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legendary
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February 03, 2017, 05:14:35 AM
@Timelord2067, I remember there was a negative posted by you on hatekakashi or bitcoin31's account that there is a scam accusation against this user and you'll wait till it gets resolved. It was posted on 20th, the same day when I posted it nn those accounts. Now the rating says:

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Three UID's connected: HatakeKakashi u=808431 bitcoin31 u=847476 niall51 u=856010

HatakeKakashi has previously been accused of selling fake accounts, so I wouldn't trust any of these three. http://archive.is/qsQFz#selection-2181.0-2200.44
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The words scam accusation have been removed and this rating was posted on 24th on HatakeKakashi. I may be wrong here.

@Gunthar: When I have proof against any of those users, I'll pm reputed and trusted users like Shorena. Kindly don't quote me again.

Are you sure you're not confusing that post with my previous post on their trust wall?

^OK. The negative rating of Timelord still exists but I can see that he has changed the statement.

I am not sending him any PMs after I left him a negative trust on 24th Jan and neither am interested in getting the scammed money back. I'm not a beggar to beg money from a scammer (since you're accusing me of being an extortionist and get back my scammed money) and I'm the last person to do so.

Bitcoin31 may not look shady to you or anyone else but I know that the user is a probable scammer. I rest my case now.

PS: I know nobody feels bad for a person who gets scammed and I wouldn't even need anyone's sympathy but calling me an extortionist is like WOW! Thanks for the kind words.

This whole topic is a little beyond me - erikalui repeatedly contacted me via PM and in public posts and then also after stating that s/he would wait a week just two days later started a thread to feed the trolls about how butt hurt TM erikalui had been over the "paid to post" incident.

I then posted a follow-up negative trust on their close to bullying tactics and was then again subjected to the same bullying "remove your negative trust" PM's in much the same fashion that e1ghtSpace is now doing.

@erikalui: Your original post that started this all off:

Need help to find the alt of this user: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/akash8871-842024 akash8871

Have reported the scam here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14907229

As mentioned in the above thread, I've already filed a police complaint but have got no feedback from the person. I'll be sending a notice too to Citrus and hence need help to find this person's alt on the forum as I am sure that I am not his first target.

makes no mention of bitcoin31 - nore did I, it is only when Gunthar mentions that UID https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17566122 as being connected to a suggested avenue to explore ( HatakeKakashi ), do you take exception to that user and the rest seems to have been a car crash in the making.
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 04:58:08 AM
just because I join campaign of qtum when there is a free slots and you accuse me of is the alt account? as easy as that you conclude? This is not fair for me!

I reported the apparent connections - it's up to the Qtum campaign managers to decide what action to take.
legendary
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February 03, 2017, 04:34:06 AM
@Timelord2067, I remember there was a negative posted by you on hatekakashi or bitcoin31's account that there is a scam accusation against this user and you'll wait till it gets resolved. It was posted on 20th, the same day when I posted it nn those accounts. Now the rating says:

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Three UID's connected: HatakeKakashi u=808431 bitcoin31 u=847476 niall51 u=856010

HatakeKakashi has previously been accused of selling fake accounts, so I wouldn't trust any of these three. http://archive.is/qsQFz#selection-2181.0-2200.44
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The words scam accusation have been removed and this rating was posted on 24th on HatakeKakashi. I may be wrong here.

@Gunthar: When I have proof against any of those users, I'll pm reputed and trusted users like Shorena. Kindly don't quote me again.


Edit: Reply to the below posts: "I'm done for good from this thread. Don't quote me again please."
newbie
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February 03, 2017, 04:22:00 AM

Regardless of whoever is wanting take responsibility for the campaign (signature/twitter or otherwise), just look at this:


22 more free slot........

these 22 UID's then apply to join: (exactly 22 posts mind you)

24 September 2014, 04:13:10 Date Registered: macro12 u=380809 http://archive.is/X0ysq


then this post happens:


just because I join campaign of qtum when there is a free slots and you accuse me of is the alt account? as easy as that you conclude? This is not fair for me!
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 06:18:54 PM
When you think are heroes ? Your life is full of suspicion, (Defamation). My account is new, because I can not remember the old account password. Am I wrong ?  I've staked my address as first post, just to make sure no more lost account. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16993384

There's no mention of a previous account - which one is it?

My address : 1MinhoWfKCQ8VHvEziAhsQicwK5B68Ggp9
Nice vanity address. Quoted that for you. It's best if you sign it.
Here my sign message, thanks for advice.
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm Minho from BitcoinTalk.org and today's 11/26/2016.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MinhoWfKCQ8VHvEziAhsQicwK5B68Ggp9
G6Y/JFiydp5WABVlLrTkVF9RlxMxrUvVI+MZFBn06WYRNy/U52t3lJoGAW35N3nEJAXsJad9Jmr/IaS7mhZpp20=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE---

Minho++ Read my reply to the next one too:



how could you say that my account is an alt account? any proof that supports your accusation though?i regestered right before the qtum twitter campaign started so how come im an alt?

Your registration date fits into the date range of UID's that have been scamming the Qtum Twitter campaign.  Either your account is bought or, it is just an unfortunate coincidence.

I haven't placed any trust, good, bad or indifferent on your trust wall.



*edit*

webtricks (who also registered in November 2016) sent a similar message via PM.
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
^OK. The negative rating of Timelord2067 still exists but I can see that he has changed the statement.

Sorry, I've just logged on before I go to work (and I can only stay a few minutes) Who's account do you claim I neg-repped and then changed my statement on?

I never posted on akash8871 's trust wall - at all, so I'm confused who you are talking about?

As to the rest, I will read top to bottom after I get home.
hero member
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February 02, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Ok i see you need some more clarifications since obviously you dont get the point

(since you're accusing me of being an extortionist and get back my scammed money)

The user (which might be innocent unless a connection with the scammer is brought to our attention) is acting like someone is trying to extort money to him with the threat of a neg rep, which for the user is very important, so important that he offers you money to delete the rating. I've never accused you to be an extortionist, stop whining

By reading the PM you provided, bitcoin31 is feeling an extortion is going on against him.

I know that the user is a probable scammer.
If you know, it is not probable. If you know you should post proofs he is the one that scammed you so all this confusion can be fixed. You know? Is is probable?

PS: I know nobody feels bad for a person who gets scammed and I wouldn't even need anyone's sympathy but calling me an extortionist is like WOW! Thanks for the kind words.
2 minutes later you posted this accusation, Timelord started his awesome investigation and i followed him in the attempt to fucking spot the one that scammed you and you were so thankfull of our help and now? Now you unthankfull whining kid you regret your uncles?

Wtf man...calm down and post proofs that guy scammed you or really stop trashing.
~Gun
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
^OK. The negative rating of Timelord still exists but I can see that he has changed the statement.

I am not sending him any PMs after I left him a negative trust on 24th Jan and neither am interested in getting the scammed money back. I'm not a beggar to beg money from a scammer (since you're accusing me of being an extortionist and get back my scammed money) and I'm the last person to do so.

Bitcoin31 may not look shady to you or anyone else but I know that the user is a probable scammer. I rest my case now.

PS: I know nobody feels bad for a person who gets scammed and I wouldn't even need anyone's sympathy but calling me an extortionist is like WOW! Thanks for the kind words.
hero member
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February 02, 2017, 03:59:09 PM
There is no connection on the users above and the user Akash8871 that scammed you. By reading the PM you provided, bitcoin31 is feeling an extortion is going on against him. Please if you are accusing bitcoin31 to have scammed you as an alt of Akash8871, that is false. He wanted to send you money to remove your red trust, not because he belief he scammed you. Am i missing something?

But Timelord2067 said that these users are connected to Akash8871 and bitcoin31 wouldn't offer me money to just remove the trust rating unless he was guilty. The fact he is not replying back means that he is guilty of the scam or may be he is not Akash8871 but still it makes him look like a scammer. One night before he was begging me to remove the rating and next day he just disappears.

I don't get the extortion thing. I did not force him to pay me back but he instead said he would pay me back the amount I was scammed of as he believed he won't get paid from his campaign. Don't you find that shady?

I still am not convinced that he was not that Akash but if he is not, then I'm wrong. However, I won't remove that trust rating from his account as he already has proven he is a cheat.

Both Shorena and TimeLord have clarified there is no connection evidences between bitcoin31 and Akash8871 here and here

The user PMd you felt IMO to offer you money as long as the neg rep would be removed. The fact he didnt really send you money might be him rethinking about it. IMO if you persist to ask him the money that another user scammed you (without proving it was actually bitcoin31) might be an extortion attempt under the threat of a neg rep, just to gain back what you been scammed, from whoever.
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 03:45:12 PM
There is no connection on the users above and the user Akash8871 that scammed you. By reading the PM you provided, bitcoin31 is feeling an extortion is going on against him. Please if you are accusing bitcoin31 to have scammed you as an alt of Akash8871, that is false. He wanted to send you money to remove your red trust, not because he belief he scammed you. Am i missing something?

But Timelord2067 said that these users are connected to Akash8871 and bitcoin31 wouldn't offer me money to just remove the trust rating unless he was guilty. The fact he is not replying back means that he is guilty of the scam or may be he is not Akash8871 but still it makes him look like a scammer. One night before he was begging me to remove the rating and next day he just disappears.

I don't get the extortion thing. I did not force him to pay me back but he instead said he would pay me back the amount I was scammed of as he believed he won't get paid from his campaign. Don't you find that shady?

I still am not convinced that he was not that Akash but if he is not, then I'm wrong. However, I won't remove that trust rating from his account as he already has proven he is a cheat.
hero member
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February 02, 2017, 03:34:34 PM
I think I've updated the thread with anything that resembles a reasonable connection to me.

Also he sends coins to himself here https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d35671e9cdf9f1bdecd9cd37ed8bc0eb978be4c135f9ea40bdee4618a766cf14

which is used from this alt
I really want to join
Name: bitcoin31
Rank: member
Bitcoin Address: 375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
Profile UID: 847476
(Archive)

-snip-
I would suggest that you rewrite the whole connection by using the proper format. Currently the connection is spread among several posts. I will PM you.



Hello Lauda. Can I please know why you deleted your rating form bitcoin31's profile? He's a scammer and I've attached his PMs as a proof.

Here it is: http://prntscr.com/dzmmp0
http://prntscr.com/dzmmwu
http://prntscr.com/dzmn77
http://prntscr.com/dzmnh1
http://prntscr.com/dzmnok


He's still active on the forum and doesn't bother to pay back for his scam. He can now go on and scam other users if he does not get tagged by any DT member. Please verify the same. Hope you can reconsider.

There is no connection on the users above and the user Akash8871 that scammed you. By reading the PM you provided, bitcoin31 is feeling an extortion is going on against him. Please if you are accusing bitcoin31 to have scammed you as an alt of Akash8871, that is false. He wanted to send you money to remove your red trust, not because he belief he scammed you. Am i missing something?
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
Hello Lauda. Can I please know why you deleted your rating form bitcoin31's profile? He's a scammer and I've attached his PMs as a proof.

Here it is: http://prntscr.com/dzmmp0
http://prntscr.com/dzmmwu
http://prntscr.com/dzmn77
http://prntscr.com/dzmnh1
http://prntscr.com/dzmnok


He's still active on the forum and doesn't bother to pay back for his scam. He can now go on and scam other users if he does not get tagged by any DT member. Please verify the same. Hope you can reconsider.
Could you please open a separate scam accusation thread for this and send me a link? This thread has been a nightmare lately and it's hard to clearly look at the evidence/facts.
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
I think I've updated the thread with anything that resembles a reasonable connection to me.

Also he sends coins to himself here https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d35671e9cdf9f1bdecd9cd37ed8bc0eb978be4c135f9ea40bdee4618a766cf14

which is used from this alt
I really want to join
Name: bitcoin31
Rank: member
Bitcoin Address: 375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
Profile UID: 847476
(Archive)

-snip-
I would suggest that you rewrite the whole connection by using the proper format. Currently the connection is spread among several posts. I will PM you.



Hello Lauda. Can I please know why you deleted your rating form bitcoin31's profile? He's a scammer and I've attached his PMs as a proof.

Here it is: http://prntscr.com/dzmmp0
http://prntscr.com/dzmmwu
http://prntscr.com/dzmn77
http://prntscr.com/dzmnh1
http://prntscr.com/dzmnok


He's still active on the forum and doesn't bother to pay back for his scam. He can now go on and scam other users if he does not get tagged by any DT member. Please verify the same. Hope you can reconsider.
member
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February 02, 2017, 12:36:18 PM
When you think are heroes ? Your life is full of suspicion, (Defamation). My account is new, because I can not remember the old account password. Am I wrong ?  I've staked my address as first post, just to make sure no more lost account. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16993384
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
Using the proper format for this previous investigation:
-snip-
Added, thank you!

I'm not sure you understand what I've said:  All the UID's listed in red all send their funds to 1A4ka1FaxY2fnYd2D17KUHzfMiWj6ubu9i - the whole lot of them.

(Please read the original post which contains the "proof")
Oh, I am sorry. I have indeed misunderstood it if that is the case. This thread has been a mess lately, i.e. the majority of the posts are some discussions and not posts connecting alt accounts. I will look through it one more time later.
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 08:27:32 AM
Accounts Connected:  - 10% of all QTUM sig campaigners
-snip-
Proof:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17694757 http://archive.is/IpALM

Related Addresses:
YoBit Wallet Address 1A4ka1FaxY2fnYd2D17KUHzfMiWj6ubu9i
You should remember that these online wallets tend to behave in such a fashion. Usually when you see hundreds or thousands of addresses within one wallet, you can assume that the connection won't hold (if it's from some online service). While I don't doubt that they are farmed by looking at what was provided, I tend to avoid listing without conclusive proof.

I'm not sure you understand what I've said:  All the UID's listed in red all send their funds to 1A4ka1FaxY2fnYd2D17KUHzfMiWj6ubu9i - the whole lot of them.

(Please read the original post which contains the "proof")
hero member
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February 02, 2017, 08:27:25 AM
Using the proper format for this previous investigation:

Accounts connected: bitcoin31, hatakekakashi, niall51

Proof:

he sends coins to himself here https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d35671e9cdf9f1bdecd9cd37ed8bc0eb978be4c135f9ea40bdee4618a766cf14

which is used from this alt
I really want to join
Name: bitcoin31
Rank: member
Bitcoin Address: 375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
Profile UID: 847476
(Archive)

same address
Goodluck Qtum,

Username : hatakekakashi
Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720632.new#new
Btc add:   375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
 
I can see the signature campaign now Wink
(Archive)

also:
bitcoin31 used the address 3NGityzUMdjiu4EqQ3XkYrVvGdUD1KSVGa here

Please add me in this campaign. Thanks.

Name : bitcoin31
Rank : Full Member
Current post count : 537
Wear appropriate sig and or avatar : Yes, added.
Joining avatar campaign : yes
BTC address for payment:    3NGityzUMdjiu4EqQ3XkYrVvGdUD1KSVGa

Thanks op!
(Archive)

which leads to this user:
i want to join

User: niall51
Postion to Apply:member
Posts Start: 94
Address: 3NGityzUMdjiu4EqQ3XkYrVvGdUD1KSVGa

thanks.
(Archive)

Addresses
Code:
3NGityzUMdjiu4EqQ3XkYrVvGdUD1KSVGa
375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
17F5ZfMipb4WVgdhvj7KASTKDsLGkrmMyy


legendary
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February 02, 2017, 07:54:31 AM
I think I've updated the thread with anything that resembles a reasonable connection to me.

Also he sends coins to himself here https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d35671e9cdf9f1bdecd9cd37ed8bc0eb978be4c135f9ea40bdee4618a766cf14

which is used from this alt
I really want to join
Name: bitcoin31
Rank: member
Bitcoin Address: 375Y7Jx7WWNsJjUeu7eqXE9zUw9ukkmWKC
Profile UID: 847476
(Archive)

-snip-
I would suggest that you rewrite the whole connection by using the proper format. Currently the connection is spread among several posts. I will PM you.

Accounts Connected:  - 10% of all QTUM sig campaigners
-snip-
Proof:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17694757 http://archive.is/IpALM

Related Addresses:
YoBit Wallet Address 1A4ka1FaxY2fnYd2D17KUHzfMiWj6ubu9i
You should remember that these online wallets tend to behave in such a fashion. Usually when you see hundreds or thousands of addresses within one wallet, you can assume that the connection won't hold (if it's from some online service). While I don't doubt that they are farmed by looking at what was provided, I tend to avoid listing without conclusive proof.
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Nah, not today...
February 02, 2017, 07:47:52 AM
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 07:01:26 AM
~snip~

Hi Timelord, This is Qtum Twitter campaign participant not Qtum Signature Campaign Participants.
I will report this to the owner. And please edit the title details.

Regards.  

Regardless of whoever is wanting take responsibility for the campaign (signature/twitter or otherwise), just look at this:

23 January 2017, 13:31:38 Date Registered:    triat u=946174 http://archive.is/d8RS9


Can I take part in this project?
Twitter account: https://twitter.com/triat1252
Followers :  2405
Twitter audit : https://www.twitteraudit.com/triat1252
Bitcoin Address: 1MAFucsZ8B7TEsXhjTCAJvGKu6kRt62xi5

accepted !

22 more free slot........

these 22 UID's then apply to join: (exactly 22 posts mind you)

14 June 2011, 06:14:03 Date Registered:    bogidu u=23280 http://archive.is/SsKRv
23 September 2014, 23:25:22 Date Registered:    rivoke u=380730 http://archive.is/5ZAxq
24 September 2014, 04:13:10 Date Registered:    macro12 u=380809 http://archive.is/X0ysq
25 September 2014, 21:49:46 Date Registered:    laura77 u=381357 http://archive.is/B4TKL

23 February 2015, 22:02:43 Date Registered:    EgyKing u=455604 http://archive.is/BkXOq
22 March 2015, 21:26:31 Date Registered:    xaker74 u=488319 http://archive.is/cL3SR
07 June 2015, 00:13:17 Date Registered:    March u=520285 http://archive.is/3yl3l
13 June 2015, 00:08:58 Date Registered:    sidodadii u=521958 http://archive.is/yvHQH
13 June 2015, 00:10:42 Date Registered:    badungs u=521959 http://archive.is/tsD3X
13 June 2015, 00:21:31 Date Registered:    yurekaa u=521963 http://archive.is/onON7

15 July 2015, 17:16:51 Date Registered:    Suzan u=534055 http://archive.is/COPG6
18 August 2015, 10:37:05 Date Registered:    barabarian1 u=545893 http://archive.is/1LK6j
28 October 2015, 14:53:12 Date Registered:    xp.rie u=609014 http://archive.is/q0311
10 November 2015, 14:16:05 Date Registered:    Machina_US u=642073 http://archive.is/b17Ww
19 April 2016, 18:28:01 Date Registered:    JustLikeThat u=827651 http://archive.is/UkEdP
08 June 2016, 14:42:09 Date Registered:    yulionoo u=856630 http://archive.is/MFK8q

21 November 2016, 23:25:20 Date Registered:    webtricks u=921974 http://archive.is/L2xwC
26 November 2016, 12:41:33 Date Registered:    Minho++ u=923830 http://archive.is/Ntd0X
28 November 2016, 10:34:08 Date Registered:    meemiinii u=924486 http://archive.is/eS9nl
30 November 2016, 04:05:37 Date Registered:    seven.71 u=925162 http://archive.is/ZA8FD
21 January 2017, 17:25:09 Date Registered:    paijobtcx u=945488 http://archive.is/5ICWa
23 January 2017, 22:03:20 Date Registered:    bojjan u=946355 http://archive.is/HHEc7


then this post happens:


14/23 UID's are painfully obviously alts - more than 50% of those applying to join. (and seriously, what newbie has 500+ twitter followers?)

This is the previous list:

(Teal denotes a possible connection, while purple highlights a strongly probable connection) bearing in mind all the ones listed below except Vovka4 sends funds to the same YoBit Wallet Address 1A4ka1FaxY2fnYd2D17KUHzfMiWj6ubu9i

16 May 2016, 00:33:00 Date Registered:    cacucacok91 http://archive.is/Wyd8g

10 September 2016, 23:34:41 Date Registered:    BitmarkInvest http://archive.is/8wora
11 September 2016, 02:33:27 Date Registered:    Maryshka91 http://archive.is/aUrwU
11 September 2016, 02:17:05 Date Registered:    Dim4ik http://archive.is/AYYOf
11 September 2016, 02:38:09 Date Registered:    Badboy[BTC] http://archive.is/tGlJo
12 September 2016, 21:30:44 Date Registered:    [BTC]Girl http://archive.is/eBXRv
12 September 2016, 21:40:00 Date Registered:    Myra4 http://archive.is/mVP1O
12 September 2016, 21:54:22 Date Registered:    Do4a http://archive.is/aZAy6
12 September 2016, 22:10:56 Date Registered:    Vovka4 http://archive.is/SM1un
12 September 2016, 22:33:59 Date Registered:    Toropen http://archive.is/KKN02
12 September 2016, 22:44:54 Date Registered:    DahonPao http://archive.is/nRAxd
12 September 2016, 23:02:43 Date Registered:    Nazarov http://archive.is/geE5F
13 September 2016, 00:20:15 Date Registered:    Garryk http://archive.is/aynG7
15 November 2016, 00:03:18 Date Registered:    Emin http://archive.is/tW9Xy
16 November 2016, 06:40:36 Date Registered:    CHE}|{OK http://archive.is/Kk04i


The whole QTUM must be drowning in shill & alt accounts.

Refer to the three pages of the thread (FULL) Qtum Social Media Campaign (twitter)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754405.440 http://archive.is/LhbE2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754405.460 http://archive.is/Rw9Jc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754405.480 http://archive.is/Ae7po
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