Using bitcoin adddress as email - page 2.

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Quote from: Josef27 on May 28, 2015, 03:11:25 AM

And way more easier to get spammed by e-mail advertiser. Grin

Thats the point you give your bitcoin address so that all the spam goes there and not into your actual email address. Then you move to new bitcoin email along with your new bitcoin address.

Or just create another e-mail account..?

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 02:56:08 AM

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 02:25:50 AM

Yeah, well, the ~~server~~ mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?

Ok so I sent a mail from [email protected] to my gmail address and it is showing the sender email address fine (in proper case). I also tried reply on the email and it was successfully received at my bitcoin email address.
However currently email ids at bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails.

OK, I am a little bit confused here...
You have sent an email to your Gmail account which arrived to your Gmail with the sender address as is shown above (both Upper and lowercase),
yet bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails?

How does that work?

I sent the mail through test account and in general sending email through bitcoinmessages.info email addresses is not available.

Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 02:56:08 AM

EDIT: Also, how do you plan on handling things when 2 or more addresses are the same with the only difference some capital or lowercase letters?

You can read it in my previous messages.

Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 03:02:31 AM

Also, this is how you would give out your email address ([email protected]) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long..... Roll Eyes

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?

As I have explained earlier this is not a replacement for your general email and thus this is not how it is supposed to work unless you tell everyone your bitcoin address 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU like :

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u

Then hope to recieve your funds

OK, gotcha.
I have just noticed that you have updated your OP.
Sorry bout that Cheesy

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 03:02:31 AM

Also, this is how you would give out your email address ([email protected]) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long..... Roll Eyes

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?

Just give your regular email address to someone Wink

Quote from: ak111in on May 27, 2015, 12:04:59 PM

Just to clarify this is not expected to replace your regular email. This can be used in specific cases like when you want to contact with someone whose bitcoin address is only known or in cases where you do not want to give your regular email address this can be an easy replacement.

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And way more easier to get spammed by e-mail advertiser. Grin

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Also, this is how you would give out your email address ([email protected]) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long..... Roll Eyes

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 02:25:50 AM

Yeah, well, the ~~server~~ mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?

Ok so I sent a mail from [email protected] to my gmail address and it is showing the sender email address fine (in proper case). I also tried reply on the email and it was successfully received at my bitcoin email address.
However currently email ids at bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails.

OK, I am a little bit confused here...
You have sent an email to your Gmail account which arrived to your Gmail with the sender address as is shown above (both Upper and lowercase),
yet bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails?

How does that work?

EDIT: Also, how do you plan on handling things when 2 or more addresses are the same with the only difference some capital or lowercase letters?

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Thanks for clarification. was a bit confused on the concept of email and relation to email.

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i think this is a good idea but has some flaws in it.

the long address might create some problems, while sending email you might not be able to put so many characters as the receiver's address. besides the long address makes it hard to remember or give to anyone.

also there is no difference between lower case and upper case letters in email address so it can be a problem since bitcoin address has both.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 01:47:51 AM

Quote from: thebenjamincode on May 27, 2015, 09:31:19 PM

in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.

Why do you say that case sensitivity cannot be handled, as far as I have tested all the email services pass "to email address" with the correct case so once my server gets the case sensitive "to email address" it handles it correctly in case sensitive way. You can check by sending the email to [email protected] and [email protected] and it will be received at addresses 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu respectively.
If you are thinking the other way like from [email protected] and [email protected] to your gmail address, still you will see the proper sender as gmail does not have to resolve case sensitive receiver as in this case the receiver is your gmail address. Please correct me if I am missing something.

Yeah, well, the ~~server~~ mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?

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Quote from: Amitabh S on May 27, 2015, 02:57:50 PM

It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.

how this can work without a specific domain? you mean an integrated email fuction in the client directly? it could work only in that case, without using third party

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 01:47:51 AM

Quote from: thebenjamincode on May 27, 2015, 09:31:19 PM

in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.

Why do you say that case sensitivity cannot be handled, as far as I have tested all the email services pass "to email address" with the correct case so once my server gets the case sensitive "to email address" it handles it correctly in case sensitive way. You can check by sending the email to [email protected] and [email protected] and it will be received at addresses 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu respectively.
If you are thinking the other way like from [email protected] and [email protected] to your gmail address, still you will see the proper sender as gmail does not have to resolve case sensitive receiver as in this case the receiver is your gmail address. Please correct me if I am missing something.

You probably didn't understand me right on the first place man .
Try to create a Gmail account now with any of your Bitcoin adresses , once it's done your adress will showup with low cases once again. so let's say you give that adress with low sensitive to someone , yes he will be able to send you an email but imagine if he wants to send you some BTC's while he know that your email = your BTC adress ,he couldn't because the adress of email is low sensitive while bitcoin should have upper and lower cases .

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Quote from: thebenjamincode on May 27, 2015, 09:31:19 PM

in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.

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If the actual e-mail address aka alias e-mail was redirected towards a Bitcoin e-mail address then that would be a bit interesting
Not sure it would really add a layer of security having a name layer easy to remember address to give out then a Bitcoin address to forward to and read messages from it but it would be amusing to forward e-mails to it and see hackers break the wrong e-mail account if you constantly delete the alias addresses messages.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on May 27, 2015, 02:18:13 PM

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Quote from: ak111in on May 27, 2015, 12:04:59 PM

It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
[email protected]

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .
Also people prefer the short adresses because they are easy to remember instead of that . however it's not that bad , like the idea afterall

Are you allowed to start your email address with a number?
As far as I know some email providers do not allow that.
Apart from that, how are you going to handle the case sensitivity?

Yes you are able to do that (I mean adding number at the start of the email) . However you can't handle the case sensitivity so it's useless basically . means you can get the email from a bitcoin adress (because emails don't care about case sensitivity) but you can't get the Bitcoin adress from the email (because Bitcoin does care about the case sensitivity) .

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Quote from: Kprawn on May 28, 2015, 01:20:32 AM

My idea with a email address is to keep it as short as possible. Imagine giving that BTC email adress to someone over the telephone... Shocked

In many sites, you have to login with your email address, and to have to copy and paste it, every time you have to use it, will become tedious.

It might be a good idea, if you want to link email messages from certain services to your BTC address, but it's making things more complex.

The only positive thing... The uniqueness of the address {The chance is VERY low, that it would have been used before} Grin

....I would rather use it as a Username on sites. Roll Eyes

That's a good point, if we took it further and used Bitcoin addresses as user names here then it would create extreme confusion. Nobody would know who they were replying to because all the addresses look so similar. Also, it would be easier to fake a username/email by using vanitygen to generate an address with exactly the same first few characters as somebody else's address. People would be tricked by it because they would probably get lazy and only check the first few characters of an address.

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My idea with a email address is to keep it as short as possible. Imagine giving that BTC email adress to someone over the telephone... Shocked

In many sites, you have to login with your email address, and to have to copy and paste it, every time you have to use it, will become tedious.

It might be a good idea, if you want to link email messages from certain services to your BTC address, but it's making things more complex.

The only positive thing... The uniqueness of the address {The chance is VERY low, that it would have been used before} Grin

....I would rather use it as a Username on sites. Roll Eyes

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Why go through so much trouble while you can have a simple and easy Email address. And why put your BTC address on the line, we have plenty of things to put in our email address. I like it mine simple, not zigzag like my BTC address.

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in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

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Quote from: ak111in on May 27, 2015, 12:04:59 PM

It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
[email protected]

Maybe @bitcoinm.info is better for short.

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Quote from: Amitabh S on May 27, 2015, 02:57:50 PM

It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.

yup multitasking, not bad

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