when we sell this asset.
December 24, 2023, 03:44:52 PM
Now it's very difficult to understood because assets will not move correlated together.
We gona see one of the biggest shake out + liqutation of capital.
Cars specially used cars + real estate+bond market+sp500 Will be very volatile.
Now many people taking those assets for granted they are confident specially real estate and that's how many will lose money because all the guards are down.
Don't take my words as truth If you can't connect the same dots together in your own mind.
Volatile times are when there are the best investment opportunities. It doesn't really matter if it's stocks, bonds, real estate or crypto currencies. Large changes in price means that some investors are going to lose a lot of money, whereas others are going to make a big gain. The main difference between real estate and other assets is we usually have to use debt to buy a property. Once there are large amounts of debt involved we are stuck with the interest rate for a few years, but that will change eventually over time with the Fed decisions. The high interest rates are going to turn a lot of new property deals in a loss and there will be some cheap deals to be made for investors with enough capital. It's all about the willingness to take the risk of buying when everybody else is selling and vice versa.
December 23, 2023, 04:18:05 AM
Meh, I'm skeptical of technical analysis of any sort (actually, I'm a non-believer) but it doesn't take all of that TA mumbo-jumbo to realize when people are starting to jump into any market--the only thing you need to see in a chart is an upward trend.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
To be fair, used cars (or real estate or any other asset) doesn't really "go up in price" but more like fiat is losing value due to inflation. Which means that a car that worths 10 thousand dollars, being worth 15 thousand dollars right now, doesn't mean that it went up in price, it just means it's the same price but what 10 thousand dollars could buy back then could be bought with 15 thousand dollars today. That's the thing, at the same time a box of eggs may have gone from 10 dollars to 15 dollars as well.Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
This is why investing has been easy in the last 4 years or so, because things are going up, it's the act of making more money than the fiat value loss that would be the most important thing and many miss that, and used cars won't make you that.
December 22, 2023, 06:46:04 AM
Meh, I'm skeptical of technical analysis of any sort (actually, I'm a non-believer) but it doesn't take all of that TA mumbo-jumbo to realize when people are starting to jump into any market--the only thing you need to see in a chart is an upward trend.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
Used cars have been going up in price for quite some time if I'm not mistaken, as has real estate. And Christ, it's become so expensive to even rent an apartment I'm surprised the number of homeless people hasn't spiked hundreds of percentage points. People who own real estate and rent it out must be making a killing.
in fact REIT and other real estate investment app are going to popping up everywhere and people can start invest in 1$ even tho for young people like me would be very hard to own a house
Yep, REITs are great for people like me who don't want the hassle of buying property and paying all of the fees, taxes, and maintenance costs associated with land ownership but want to invest in real estate nonetheless. And if you're a dividend investor, most of them pay out crazy amounts and some of them pay monthly. So for those of you who haven't heard of them, do a little research and see if they're for you. 
December 22, 2023, 06:38:17 AM
Real estate investment is still profitable here in my place that is why it is my second choice of investment aside from Bitcoin and precious metals. I personally don't like cars because of the fact that it is undoubtedly a liability.
Same here! I chose real estate as one of my other investments here in our country, as we know that real estate value appreciates from time to time and It is one of the best type of investment here. Just like you, I don't have any plans on buying brand new car and If there's an instances that I'll be needing it in the future, I prefer buying a secondhand one rather than a brand new because I am able to buy much lesser value of a car in a good condition and besides, there's nothing wrong buying 2nd hand items.
December 21, 2023, 09:39:45 PM
Land getting scarce and cards will be switched to electric maybe this the reason the market gonna very volatile. But I think this gonna happen like a year or so in car market, because i do believe that electric car is getting cheaper and charging stations are going everywhere.
and real estate is going to volatile all year around in fact REIT and other real estate investment app are going to popping up everywhere and people can start invest in 1$ even tho for young people like me would be very hard to own a house
and real estate is going to volatile all year around in fact REIT and other real estate investment app are going to popping up everywhere and people can start invest in 1$ even tho for young people like me would be very hard to own a house
December 21, 2023, 10:29:49 AM
A practical used car dealership is one of a successful business for decades but it needs experience, someone with zero knowledge starts a dealership just because they have money then they will fail but one who has at least 5 years of experience in the field can buy a car for 5K and do some detailing work and sell it for 10K in less than a week.
In my way of thinking real every business needs an experience and active mind because every single field of business is highly volatile. The price regularly goes through changes. Everybody cannot do better business without knowing what to do and i just think that a person in a business of used car will be more profitable as compared to real estate market business.
At start car dealer will gain 10% or less profit or may be sometimes they loss some money but as they become experienced in such field then they will be able to enhance their profitability through used car business. Money and knowledge are compulsory elements which play a bigger role in a successful of businessman.
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