Topic: USPS Shutdown (Read 2895 times)

I think Mistafreeze was referring to extension of the length of time that unemployment insurance benefits can be collected, which has nearly quadrupled since Obama took office; going from 26 weeks to 99 weeks.

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Mister kettle, perhaps you should quit screaming that the pot is black. and might want to do a little research yourself before opening your mouth.. er fingers.


as for what happened, you can look that up as well


I swear I love it when people get all high and mighty and accuse others of being ignorant and not looking shit up, while they spew ignorance.

Anyone who wants to blame Bush for the current economic situation is either ignorant or a political hack.  The problems that we face now are systemic, long-term, and wide-spread.  It took the better part of fifty years to get here and irresponsible legislation and business practices, mixed with limited foresight and short-term profit-maximization by firms, special interest groups, AND unions as well as over leveraging of banks businesses, AND individuals.  In short, if you want to find someone to point the finger at, the closest person is probably the guy that looks back at you in the mirror.

There are a handful of things I consider important enough for the government to take care of. Police, Fire protection, military, roadwork, etc. In that list I truly feel the postal service is worth our tax dollars. Forget everything you dislike about Bush and Obama for a second here. Forget about everything they have done up until right now. Now, consider that Obama has been parading around the country recently trying to gain support for a new $465 billion dollar "jobs" plan. Why isn't he pushing congress to pass emergency funds to get the USPS back on their feet? I read that the USPS is in jeopardy of not making a $5.5 billion pension plan payment next month. Obama could propose a plan to give them $12 billion (a mere drop in the bucket compared to $465 billion no?) to keep them comfortably afloat for now and within 2 months press even harder to make the legislative changes needed to fix their broken union contracts.

I'm not saying the post office shouldn't down-size to keep up with the times, but why does everything have to be so damn sudden and severe when it comes to core services from the government? It's like Congress and the White House have no interest in fixing problems they can easily solve and instead try to create new problems or worsen big ones. It's my understanding that the "jobs" plan would be similar to the 2009 stimulus and if recent memory recalls correctly that worked real well didn't it? Oh wait we're trying to win votes for the next election not actually fix problems in a manageable way one at a time. I swear high school kids taking civics classes could run this country better than Washington does currently. At least they could see the mess in front of them clearly because their heads wouldn't already be up their asses.

As for a USPS shutdown's effect on bitcoin? Well it will hurt many bitcoin based start-ups in various ways. Those that choose to use USPS shipping of products no longer would have that option. The mail a typical business receives is slowly being offset by email, but not entirely. Like all other businesses they won't have a convenient and cheap way to receive or send simple paper mail via envelope. Eventually UPS and/or Fedex will take up the challenge of dealing with the USPS' business. Personally, I still prefer tradehill to gox and since the Dwolla incident I choose to get checks sent to me instead of signing up with Paxum when I do convert to USD. Tradehill will mail me a check for free and I only have to wait ~5 business days. It's not like the dollar's value is jumping from 12 to 4 to 6 to ?? every other day so a check for $xxx is still worth $xxx to me when I get it.

Ok, your retirement savings are hereby confiscated.  No free ride for you.

there is 3rd party local mail in cities, you know them. The one that give u spam in your box. There's fedex & UPS. The problem is theres like 7 million pensioners living off the retirement and using health care like free loaders. I'd say kick the free riders! and implement a cut-off date for years worked. Say reduce all pension by 30%... implement a date per years served. Say 10 years in teh mail service = 5 years pension etc... IT's the USPS fault 20 years ago hiring 50-60 year olds.

Too many people were voting for these bad candidates instead of a third party candidate who can fix the country.

UPS?

What is magical about a government subsidized parcel post? You either pay for it directly or via taxation.

USPS is how I got my yubikey. If it goes down I'm not sure how I'm going to get all my tech gadgets direct from China anymore.

This is fairly obviously false. For example, suppose you're unemployed and are offered a job paying $40,000/year, but in order to take the job you need to borrow money to buy a car. The same can be true at the national level; if spending more money increases tax income by more than the amount spent in the long run it helps to reduce the national debt.

what stops someone like UPS or FedEx step up and buy it off, re-organize, optimize and continue on?

Postal service is widely used and will be on for quite some time.  What's inconvenient is going to a postal office, most of the time than not you have to wait in line for simple things like buying stamps or getting labels for your package and waiting in line can take some time. Postal offices need to improve on their customer service, automate most of simple tasks like weighting and printing label or a stamp on a package or envelope

You couldn't have said it better. Join us, and together we will rule the galaxy. Well not really, but you should consider yourself Anonymous.

instead of bankruptcy.. they should kick the retirees with the "no free rides"... and also mandate a "workload" per pay check incentive. Maybe kick the union out and lower wages like those of public servants. 

I'm shocked :|

Yay, Politics.

Here's the final word: everyone in Washington is a douchebag, now STFU.

Keep politics out of the Bitcoin Forums, plz. Or at least the Speculation thread.

o.o I stopped reading at the second sentence, could you be more ignorant please?

Please tell me you don't vote. If you can't even look up what it is you're complaining about you shouldn't open your mouth. The one thing that seems to be getting missed by certain people is that you can't reduce debt by spending more money. During Bush' presidency, the debt went from $5.768 trillion to $10.626 trillion. ($607 billion/ year). During the first 2 1/2 years of Obama, it's gone up to $14.071 trillion ($1.723 trillion per year). I wouldn't be using Bush's debt as a talking point anymore. Congress has been controlled by the left since 2006. Guess who spends the money. Oops.

Obama can't fix this because his ideology is getting in the way. Get the government out of the private sector, stop paying people to sit at home and pop out 67 kids, and put time limits on welfare....guess what would happen? Instead, we need a healthcare bill that will further hurt the economy and bring DOWN the standard of care in this country. We fight for the Dream Act to send the children of illegals to college with tax payer money. Amnesty. Great idea there. And don't forget stopping gays from getting married. Holy fuck, that might cause....I'm not even sure what the fear is over this. Why other people are so concerned with the places others are putting their dicks is beyond me. The liberal mindset does not work in reality. While we would all love for everybody to have the exact same amount of everything, everybody to have a home, everybody to drive a Bentley, it can't happen. Guess what sunshine, less than half of the population of the US works for a living. It's simple math that they can't pay for the rest of the country to sit on their asses. How is this so complicated?

This isn't a problem with the left or the right, it's all of them. The corruption is running rampant, and you are one of the sheep that keeps feeding the monster.

The only way to fix the economy is to get the government out of the way. More regulation and more federal spending will only drive us further in. It doesn't take an economist to see that.

Look at the USPS, EPA, Dept. of Education, FEMA, etc for example. Anything the federal government is involved in turns into an over-regulated bureaucratic disaster.

Only took 8 years for Bush to drain it. Obama is going on 1 full term, shy of a few months, I doubt anyone could fix the problem in 1 term.

You really might want to get your information on your own rather than being spoon-fed from the media and talking points. This isn't Bush or Obama, it started decades ago and nobody stepped in to stop it. And before you say Clinton had a surplus....no, he didn't. Again, to recent....much, much, much further back.

Eh, whatever, it's just as much Obama's fault as it is Bush's.  All the politicians are a bunch of scheisters and Obama claiming he 'inherited' all this is getting a little bit old.  He had two years that he could pass whatever he wanted, and he did.  It didn't work.  He needs to man up and take the blame instead of crying that it was someone else's fault.