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Topic: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ? - page 4. (Read 1905 times)

legendary
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Well, there is also something called common sense, not everything has to be excluded by rules.

What I don't understand is how people like you can enjoy that money (even if it's no fortune) and generally have no problem doing this ?! I would feel super bad and couldn't enjoy that money, because a) I don't deserve that money b) it's super unfair towards the other participants who do take the time and effort to make their minimum posts every week, while they surely have better things to do as well and c) I would question myself how low I have gotten, if I need to do this.

But I give you credit for showing up here, I like that.
sr. member
Activity: 958
Merit: 265
If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"
You're paid to do a job, not to hand in your last week's work over and over again.

It's the same work and it's not written you cannot hand over your last week's work.
legendary
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If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"
You're paid to do a job, not to hand in your last week's work over and over again.
sr. member
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I don't get how they are plagiarizing their posts when you can easily post your own thoughts and you might even be able to formulate a better opinion. I despise this kind of people who take advantage that there is only enough moderator to monitor post and steal the words of other people, I don't get why they do it but being in a signature campaign is good thing because you get paid for your opinion and there are people/users that are stealing others words is really saying something about the person.

I didn't plagiarize, just tried to bend the rules because I was not able to complete a minimum(15) Posts.
I found a good loophole in the campaign since there was no rule regarding this and even not on the forum they have such a rule so i thought i should keep it that way rather than writing a post and could focus on other works.

Reason for my tagged is due to the dishonesty displayed by the accused in him trying to abuse the forum and cheating the campaign, the attitude displayed by him is uncalled-for therefore 777coin as a brand on the forum would seize to have anything to do with him.

Ps: SmokerFace added to Blacklist (BrainLess List).
I didn't mean to cheat and i don't think it's cheating since I copy pasted my own posts for 2 weeks and there was no such rule on the forum that you cannot copy paste your own posts neither it was on the campaign.
If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"
member
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I don't get how they are plagiarizing their posts when you can easily post your own thoughts and you might even be able to formulate a better opinion. I despise this kind of people who take advantage that there is only enough moderator to monitor post and steal the words of other people, I don't get why they do it but being in a signature campaign is good thing because you get paid for your opinion and there are people/users that are stealing others words is really saying something about the person.
legendary
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Thanks to all those that took out time to write me in my DM bringing my attention to this situation, thanks to the OP for his observation and also big thanks to those that contributed in making the accusations more valid. I have taken a decision and this is final. The accused will be punished with both him losing his slot in the campaign and also getting a red feedback from me.

Reason for my tagged is due to the dishonesty displayed by the accused in him trying to abuse the forum and cheating the campaign, the attitude displayed by him is uncalled-for therefore 777coin as a brand on the forum would seize to have anything to do with him.

Ps: SmokerFace added to Blacklist (BrainLess List).
legendary
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I think the best thing for any user to do when they prolly get busier IRL and can't make posts on the forum should be to willingly leave their signature campaign, explain to the CM their present situation, so that in the future they could still be accepted by the said manager, and then face squarely whatever is keeping them busy IRL. Periods of inactivity isn't bad, one can always make a return to the forum whenever things clear up, but deleting, and recycling previously paid posts to be paid for it over and again is plain avarice, cheating the campaign/company, playing on the campaign manager as well as everything dishonest.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
Nah, I don't think that's even close to a forum record.  I recall an old-timer (sort of) member getting heat for posting up a storm, and if I recall he'd said he wrote some of his posts in advance or just wrote very quickly or whatever.  Wish I could remember the member's name.
I guess you are referring to taiwww.

19 posts in 2 minutes and 1 second!
taiwww made 1 post in every 6.4 seconds on average.

taiwww's post history (Archived.)
legendary
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making 15 posts in under 7 minutes it's probably new bitcointalk record
Nah, I don't think that's even close to a forum record.  I recall an old-timer (sort of) member getting heat for posting up a storm, and if I recall he'd said he wrote some of his posts in advance or just wrote very quickly or whatever.  Wish I could remember the member's name.

Anyway, as long as campaigns don't go by your total post count this is going to be an easy way for very lazy members to abuse the privilege of being in a campaign and as Leo pointed out it's certainly not unusual behavior--it's just another way for people who lack any motivation to write to continue to get paid for writing.  Crazy.

I would definitely point this out to the campaign manager whenever someone catches a member doing this, because even though it might not be against the rules it certainly is bending them to the point where it might as well be broken.

leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation.
That's not a bad idea either.  It's a good one, in fact.
legendary
Activity: 2408
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I think there was a similar case previously I heard, so it's not new on the forum. This is one of very bad behavior for campaign participants. It's not very easy to detect for a manager, so it would be very helpful if you create a thread and forward the manager to take a look. So that participants would be kicked from the campaign.

Report them to the manager, leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation. The campaign can and should then exclude them and if they so decide could probably flag them.
Yea, I second that. It would be a nice solution for such users. I do not recommend a red tag since there are no such rules on the campaign or forum. But I think the manager would add this rule now and punish is someone caught.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 2037
Report them to the manager, leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation. The campaign can and should then exclude them and if they so decide could probably flag them.

It's shady behaviour and if it's been done while in the same campaign, it could be enough for them to neg/flag the individual as they had already been paid for that post. Unless removed by moderators the post should remain with the accompanied advertising, that's the whole basis of the system.

Edit: I took the above action.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1671
#birdgang
It could be that moderators deleted some of his posts (...)

It would be a huge coincidence, if the mods always delete a good amount of his posts week after week Grin And while they are surely shitposts, they are not the worst shitposts I have ever read, so no reason for the mods to be super strict just with this user.

Tbh I find this super cheeky, even worse than the worst shitposting ever to get paid some bucks from a signature campaign. Because some shitposters might not be bad people afterall or trying to earn easy money with minimalistic efforts - maybe they can't do any better for various reasons and are just looking to support their family/kids with it. But what SmokerFace does, is just plain cheating imo.

Not the first time I've seen a user do this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283810

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this thread and looks like this is no cutting edge technique no more in here^^
legendary
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It could be that moderators deleted some of his posts but making 15 posts in under 7 minutes it's probably new bitcointalk record if we don't count robots and bounty applications.

I can't prove anything but this is probably purchased account that changed ownership in 2018 and he started to write in the end of 2020 after two year break .
It would be interesting to see if he still speaks Pilipinas like he did in 2017, but with google translate I guess anyone can speak foreign languages.
Much harder for him to prove ownership of addresses he used in same year.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18771
Not the first time I've seen a user do this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283810

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that mods will ban users for this behavior. You should alert the campaign manager in question though, as any half decent one will immediately kick this user from their campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1736
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#birdgang
I read this post today and thought, hmm, I already read this post once in this thread, so was thinking about plagiarism:

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But it's not plagiarism. What this user actually does is to delete his old posts in a thread and then reposting them some days later to get paid again for them. Basically the same post was made on February 10th already, but was deleted (by him (?)):

Bitcoin can not end any currency, since bitcoin is as yet very little famous among us. Half of the world doesn't know what actually bitcoins is and those who know about bitcoin accuse it of a scam. Also, how would we purchase bitcoin if the cash gets end?. We won't be able to exchange. For me, dollars or any cash ought not to end. It might make a few issues and hurt the bitcoin itself as well.


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Posted already on Dec 26th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5593/55934821.html
Deleted and reposted on Feb 10th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5631/56313484.html
Deleted and reposted on Feb 17th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5636/56368162.html
And then today reposted again, after deleting the post from Feb 17th.
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