Using trust rating for a death threat TMAN, foxpup and lauda.

TMAN

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Quote from: actmyname on November 05, 2019, 11:54:50 AM

Not all civil users end with removed negative feedback but most users with removed negative feedback have remained civil throughout.

This - don't be a dick, admit fault - show empathy.. prove to me you are not a total drunkard dickwad and id remove the neg... Lauda is Lauda and is as about as controllable as a 3 year old in a tizzy but the rest of us who have tagged you have all removed tags in the past IIRC, unfortunately with only 5 merits and lots of dickhead action I am inclined to just stick you on ignore.

But prove me wrong and I will help you out well 1/4th of the negs removed anyway

actmyname

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All I will say is that people who will jump to death threats quickly will usually not have the type of character that I'd judge as "trustworthy".

Unfortunately, the abstinence of civility only increases as the volume of negative feedback does, and in many cases when users open up threads vocalizing their discontent and indignant treatment, it ends up being the reverse of what they want.

Not all civil users end with removed negative feedback but most users with removed negative feedback have remained civil throughout.

andulolika

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Quote from: Lauda on November 05, 2019, 09:02:44 AM

Quote from: Lauda on November 04, 2019, 09:58:45 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:52:20 PM

so what you 3 people want to remove those ratings? you clearly talked between yourselves, and this has nothing to do with trust.

I added the other two people that you likely have sent this to. They can hereby witness my answer: You can royally fuck off.

Death will precede my removal of this rating.

It feels you got a dragon into ur arse and can't get it out.
Ps: getting funny now

Edit: tman 2 posts ahead, you not very wise talking merit, is an arguably new feature.

Lauda

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Quote from: Lauda on November 04, 2019, 09:58:45 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:52:20 PM

so what you 3 people want to remove those ratings? you clearly talked between yourselves, and this has nothing to do with trust.

I added the other two people that you likely have sent this to. They can hereby witness my answer: You can royally fuck off.

Death will precede my removal of this rating.

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:23:45 PM

then 3 very well trust rated members come up in it's aid, If they work togheter or not is not my problem

What's more likely - these users are all PMing each other about every rating they leave and are backing each other up without a second thought or consideration, or maybe they all think that issuing death threats makes you somewhat less than trustworthy? I know which one of those options I would bet on.

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:23:45 PM

My punishment been fullfilled and I learned once again the lesson to keep my opinion for myself.

The lesson here isn't "Keep your opinion to yourself". It's "Threatening to kill another user is unacceptable". I don't think you've learned anything - you clearly think it's still fine to wish death on other users, just as long as you aren't vocal about it.

TMAN

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You broke the rules and now you are bitching, Sending PM’s and starting threads?

Even TAA isn’t backing you son.. your shit out of luck

The-One-Above-All

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 08:07:24 PM

Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 04, 2019, 07:59:56 PM

Sorry not sure why that cut off.

I meant to say did they start coming after you BEFORE or AFTER the death threat was issued?

I mean if you were personally scammed and you have undeniable evidence of such and had lost a lot of money then being drunk coupled with the frustration may explain your threats (depending on how serious they were)

Undeniable evidence is kind of hard to come by in some instances of scamming. If you had that the best you can perhaps hope for at this stage is inducing other DT members to give the scamming project red trust.

After, all my fault there.
Most projects end up dead wih people's money taken and even if they get to develop something it was all for the hype for the ICO or for the sell-walls to be taken. Hence I believe in a very small amount of projects and such projects that come with typical format get's tagged as scam, over a lot of trust taggings they simply ceased promoting the coin in a good bunch of cases, others been proven with time. Anyhow just like that I got over parodium preaching such project and got pretty lit up, I only once lost money with shitcoins and i were very aware it was going to be a scam but it had "dark" in it so for the lulz i tossed it some.

Ha yes lauda likes promoting scams with "dark" in them too.

Sadly if it was AFTER then I think it will be hard to have the red removed.

However we understand your frustration about scams. Hopefully the project itself was given some red.

andulolika

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Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 04, 2019, 07:59:56 PM

Sorry not sure why that cut off.

I meant to say did they start coming after you BEFORE or AFTER the death threat was issued?

I mean if you were personally scammed and you have undeniable evidence of such and had lost a lot of money then being drunk coupled with the frustration may explain your threats (depending on how serious they were)

Undeniable evidence is kind of hard to come by in some instances of scamming. If you had that the best you can perhaps hope for at this stage is inducing other DT members to give the scamming project red trust.

After, all my fault there.
Most projects end up dead wih people's money taken and even if they get to develop something it was all for the hype for the ICO or for the sell-walls to be taken. Hence I believe in a very small amount of projects and such projects that come with typical format get's tagged as scam, over a lot of trust taggings they simply ceased promoting the coin in a good bunch of cases, others been proven with time. Anyhow just like that I got over parodium preaching such project and got pretty lit up, I only once lost money with shitcoins and i were very aware it was going to be a scam but it had "dark" in it so for the lulz i tossed it some.

I once led someone to mt.gox and got goxxed and since then im pretty raged against scamcoins and projects.

edit: Yes parodium was the manager, and while I never neg trusted the "maker" lauda did, so it feels a bit contradictory on my first theory.

The-One-Above-All

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Sorry not sure why that cut off.

I meant to say did they start coming after you BEFORE or AFTER the death threat was issued?

I mean if you were personally scammed and you have undeniable evidence of such and had lost a lot of money then being drunk coupled with the frustration may explain your threats to a degree(depending on how serious they were).

Undeniable evidence is kind of hard to come by in some instances of scamming. If you had that the best you can perhaps hope for at this stage is inducing other DT members to give the scamming project red trust.

Considering these members ( lauda and tman) have given red trust to people for simply whistle blowing on their own scamming (they are both proven scammers as explained on the DT thread in meta board ) then it is just interesting to know if they came after you before or after you made the death threat.

Best case is get the project flagged up as a scam.

andulolika

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Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 04, 2019, 07:40:57 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:23:45 PM

Quote from: AverageGlabella on November 04, 2019, 07:20:30 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:16:44 PM

I did say once or twice I were sorry because of my behaviour but I still don't think i should be sorry to a probable scammer and it's group. Besides whatfor? Feeding ego? And really real fear off a death threat on the internet by whatever user.

Then why did you make the death threat? If it had no impact on the other member you would have not used it or even thought to have used it even if you were out of your face drunk you knew that it would have some impact. You have had two chances to redeem your actions and have refused.

You first only received a 180 day ban which normally members get permanent bans for death threats. You then refuse to apologies and go on to say that you don't think you need too. If you have said sorry once or twice before then why go on to say you don't think you need too. That just makes it look like you said sorry just to make yourself look better instead of owning up to your mistakes and actually meaning it.

First the ban has passed and I didn't do that again, second, I did tell to parodium i'm sorry, atleast I think so.
And third, a bit strange that a shitcoin manager gets tagged then 3 very well trust rated members come up in it's aid, If they work togheter or not is not my problem or i don't care anymore.
And ... yes it feelt very stupid even in that moment playing slut machines drunk as hell and trying to make the forum a better place. No I has no regrets. My punishment been fullfilled and I learned once again the lesson to keep my opinion for myself.

Slut machines? co-ordinates please.

Can you clarify a few points.

1. what was the project and what undeniable proof do you have it is a scam? did you present this evidence and was the scamming project given negative trust?

2. Did lauda and tman start coming after you before or after the drunken threat was issued.

3. Did you present the undeniab

He was wearing some blue themed signature, bitcoin air if im not wrong, all shitcoins are scams let's not lie to ourselves. i give neg trust to project manager and everything when i can.
i got 3 negative ratings which don't look very nice after the threat eventho im sure they were contacted when just the ratind.
what is undeniab.

edit: slott machines/slut machines, i werent even focused on what i write but i do remember the feeling of stupid after "send".

The-One-Above-All

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:23:45 PM

Quote from: AverageGlabella on November 04, 2019, 07:20:30 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:16:44 PM

I did say once or twice I were sorry because of my behaviour but I still don't think i should be sorry to a probable scammer and it's group. Besides whatfor? Feeding ego? And really real fear off a death threat on the internet by whatever user.

Then why did you make the death threat? If it had no impact on the other member you would have not used it or even thought to have used it even if you were out of your face drunk you knew that it would have some impact. You have had two chances to redeem your actions and have refused.

You first only received a 180 day ban which normally members get permanent bans for death threats. You then refuse to apologies and go on to say that you don't think you need too. If you have said sorry once or twice before then why go on to say you don't think you need too. That just makes it look like you said sorry just to make yourself look better instead of owning up to your mistakes and actually meaning it.

First the ban has passed and I didn't do that again, second, I did tell to parodium i'm sorry, atleast I think so.
And third, a bit strange that a shitcoin manager gets tagged then 3 very well trust rated members come up in it's aid, If they work togheter or not is not my problem or i don't care anymore.
And ... yes it feelt very stupid even in that moment playing slut machines drunk as hell and trying to make the forum a better place. No I has no regrets. My punishment been fullfilled and I learned once again the lesson to keep my opinion for myself.

Slut machines? co-ordinates please.

Can you clarify a few points.

1. what was the project and what undeniable proof do you have it is a scam? did you present this evidence and was the scamming project given negative trust?

2. Did lauda and tman start coming after you before or after the drunken threat was issued.

3. Did you present the undeniab

andulolika

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on November 04, 2019, 07:20:30 PM

Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:16:44 PM

I did say once or twice I were sorry because of my behaviour but I still don't think i should be sorry to a probable scammer and it's group. Besides whatfor? Feeding ego? And really real fear off a death threat on the internet by whatever user.

Then why did you make the death threat? If it had no impact on the other member you would have not used it or even thought to have used it even if you were out of your face drunk you knew that it would have some impact. You have had two chances to redeem your actions and have refused.

You first only received a 180 day ban which normally members get permanent bans for death threats. You then refuse to apologies and go on to say that you don't think you need too. If you have said sorry once or twice before then why go on to say you don't think you need too. That just makes it look like you said sorry just to make yourself look better instead of owning up to your mistakes and actually meaning it.

First the ban has passed and I didn't do that again, second, I did tell to parodium i'm sorry, atleast I think so.
And third, a bit strange that a shitcoin manager gets tagged then 3 very well trust rated members come up in it's aid, If they work togheter or not is not my problem or i don't care anymore.
And ... yes it feelt very stupid even in that moment playing slut machines drunk as hell and trying to make the forum a better place. No I has no regrets. My punishment been fullfilled and I learned once again the lesson to keep my opinion for myself.

AverageGlabella

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:16:44 PM

I did say once or twice I were sorry because of my behaviour but I still don't think i should be sorry to a probable scammer and it's group. Besides whatfor? Feeding ego? And really real fear off a death threat on the internet by whatever user.

Then why did you make the death threat? If it had no impact on the other member you would have not used it or even thought to have used it even if you were out of your face drunk you knew that it would have some impact. You have had two chances to redeem your actions and have refused.

You first only received a 180 day ban which normally members get permanent bans for death threats. You then refuse to apologies and go on to say that you don't think you need too. If you have said sorry once or twice before then why go on to say you don't think you need too. That just makes it look like you said sorry just to make yourself look better instead of owning up to your mistakes and actually meaning it.

andulolika

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I did say once or twice I were sorry because of my behaviour but I still don't think i should be sorry to a probable scammer and it's group. Besides whatfor? Feeding ego? And really real fear off a death threat on the internet by whatever user.
The post is for pointing how hard is to see such scam coins users and promoters tagged and how easy i got tagged because of a threat, besides i been tagging shitcoin scammers and scammers for years now in vain.

Foxpup

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:00:13 PM

I'm not going to be sorry because I were honest.

And I'm not going to remove my trust feedback - because I know you were honest. In vino veritas. I'm not an inexperienced drinker myself, and having seen both my own and other people's drunken antics first-hand on numerous occasions, I know that people who are violent and aggressive when drunk tend to be violent and aggressive when sober, just to a lesser degree, and that such people are not to be trusted. You might have had a chance if you demonstrated an improved and reformed attitude, but you have not even pretended to do so. My trust feedback stands.

AverageGlabella

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 07:00:13 PM

I'm not going to be sorry because I were honest. Eventho I admit I completly lacked of sense and I feel a bit of shame.

Then again, I think it's giving too much time to such a stupid matter, and going to court would just make people lose time and money.

Nope. Its not a waste of time. Death threats should be taken very seriously because even if the intention was not there the threat can cause unnecessary stress on people. The world we live in having more death threats and horrible things said (twitter etc) we are becoming numb to the issues that threatening someone can have on someones mind.

You still lack sense though. You admit that you feel shame for it but refuse to apologize. So are you feeling shame or are you just trying to make yourself look better? I'm unsure what you expect here. People who make death threats are probably not the most trustworthy people to have around here. You got lucky with that temp ban.

andulolika

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Death threats made online can be a police matter in the UK. You're lucky it’s just a few negative trust comments on an online forum & not something more serious.

You can rebuild your reputation to an extent if you accept what you did was wrong & apologise. People deserve a second chance sometimes but you need to look like you’re sorry.

I'm not going to be sorry because I were honest. Eventho I admit I completly lacked of sense and I feel a bit of shame.

Then again, I think it's giving too much time to such a stupid matter, and going to court would just make people lose time and money.

bitmover

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 06:39:17 PM

You got 3000 shitcoins created and promoted here of which 99.9% were scams and the kind of users around the forum, then you get someone that gets angry at this kind of behaviour and gets banned? But all the scamcoins are free and whatever truth is said against them is buried in hundreds of posts.
It kinda lacks of logic for me, threats are made on the internet either as joke either by butthurt people, yet scammers that basicaly steal people's money is better. How you take a threat thru the internet serious.

Those "scam" coins are not scams until someone prove that they are a scam. Some of them are legit projects.

However, everyone here is now 100% sure you threatened someone. You also confessed it.

Your argument lacks logic imo. Saying death threads around the internet (specially in social media, which this forum is) can get you to jail. I know many cases of people who threatened or insulted others on Twitter and had to deal with authorities.

180 days ban is a small penalty, and a negative trust is justified.

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Quote from: andulolika on November 04, 2019, 06:39:17 PM

You got 3000 shitcoins created and promoted here of which 99.9% were scams and the kind of users around the forum, then you get someone that gets angry at this kind of behaviour and gets banned? But all the scamcoins are free and whatever truth is said against them is buried in hundreds of posts.
It kinda lacks of logic for me, threats are made on the internet either as joke either by butthurt people, yet scammers that basicaly steal people's money is better. How you take a threat thru the internet serious.

Scams are not moderated and even if they were - that's not an excuse for your behavior. I agree with you on one thing though - looks like the 180-day ban was pointless. You haven't learned anything from it and you seem to think that your drunken threats were not wrong. You should have been banned permanently.

Foxpup

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I stand by what I said earlier.

Quote from: Foxpup on April 19, 2019, 10:46:08 AM

It turns out most people (and cats; I can't tell what Lauda is either) don't trust people who threaten to kill them. Who knew?

Quote from: Foxpup on April 19, 2019, 10:59:02 AM

They also don't trust people who threaten other people, either.

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