Users should be notified when being put on DT - page 2.

AdolfinWolf

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I hope that this is indeed a new feature in the new forum, along with a shite-load of other notification options (when someone quotes you, "tags" you, etc.)

The fact that the only thing i get a notification from on this forum is when someone PM's me (and that only works 50/50 for me???) is driving me absolutely nuts.

Some features on this forum are also so esoteric (DT, the entire trust debacle...) that i really don't see how any outsiders/newcomers can get a grip on the system in a relatively short amount of time/ at all, especially compared to other forums, (Nulled, HF). The forum could definitely be made much more user-friendly.. Undecided

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 16, 2019, 01:26:00 AM

Perhaps someone should already have a history of leaving accurate ratings before being added to DT....

I definitely agree with this, which is why it used to be kind of a big deal to add new DT2 members. DT1 folks need to be pretty careful about who they include in their trust lists, and I do think only those members who've shown good judgement themselves in leaving feedback should be added to DT2. On the other hand, it seems like the system will correct "errors" fairly quickly, as evidenced by what happened with OP.

Quote from: TECSHARE on March 15, 2019, 09:26:40 PM

It seems senseless to expect people to uphold an agreement they didn't know they made.

It's not an agreement, though it should be and it was in my case when I got added to DT2 in 2018. There should be standards of behavior for DT members, but there really isn't. There never was, and it's even worse now because there are so many new DT2 members.

IdiotCoder

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Quote from: LoyceV on March 16, 2019, 04:28:24 AM

I don't like any religion, but I do believe (pun intended Tongue

) users shouldn't be tagged for their believes, "offering religious services" or their opinion in general.

This is a science forum - religion has no place here.

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Quote from: IdiotCoder on March 15, 2019, 05:11:55 PM

I only have around 150 posts to my name. I am still relatively new. I had no idea whatsoever I was on DT so I was a little more liberal when I left negative feedback - I thought my opinion didn't matter. I found out I WAS DT after I left false feedback (my mistake I removed it). since I am only a member I think it was a little unfair gmaxwell didn't inform me he was putting me on DT, and in the future, people should be informed via PM that they have been put on the list.

Thoughts?

Whether you're on DT or not, be confident and accurate in the feedback you leave for others. If you are unsure it's better to not leave the feedback at all. If you're going to call someone a scammer, be prepared to defend your accusation. Pretend you're the one who will be put on trial to prove the accusation. If you aren't 100% confident the evidence that you or others have presented supports your claims then don't make those claims.

The amount of posts you have should have nothing to do with it, use better judgement and you'll be fine.

LoyceV

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I can make a weekly list of changes to DT2. It will be too much to PM them all, but it could be used to review their trust.

Quote from: IdiotCoder on March 15, 2019, 05:30:17 PM

I made a mistake "Bank transfer" I thought was irreversible and I mistook "irreversible" for PayPal.

Bank transfers can be reversed too, given the right circumstances. That's not why I excluded you, and this tag was removed before I even saw it. But you seem to think that's the only incorrect feedback you left. This one is much worse:

Quote from: mikeywith on March 15, 2019, 04:11:33 PM

3- look at this rating > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2270050 ,he gave a negative rating for someone who offers to pray for people, whether you believe in prayers/God or not, you should not tag someone for that, specially that the accused member does not even ask for money in return for his "prayers".

I don't like any religion, but I do believe (pun intended Tongue

) users shouldn't be tagged for their believes, "offering religious services" or their opinion in general.

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 16, 2019, 01:26:00 AM

Perhaps someone should already have a history of leaving accurate ratings before being added to DT....

And several years of history here to look at before being "trusted"

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First thing is, you shouldn't left false feedback or retaliatory feedback even you are not on DT network. Notify or send PM to DT members possible if add new. Most likely you are added on his custom list before he become DT1. Usually if I add someone my custom list now(after become DT1) then obviously I sent PM. Because perhaps his all feedback's are not accurate of something wrong. But I never add someone whom feedback's I don't trust.

However, don't left feedback if you can't stand strongly against them. Because if you left false rating then they will open thread against you. So you have to prepare yourself to defend it.

Quickseller

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Perhaps someone should already have a history of leaving accurate ratings before being added to DT....

TECSHARE

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I agree, as people rank up in the trust they are considered to have slightly more stringent responsibilities to the forum. It seems senseless to expect people to uphold an agreement they didn't know they made. I think a feature of being able to exclude yourself from the default trust would also be useful for those that do not want to participate, like some have manually asked others to do.

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Quote from: IdiotCoder on March 15, 2019, 05:11:55 PM

I only have around 150 posts to my name. I am still relatively new. I had no idea whatsoever I was on DT so I was a little more liberal when I left negative feedback - I thought my opinion didn't matter. I found out I WAS DT after I left false feedback (my mistake I removed it). since I am only a member I think it was a little unfair gmaxwell didn't inform me he was putting me on DT, and in the future, people should be informed via PM that they have been put on the list.

Thoughts?

I think you used to be DT3 member from a long time, (I know that because I used to keep depth at 4 and your feedback come as trusted for me.) I guess now with new system gmaxwell become DT1 and you become DT2 due to this reason.

It does not make any sense that every week I(any user) sent PM to people explaining that why they are included and why they are excluded.

The Sceptical Chymist

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I agree with you, OP. There was a time in 2017 when hilariousandco actually started a thread in Meta about adding some new members to DT2 via his inclusion(s). It was a big enough deal that he wanted to solicit the opinions of the community, and I do think that any new DT members ought to be made aware of that fact at the very least.

I get that Theymos wants to have a fairly broad DT pool, but there are still some do's and don'ts that members should abide by. I'm not sure how many members end up on DT2 without knowing about it, but OP is one example of that. It probably isn't a huge issue, but OP should have been made aware that he was going to end up on DT.

IdiotCoder

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Quote from: TryNinja on March 15, 2019, 05:23:15 PM

You shouldn’t be leaving false feedbacks to people regardless of whether or not you are on DT, don’t you agree?

I made a mistake "Bank transfer" I thought was irreversible and I mistook "irreversible" for PayPal. I was on my phone during film class. I was listening to the instructor and leaving feedback at the same time. I'll make sure I have full attention to what I am doing when leaving negative feedback.

TryNinja

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You shouldn’t be leaving false feedbacks to people regardless of whether or not you are on DT, don’t you agree?

IdiotCoder

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I only have around 150 posts to my name. I am still relatively new. I had no idea whatsoever I was on DT so I was a little more liberal when I left negative feedback - I thought my opinion didn't matter. I found out I WAS DT after I left false feedback (my mistake I removed it). since I am only a member I think it was a little unfair gmaxwell didn't inform me he was putting me on DT, and in the future, people should be informed via PM that they have been put on the list.

Thoughts?

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