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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on February 02, 2019, 12:23:00 PM

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I don't see any reason not to use this header several times

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It doesn't take more space and allows you to be sure all quotes are (or aren't) from the same post/person.

I'd say what you are saying is actually a bad practice that shouldn't be used.

Any quote should have a reference attached to it, be it another post on this very forum, or a link to the website/book/whatever the quote is taken from.

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Quote from: Ipwich on February 02, 2019, 03:58:29 AM

We have different interpretation on the post we quote, but for me, if I reply on a certain post, I normally pick the sentence where I should focus on replying, because sometimes you see an interesting sentence it's part of the long sentence, so either I select the interesting part or just ~snip~ the whole post.

However, there's a little disadvantage for the reader especially if you are quoting (~snip~ ) a message that is pages behind, and some of the readers are not educated enough to click on the quoted message to reveal the real message, they just read and that's it.

Me, I just ~snip~ when message is in the same page of my reply, would be easy for the readers.

Rules of using quote in one reply post:
- The first quote: quote with link to original posts
- The rest quote: simply use

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Because, for later quotes after the first one, readers already known which posts you want to discuss/ mention about.

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We have different interpretation on the post we quote, but for me, if I reply on a certain post, I normally pick the sentence where I should focus on replying, because sometimes you see an interesting sentence it's part of the long sentence, so either I select the interesting part or just ~snip~ the whole post.

However, there's a little disadvantage for the reader especially if you are quoting (~snip~ ) a message that is pages behind, and some of the readers are not educated enough to click on the quoted message to reveal the real message, they just read and that's it.

Me, I just ~snip~ when message is in the same page of my reply, would be easy for the readers.

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Please don't do that, especially if you are replying to the OP, or immediately following the post you intend to quote. Not everybody has all day to read the threads, so by inconsiderate quoting, you are not only risking the possibility that your post will be skipped, but that you cut down on the time the merit awarders spend in productive reading. This means you are depriving other members of the chance to receive merits.

I won't even start on the problems one has when reading the boards on a small mobile.

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Isn't good to look if you quote pyramid quotes, for me snipping is just you've cut the post/reply by giving the response to the idea of an author. I do usually quote the whole content of reply/post without using snip but if there's a sentence/word that I want to emphasize I usually bolded on it to make it clear that I responded the thought of those bolded word/s. Indeed, using ~snip~ is a case to case basis and it depends upon on you how to answer relevant to your quoted pots/reply.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 11, 2019, 04:10:40 AM

I thought we have the same discussions about it months ago?, Tips for newbies, who want to avoid over-quoting.

Thank you so much for mentioning about my topic.
Pyramid quotes always one of the most annoying posting style, most of pyramid-quoted posts come from spambies.

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As long as one doesn't quote the entire message,most times if it's so long, then anything witty and meaningless such as snip could do,such users could even come up with their own abbs to show such Indication,as long as its short then it's acceptable.
This is one part that most newbies should learn how to do,quoting the whole text most times shows inexperience here on the forum and unwillingness to study and learn

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Nice initiatives from joeperry to guide and help reducing pyramid quotes in the forum.
I made a topic for the same purposes months ago.
There you go:
Tips for newbies, who want to avoid over-quoting

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I did start a guide in the Fit to Talk English project, but it didn't generate much interest, so I think it needs to be completed.

https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/index.php?topic=27.0

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I use <…> instead of ~snip~, but the actual choice there is rather irrelevant as long as it is used adequately. What I do find is that tips of a kind (and many more) come up on a post that then withers away under the pile of newly created threads, until a new forum members creates a topic of the sort again to state it yet again – and so the cycle goes on.

Some of these recurrent tips would fit nicely in a sort of general official forum guide that I find lacking. Yes there are stickies with some of the relevant stuff, and yes on can use the search function, but it’s not like one is going to think offhand to search for a topic such as this one. A general forum guide (covering all sorts of relevant matters) that is sent to the account’s email upon registration (a link to avoid people having different versions), and also included in the profile as a shortcut access would be nice to have.

I stated above "official forum guide", since one can always create his own guide, but it will likely get lost under a pile of threads, and it would not be as integrated into the platform as I’d like it to be.

Note: Your randomly chosen images are rather familiar, and may even become material for a script for a video that someone may venture to make on the forum’s prime time tragicomedy …

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What you guys don't seem to realise is that volume readers, such as merit sources, don't have the time to read long posts, unless they are interesting of course. If I see a post with a long quote, or a quote pyramid, then I just skip to the next post, so the poster does't get his post read. This may be fine if you are a bounty spammer, and you don't care if nobody reads your comments, but if you are after merits, then you are killing your chances.

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Also, when replying to OP you don't have to quote the original post.
And when replying to a specific post, use ~, snip,... or what suits you to make you reply short and easy to read.
If you want to interact with another user, you don't have to quote his reply just use this format: @user_name or #user_name so he knows you are addressing your post to him.

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Quote from: UserU on January 11, 2019, 01:37:09 AM

IMO, I'd rather not snip quotes for reference purposes. Unless that post has multiples quotes to it.

Most people won't like your posts. You should know that not all thread contents are the core intent of an OP writing. If you post with the intention of looking for other people's responses about one of several parts of a post, while you quote everything, it will be annoying.

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Quote with "~snip~" only effective on the long post but I think on less text or comment it is fine to quote them without "~snip~".

Look the altcoin bounty section there are many bounty hunters doesn't use ~snip~ and they mostly just repeated the who post of someone's post.

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This is one of my pet topics, and I put members on ignore for including full quotes.

If you don't like the use of snip, then there are various alternatives you can use. My preference is the meow >..< , but the principle is the same.

Another useful one is the typesetters continuation. This is /.. or ../ if you have cut out the beginning.

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I thought we have the same discussions about it months ago?, Tips for newbies, who want to avoid over-quoting.

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Quote from: joeperry on January 10, 2019, 09:50:22 PM

Does this really matter? I see people to use "~snip~", "~", "snip", "", ".".

Quote from: joniboini on January 10, 2019, 11:11:40 PM

Personally, I choose to ignore people who can't quote properly, and it really helps to filter good contents that I should read.

Well I avoid long quotes. You will find the example in the bounty reports.

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Quote from: UserU on January 11, 2019, 01:37:09 AM

IMO, I'd rather not snip quotes for reference purposes. Unless that post has multiples quotes to it.

I somehow think the same way but in least cases where I believe that the author whose post I quoted and snipped is not going to run away in future (though, nobody here can be trusted fully, but some technical, financial and legal posts should never be snipped).

@OP,
I know that you tried to show the real way of how snip should be applied, but I use it in a different way as I think differently, sometimes I use and sometimes --snip-- based on my mood. The thing here isn't how you keep it, but the cut is already made so it doesn't bother too much as all we want is others to understand that a post is snipped.

Quote from: kingpin4321 on January 11, 2019, 01:47:20 AM

--snip--
In addition snip is a more attractive way and make your post neat but even if you do not want to input snips you can as well leave the quote box with symbols e.g ( ), [ ], { }, < >

Nothing changes as whatever is in the quote is cut in the end. You said it right, and even if there are many quotes put in one comment (like most people do to carry away a debate), snip is the best option to cut down unnecessary content and focus only on the part we're replying them.

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Quoting a whole message in my opinion is not a bad thing to do only when it is not being abused.
Quoting a whole message to reply with unimportant message is definitely quote abuse.
In addition snip is a more attractive way and make your post neat but even if you do not want to input snips you can as well leave the quote box with symbols e.g ( ), [ ], { }, < >

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IMO, I'd rather not snip quotes for reference purposes. Unless that post has multiples quotes to it.

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The key to a successful quote is that, it should not clog up a thread and make it difficult to read.
If your are replying to the entire text, and it's a little above yours then you can clear out the entire content ans replace it with snip or ellipses.
If replying to a specific part of a text, then you should clear out the rest of the text leaving that content you want to reply to.

If it's a long thread, and the text is far above yours, then you can quote the text without clearing, so readers do not have to go back up to take in the full context of you reply.

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Quoting a post and commenting it professsionally is probably one of the hardest things to do in this forum. I believe most people already know how to snip a quote but the problem is they have to do it manually. For the average joe that's not the ideal solution as you want to post as many as possible (for a signature campaign). Maybe if there is a snip feature when you quote a post, where you can use it to a block of texts and then replace it with '~snips~' things could change. And OP, this is not new actually, we've talked about this many times and as you can see, some people still won't do it.

Personally, I choose to ignore people who can't quote properly, and it really helps to filter good contents that I should read.

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DISCLAIMER: All of the image, links below are just random I've found while making this posts there's no intention on using the other post/s for any reasons just for an example

I was looking for some interested posts around the forum and some people are replying to posts and quoting the whole thing. I've posted it here since most of the new users are wandering here in the Beginners & Help section.

Here is the example of how NOT TO QUOTE: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45593076

CORRECT WAY OF USING SNIP

after quoting the post you should change it to ~snip~, -snip- (or whatever design you want) but not all the time you need to do the snipping you can always leave there are somethings you don't need to remove for example you're want to correct a part of the post

And you want to focus on a certain part of the post this way you're going to do this:

Well, I was hoping that the new generation of the forum users will not make the same mistake as the past users (including me) let's change the forum by following this simple steps. I was hoping that you will take this seriously since it makes your post clean and more professional and constructive.

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