Topic: User @colires scammer (Read 816 times)

User colires just wiped most of his post history.
I'll leave my unedited backup here for reference.

Sorry for the loss, but you should do your due diligence before doing trade to random people instead of blaming the forum of your mistake. The user has big red flag/ lots of negative reviews, even has a warning on his profile and yet you continue to deal with him.

you were never even in the forum, you only joined after you got scammed.

scams aren't moderated here in the forum. the best the members can do is put a negative tag on the profile as a warning to whoever might want to transact with the guy might lose his/her money.

anyway, why were you even making a transaction with that guy? the dude's account has negative tags and a red flag against him. perhaps next time be more cautious when making a transaction with another user.

This guy scammed me to, 200$

Bunq delete all chat conversation, i am out of this scam forum the user reported many times doesn't get banned.

ciao.

Lets bring this up no matter he will never come back with this account.

Woah valorele, long time no see
It is okay, you have 7 more active accounts on the forum, move on with this one.
At least you had great run for stealing pocket money this time.
See you later again

P.S: You fooled everyone with fake info about me, thats fine with me because i do not really care about low key "traders" who put it on me.
They means nothing and they cannot ruin almost 10 years of feedback.
Most of the people who have "powers" here are stupid just like you, using not confirmed google based information.
But that's why you always succeed to scam pocket money ain't you ?

Yes, that's possible, but seeing as how 3 different scammer accounts have made deposits to it, there's a strong likelihood its owned by the same person. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that colires has a long history of being accused of scamming, and this time the accuser happened to have The Full Monty.

Thanks for confessing to lying and doctoring evidence. That makes me doubt anything else you say and show.

This is correct, see Banned services. This is banned for a reason, now you know why.

This scenario would explain why kuznetsov.damir635 willingly breaks forum rules on a risky trade. He made another scam accusation 2 days before this one. I was wondering already if he's really stupid enough to get scammed twice within 2 days.

This is great
Two users both accusing the other of doing the same very common thing on scammer's paradise Telegram.

You cannot just lie when convenient and expect people to believe you later on.

Maybe I missed it, but isn't it possible 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqw paid someone (for whatever reason) to address 366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to instead of owning the Kraken account associated with it?

How do you create an AWS account with $5000 funding? I'm curious: do you use stolen credit cards or something? Bezos didn't become the richest guy by giving away money in bulk.

This sounds plausible to me. I've paid people directly to their exchange account too, and vice versa (for low amounts, in case you're wondering).

I'm only willing to verify things that work through Tor browser, and don't require me to install anything.

This sounds illegal. Words that come to mind are "criminal", "money mule" and "money laundering". Take your pick!

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I know one thing for sure: I wouldn't trust kuznetsov.damir635 or colires at all. But in this case I'm not convinced colires scammed OP.

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@nutildah: I've also seen an instant exchanger that reuses the same deposit address many times. I know Kraken doesn't do that, but what it does mean is that depositing to a certain address doesn't necessarily mean all transactions are connected. I've seen address reuse happen on Bitpay too.

Not necessarily. As I mentioned earlier, the largest incoming TX is like 0.36 BTC / $15k, so he had at least that much at one point but it could be going in circles to make up the 19 BTC total. The whole shtick about a mysterious "exchanger" sounds about as contrived as the rest of the "mentor" story. If he was supposedly trading bank accounts, PayPal accounts etc it doesn't make much sense that he wouldn't be able to cash out his own bitcoins.

A lot of those are transactions sent directly from other exchanges. Maybe some of it is legitimate transacting, and there could be fiat payouts happening somewhere, so its not all profit.


That's true. But there isn't a whole lot of space here for multiple scammers. Competition is pretty fierce, which is why colires and vareole have a combined 1000+ good reports.

Banning the sales of personal accounts would go a long way in disenfranchising him and Rambotnic.

Maybe I just can't (or don't want to) believe that he scammed 19 bitcoins in the last ten months.  


Can't argue with that.  There have been far too many scam accusations against him to brush them all off as retaliation as he's often claimed.  The trouble for me has always been that his accusers haven't elicited much of my sympathy.  This particular segment of this market is full of fraudsters, spammers, and scammers on both sides of the transactions.


Until he shows up with the next alt account.

OK here's the story: They don't actually just know each other. They're brothers. But they're not actually just brothers. They're twins. But they're not actually just twins. They're siamese twins. But they're not actually just siamese twins, they share all of the same body and brain.

That's pretty good, right?


I do. Everything this colires guy says is a lie. This is like the 7th time he's been accused of scamming somebody on the forum under that account. Why wouldn't his new story also be a lie?

Regardless, there's little doubt that colires poses a trading risk by this point.

Here's the exact same scenario back in April.




This address also made deposits to the "exchanger" address.

So regardless of whether or not colires and vareole are the same person, they engage in the same scams and send dirty money to the same idiot exchanger.

Case closed.

I don't doubt that the address in question (366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to) belongs to someone other than colires/vereole.  I am, however doubting the excuses and claims that they are not the same person.  Too many consciences to disregard, including the fact that they used the same "exchanger" who allegedly owns that address.

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On vereole's Telegram group he listed an offer to sell "PayPal funds at %50 off."  This was right after a series of posts complaining about PayPal freezing his funds.  My suspicion is that he's selling the actual account with the locked funds, so that the buyer has the burden of unlocking the funds.  He's also been known to sell PayPal accounts here on the forum.  

There's no way to produce multiple paypal accounts using the same identification (unless it's a legitimate, documented business account) so there's obviously something nefarious going on.  If nothing else the TOS of paypal are being violated by opening multiple accounts, and I highly doubt it's that innocuous.  The accounts are most likely hacked, or created using stolen identification.  Best case scenario; some scammer in Nigeria is creating these accounts with Nigerian identification documents purchased from his neighbors for a nickel.  

The same goes for AWS accounts, Revolute Banking accounts, and almost any other account that these shysters are slinging.    

That's kind of what I was assuming, that the business they were doing together wasn't strictly legitimate--and that's being kind as to my thoughts on that, assuming I were to give colires the benefit of the doubt.  I don't believe for a moment that the two accounts represent two different individuals.

Indeed. 

Could be hacked or otherwise illegitimately obtained PayPal accounts or funds of questionable legality. Probably wouldn't want to use their own bank account with something like that.

Keep in mind that colires is doing "business" here (selling AWS, PayPal, exchange accounts etc) in a way that you can't really do with your real identity.

Eh?  So which is it, my man?

You are lying.  There is too much evidence to the contrary for you to deny it, so consider yourself busted.  Busted.


Ah, this is the old "I don't have time to argue against these allegations" cop-out, which I've seen many scammers and assorted idiots use on bitcointalk when they get called out on some shenanigans and they can't refute the evidence.  That's almost as good as an admission of guilt.

I don't know how people do business in Estonia, but providing someone else with "bank accounts to cash out paypal funds" seems very strange to me, and I don't know if I'd do that for anyone, even if they were a friend--and by your account vareole was someone you met on a forum and worked together doing who knows what.  If you really are two different people (and you're not), I have no doubt you'd be aware that he's a scammer.

Meh, a "mentor" story. I was hoping for a "brother" or maybe a salacious "ex-girlfriend" drama. You should have asked nutildah to write you a better one, he has a way with words.

Trouble is, on page 3 after a slow drip of evidence and contradictory denials it's impossible to tell you apart from a cornered scammer who would say anything after getting caught.

Okay, maybe the more accurate way to describing it is to say that you're selling accounts that were made using stolen, forged, or coerced identification documents.  I wonder how many of those accounts were made using the IDs of Nigerians who've never owned a computer in their life...


That's pretty weird, actually.  If he has multiple exchanges going on at the same time, it would make it difficult to keep track of who's money is who's.  When I first saw the screen shot I thought that maybe it was some automated Telegram bot doing the exchanges, which would make it even weirder that only one address is used.  I'm not doubting your story, just commenting that it's a weird way of doing business.

Whether the address belongs to you or not has become somewhat irrelevant.  It does seem overwhelmingly coincidental that you and vereol have the same phone, use the same wireless network, use the same "exchanger," speak the same language, live in the same country, and redact images the same way.  Far too many coincidences to ignore, in my opinion.

It looks common but combining all those characteristic it may look uncommon IMO, see above picture both of you also come from Estonia too.

Sure, bring here an another user with these criteria (come from Estonia, using red circle, Telia provider, Iphone and white square in Telegram.)

The thing is, the scammer didn't get red tagged before OP trade with him.