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November 09, 2017, 07:28:16 AM
And you lost all your trust in one day. Extented ICO show, that you very greedy and don't value investors!


thats what i say all the time thank you - nobody really listens
legendary
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November 09, 2017, 07:13:07 AM
Definitely it is not a good idea to extend the ICO period. It does not mean it will be bad for Utrust, in fact I believe it will be a positive measure.

But as some others pointed out, a week is just too few time for an ICO. 2 weeks seem the rule to follow. If they have stated a 2 week ICO right from the beginning it would have been better.

I don't think there is problem to extend the date of this ICO there is good chance to attract more investors for this project. The more funds mean dev will get more resources to make the development process more faster and launch this platform much early than expected.
sr. member
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November 09, 2017, 07:00:28 AM
Definitely it is not a good idea to extend the ICO period. It does not mean it will be bad for Utrust, in fact I believe it will be a positive measure.

But as some others pointed out, a week is just too few time for an ICO. 2 weeks seem the rule to follow. If they have stated a 2 week ICO right from the beginning it would have been better.
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November 09, 2017, 06:58:02 AM
there will always be people that disagree whit some movement of a project, so its nothing new, i trust in utrust, and this project wil succseed

hah) utrust one of those 90% tokens wich will depreciate in future. those 90% Buterin talking about.

let's hope so. this project has me very interested. spending crypto directly is a very important step to adoption.
legendary
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November 09, 2017, 06:44:04 AM
Hope UTrust does well at the exchanges!

UTRUST already going to be on exchange from start so other will add soon. this is long term project
Do you have the full exchanges list?
HitBTC will be just the beginning, we will still see a lot of new developments and hopefully for new exchanges, the Team is really surprised to anticipate the steps and we will have the opportunity to negotiate in big markets with big volumes. We can expect exciting names  Wink

Thank you, thats very good news, you also planed with Cryptopia?

regards
sr. member
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November 09, 2017, 06:09:27 AM
there will always be people that disagree whit some movement of a project, so its nothing new, i trust in utrust, and this project wil succseed

hah) utrust one of those 90% tokens wich will depreciate in future. those 90% Buterin talking about.
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November 09, 2017, 05:56:51 AM
it's not good for investor if expand ICO , i think UTRUST already very great now.

They do not seem to plan this no ?

It seems like they have thought about this earlier, this is from the whitepaper that i downloaded long time ago.

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During the round, the tokens are distributed in a first-come-first-served basis and only the tokens sold on each round will be created and issued (for example, if only 50% of the tokens are sold in 7 days, then only 500 million tokens will be generated, thereby decreasing the total token pool from 1 billion to 500 million).

This is no indicator that all of this was planed in before. It only states that all unsold tokens after the ICO  will get burned, which is a widely used process.
The current state is, that they burned tokens before the ICO finished to reduce the whole possible token amount. This is in my eyes a really good step because it gives the chance to raise the price. Also that they reduced their own tokens is a good sign, because they also could have gone with 100,000,000 tokens and finished the ICO then with the current state around 430,000,000 tokens. This means, 570,000,000 token would get burned and 100,000,000 would be tokens owned by the devs. All in all, the current state is much better then before.
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November 09, 2017, 05:55:02 AM
Yestarday total tokens sold was 435 millions and today 415 millions? Show your adress with tokens  Huh

i didn't understand with that, can some one explain it?
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November 09, 2017, 05:47:33 AM
there will always be people that disagree whit some movement of a project, so its nothing new, i trust in utrust, and this project wil succseed
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November 09, 2017, 05:37:58 AM
This is a good thing

    Team Tokens — REDUCED  
    Smart Contract — AUDITED
    Private Investors — VESTED  
    500 Million Tokens — BURNED

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So how much does Utrust finally want to raise money? $21.375.000?
275M (ICO) - $17.875.000
150M (Pre-ICO, investors) - $3.500.000
75M (bounty, marketing, team) - not for sale

With 21M market cap, the token price should triple easily.

I understand the first shock that is hitting everybody, but if you take a moment and think about it, this is also good news. 1 week was short for an ICO

I actually don't like when ICOs are extended but thankfully UTRUST has taken some actions, like burning half of token supply, reducing team tokens + vesting period for private investors, that the extension might not be bad at all.

i agree with you in every point i think they acted quite well and in the interest of the investors.

Usually, I am not a fan when an ICO gets extended beside the soft cap is already reached. But UTrust also cut the maximum amount of tokens in half and not just only extended the ICO. I think it was a good choice.

Extended ICO's duration when the softcap already reached isn't a good choice to take. I am not followed this project very much but this recent case caught my attention.
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November 09, 2017, 05:26:01 AM
Good point... I also don't understand what's with all the drama. It's not the first time an ICO got extended.

What drama? The issue is that they keep changing the rules that they have set for themselves and for their investors. This extension was never satisfactorily explained, while according to their own words, the ICO had been a blast and delivered sufficient funds for a successful operation. The way how they keep changing things around with apparent ease is a sign of neglectance, in the best case, and a sign of disregard for their investors in the worst.
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November 09, 2017, 05:22:56 AM
This is a good thing

    Team Tokens — REDUCED  
    Smart Contract — AUDITED
    Private Investors — VESTED  
    500 Million Tokens — BURNED

---------------------------

So how much does Utrust finally want to raise money? $21.375.000?
275M (ICO) - $17.875.000
150M (Pre-ICO, investors) - $3.500.000
75M (bounty, marketing, team) - not for sale

With 21M market cap, the token price should triple easily.

I understand the first shock that is hitting everybody, but if you take a moment and think about it, this is also good news. 1 week was short for an ICO

I actually don't like when ICOs are extended but thankfully UTRUST has taken some actions, like burning half of token supply, reducing team tokens + vesting period for private investors, that the extension might not be bad at all.

i agree with you in every point i think they acted quite well and in the interest of the investors.

Usually, I am not a fan when an ICO gets extended beside the soft cap is already reached. But UTrust also cut the maximum amount of tokens in half and not just only extended the ICO. I think it was a good choice.
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November 09, 2017, 05:21:00 AM

Good point... I also don't understand what's with all the drama. It's not the first time an ICO got extended.

I understand that extending will affect mostly to bounty hunters feelings, and you shouldn't irritate people who got lots of free time and are getting paid to write in bitcointalk. But then again, this is not the first time they have to deal with extented icos.

I am agreeing with you, all the fuss about it is getting extended is nonsense. It is not the first nor the last one.

Besides one week ico was too short for ico process.
legendary
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November 09, 2017, 05:17:06 AM
it's not good for investor if expand ICO , i think UTRUST already very great now.

They do not seem to plan this no ?

It seems like they have thought about this earlier, this is from the whitepaper that i downloaded long time ago.

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During the round, the tokens are distributed in a first-come-first-served basis and only the tokens sold on each round will be created and issued (for example, if only 50% of the tokens are sold in 7 days, then only 500 million tokens will be generated, thereby decreasing the total token pool from 1 billion to 500 million).

Good point... I also don't understand what's with all the drama. It's not the first time an ICO got extended.

I understand that extending will affect mostly to bounty hunters feelings, and you shouldn't irritate people who got lots of free time and are getting paid to write in bitcointalk. But then again, this is not the first time they have to deal with extented icos.
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November 09, 2017, 05:05:50 AM
Isn't it ironic when they say that utrust is not about the ICO, yet literally every single e-mail and press release speaks exclusively of the ICO? Meanwhile, how much did they talk (and show) about their product and development besides spreading thin air?

So they decided to extend the ICO - even though they stated previously with a lot of furor that by having reached the softcap they gained "technical and operational viability" with a "solid foundation to work from".
sr. member
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November 09, 2017, 04:54:54 AM
it's not good for investor if expand ICO , i think UTRUST already very great now.

They do not seem to plan this no ?

It seems like they have thought about this earlier, this is from the whitepaper that i downloaded long time ago.

Quote
During the round, the tokens are distributed in a first-come-first-served basis and only the tokens sold on each round will be created and issued (for example, if only 50% of the tokens are sold in 7 days, then only 500 million tokens will be generated, thereby decreasing the total token pool from 1 billion to 500 million).
legendary
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November 09, 2017, 04:51:05 AM
50 million supply is much better. Thanks UTRUST i like  Smiley
It's impossible because 420 million tokens have been sold to investors. They decided to burn 500 million tokens which the result their total supply only 500 million tokens
sr. member
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November 09, 2017, 04:43:13 AM
50 million supply is much better. Thanks UTRUST i like  Smiley
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November 09, 2017, 04:43:03 AM
And you lost all your trust in one day. Extented ICO show, that you very greedy and don't value investors!
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November 09, 2017, 04:38:28 AM
There is nothing good for investors! I cant trust gready people, who change rules in last moment! You must go to schedule!

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The newly released tokens will be added back into the total supply for everybody to purchase during our ICO.

You can create unlimited tokens? wtf?  Huh
How many tokens you created for himself in fact?

You must be new here. We cannot change the smart contract once it is deployed. The contract will create 1 billion tokens and burn (with proof) one half of it.

Kakumei

What with our 50 mln tokens for bounty? We working for you few month.

If you followed the market and our ICO, it was clear that if we ended our ICO today, we would never have distributed and 1 billion tokens and therefore bounty was never going to be 50 million. So absolutely nothing changes for bounty hunters and we will be true to our words. The bounty thread clearly states: "5% of all distributed tokens".

First of all, as I stated above I am not conform with the extention but please guys, before you start fudding or whatever, just read the announcement first carefully. There are no tokens which could be made out of air. The 50m "extra" tokens come from the dev team which had 100,000,000 before and now just 50,000,000 token. The other 50,000,000 are now open for sale.

Beside that, could you please discuss the bounty stuff in the bounty thread? It's there for this.

Thank you  for your support!

So and extension and a lowering of total number of tokens. I guess this will impact the bounty hunters the most.
For the investors, lowering the amount of tokens is good news, as they will be worth more in the long run when the product is released.


It doesn't affect bounties at all, we would never have allocated 1 billion tokens and bounty is not fixed, but a 5% of all tokens. Nothing at all changes.

This is a good thing

    Team Tokens — REDUCED  
    Smart Contract — AUDITED
    Private Investors — VESTED  
    500 Million Tokens — BURNED

---------------------------

So how much does Utrust finally want to raise money? $21.375.000?
275M (ICO) - $17.875.000
150M (Pre-ICO, investors) - $3.500.000
75M (bounty, marketing, team) - not for sale

With 21M market cap, the token price should triple easily.

I understand the first shock that is hitting everybody, but if you take a moment and think about it, this is also good news. 1 week was short for an ICO

I actually don't like when ICOs are extended but thankfully UTRUST has taken some actions, like burning half of token supply, reducing team tokens + vesting period for private investors, that the extension might not be bad at all.

Thanks! We really tried hard and thought a lot about what we can do to prove that we are extending for the right reasons. Cutting OUR tokens in half, burning 500 million tokens and vesting private investors (even though some people here say they don't care about them) is great news for all investors.

In the end, and this is a big deal for us, UTRUST is absolutely not about the ICO. We appreciate and love our community, the trust you have given us and the funds you provide to build the online payments revolution. But UTRUST is about the platform, not about the ICO. We are super excited to finally start focussing on the platform, and the changes we implemented last night go a long way in helping us do just that.

I hope that, over time, people will understand that what we did had nothing to do with greed (since we halved our own tokens as well), but instead was what we thought was best for the platform.
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