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Quote from: FIEX on September 22, 2017, 12:00:25 PM

Quote from: toolucky98 on September 22, 2017, 11:32:47 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 11:24:01 AM

I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?

Yes of course, all of those 150 mln tokens.
You can read on the first page "SOLD OUT"

Indeed 15% of all tokens are already sold!
This is great news for this ICO, this means the crowdsale will get a lot a traction.

Cant wait for the crowdsale

please help me a little bit.
is there a difference between crowdsale and ICO?

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Quote from: toolucky98 on September 22, 2017, 12:10:25 PM

Quote from: tiger5056 on September 22, 2017, 11:59:10 AM

https://medium.com/@UTRUST/early-supporter-reward-e9a862208b7f missed early supporter discount. is there still any tier discount when open?

You have missed that chance, i dont know about another discount or bonus because the pre-ico have finished.
But i think the ICO price is still cheaper than in the future when many people are using UTrust.

I've looked around for it as well, since i was also too late. But i think we just have to wait till the official start. Or Etherdelta right after Grin

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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"

Quote from: FIEX on September 22, 2017, 12:00:25 PM

Quote from: toolucky98 on September 22, 2017, 11:32:47 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 11:24:01 AM

I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?

Yes of course, all of those 150 mln tokens.
You can read on the first page "SOLD OUT"

Indeed 15% of all tokens are already sold!
This is great news for this ICO, this means the crowdsale will get a lot a traction.

Cant wait for the crowdsale

yeah i wish i saw tht early. That means i can dump 20% at the start and still be on stake value as ico particpants

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Quote from: tiger5056 on September 22, 2017, 11:59:10 AM

https://medium.com/@UTRUST/early-supporter-reward-e9a862208b7f missed early supporter discount. is there still any tier discount when open?

You have missed that chance, i dont know about another discount or bonus because the pre-ico have finished.
But i think the ICO price is still cheaper than in the future when many people are using UTrust.

FIEX

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Quote from: toolucky98 on September 22, 2017, 11:32:47 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 11:24:01 AM

I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?

Yes of course, all of those 150 mln tokens.
You can read on the first page "SOLD OUT"

Indeed 15% of all tokens are already sold!
This is great news for this ICO, this means the crowdsale will get a lot a traction.

Cant wait for the crowdsale

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https://medium.com/@UTRUST/early-supporter-reward-e9a862208b7f missed early supporter discount. is there still any tier discount when open?

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Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 11:24:01 AM

Quote from: cryptothreads on September 22, 2017, 11:10:48 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 10:58:30 AM

Quote from: pynetx on September 21, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 20, 2017, 11:36:35 PM

They raised full amount on pre-ico? (as in the announcement - 1.5 mln usd). For which period they raised this amount?
And when ll be start ICO? Can anyone give me exact date?

Not full amount but, the 15% which was reserved for the Private Investors and Pre-ICO.
The exact date is not yet finalized but it is expected to start in the first week of October.

No, no. I seen this. On 1-st page:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

So, they sold all this tokens or only part of them?

I think they have not sold out yet because in October there will be a crowsale and everyone can buy Utrust, if this happens the project will be sold very quickly because there are so many investors who like this project.

I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?

Yes of course, all of those 150 mln tokens.
You can read on the first page "SOLD OUT"

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Quote from: cryptothreads on September 22, 2017, 11:10:48 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 10:58:30 AM

Quote from: pynetx on September 21, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 20, 2017, 11:36:35 PM

They raised full amount on pre-ico? (as in the announcement - 1.5 mln usd). For which period they raised this amount?
And when ll be start ICO? Can anyone give me exact date?

Not full amount but, the 15% which was reserved for the Private Investors and Pre-ICO.
The exact date is not yet finalized but it is expected to start in the first week of October.

No, no. I seen this. On 1-st page:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

So, they sold all this tokens or only part of them?

I think they have not sold out yet because in October there will be a crowsale and everyone can buy Utrust, if this happens the project will be sold very quickly because there are so many investors who like this project.

I mean, not ALL tokens. I mean this tokens:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

This 150 mln tokens was sold in full volume?

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Quote from: muvie on September 22, 2017, 05:20:48 AM

What are the accepted currencies to contribute in the token sale? Only ETH or is it also possible to buy in with Bitcoin?

UTRUST will accept Bitcoin and Ethereum. It will be much convenient for them to count contributions. If you have other currencies you can use shapeshift or other services for converting them into ETH/BTC

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Quote from: cantdecide on September 22, 2017, 09:49:49 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on September 22, 2017, 06:47:42 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on September 22, 2017, 06:15:46 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on September 22, 2017, 04:02:26 AM

I still got a question regarding the 1% fee for the buyer and I am still not sure how the convertion of cryptocurrency to fiat works in detail.

If I understand correctly these 1% fee includes, besides a commission for UTrust, the fee that is necessary to convert from crypto to fiat on an exchange. So what happens if I buy something very cheap, maybe only worth $! or something like that and I want to pay with Bitcoin. In this case the 1 % of such a tiny amount won't be enough to convert it to fiat, right?

Isn't this a general problem as long as cryptos got transaction fees? UTrust always has to send the crypto currency from its Escrow to the exchange partner in order to get it converted. Who pays for these transactions? Because as I stated above I guess the 1% fee wont be enough to cover that.

Well that's an interesting question, but the 1% don't implement the normal transaction fees if I get the answer of the dev right.

Quote from: Kakumei on September 21, 2017, 02:24:34 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on September 20, 2017, 01:58:41 PM

But if you see it real, you still have more fees in addition to the 1% or? Buyer and seller need to deal also with transaction costs of the crypto, or do I see it wrong?

You would likely be correct. I will clarify this for you and post it here in the next update, but the network fee is probably still to be paid by the users themselves. Given that this will become cheaper and cheaper (IOTA is free, Litecoin will soon be too, etc), this should only add insignificant overhead.

Yeah, I understand it the same way.
But as long as there are huge transaction fees (or network fees) that add up on top of the 1% fee I could understand everyone who wants to stick to traditional payment options instead of UTrust. Unforunately that's something UTrust can't do very much about for now, besides adding the option to pay with the tx-fee-free cryptos like IOTA.

I am not so aware of the IOTA structure, as I got afraid of the claiming process, so I haven't hold me up to date. How do they compensate the tx-fee-free structure?

I am not an expert on IOTA either but as I understand there is no blockchain anymore but a so called Tangle. In order to make a transaction you have to validate two other transactions by a simple PoW.

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Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 10:58:30 AM

Quote from: pynetx on September 21, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 20, 2017, 11:36:35 PM

They raised full amount on pre-ico? (as in the announcement - 1.5 mln usd). For which period they raised this amount?
And when ll be start ICO? Can anyone give me exact date?

Not full amount but, the 15% which was reserved for the Private Investors and Pre-ICO.
The exact date is not yet finalized but it is expected to start in the first week of October.

No, no. I seen this. On 1-st page:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

So, they sold all this tokens or only part of them?

I think they have not sold out yet because in October there will be a crowsale and everyone can buy Utrust, if this happens the project will be sold very quickly because there are so many investors who like this project.

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Quote from: magisterr on September 22, 2017, 10:58:30 AM

Quote from: pynetx on September 21, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 20, 2017, 11:36:35 PM

They raised full amount on pre-ico? (as in the announcement - 1.5 mln usd). For which period they raised this amount?
And when ll be start ICO? Can anyone give me exact date?

Not full amount but, the 15% which was reserved for the Private Investors and Pre-ICO.
The exact date is not yet finalized but it is expected to start in the first week of October.

No, no. I seen this. On 1-st page:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

So, they sold all this tokens or only part of them?

as far as I know they sold all the tokens, though I could be wrong.. In any case it is not such a large sum for such a promising project

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Quote from: pynetx on September 21, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Quote from: magisterr on September 20, 2017, 11:36:35 PM

They raised full amount on pre-ico? (as in the announcement - 1.5 mln usd). For which period they raised this amount?
And when ll be start ICO? Can anyone give me exact date?

Not full amount but, the 15% which was reserved for the Private Investors and Pre-ICO.
The exact date is not yet finalized but it is expected to start in the first week of October.

No, no. I seen this. On 1-st page:
100 mln tokens for private investors (sold)
50 mln - Pre-ICO (sold)

So, they sold all this tokens or only part of them?

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on September 22, 2017, 06:47:42 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on September 22, 2017, 06:15:46 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on September 22, 2017, 04:02:26 AM

I still got a question regarding the 1% fee for the buyer and I am still not sure how the convertion of cryptocurrency to fiat works in detail.

If I understand correctly these 1% fee includes, besides a commission for UTrust, the fee that is necessary to convert from crypto to fiat on an exchange. So what happens if I buy something very cheap, maybe only worth $! or something like that and I want to pay with Bitcoin. In this case the 1 % of such a tiny amount won't be enough to convert it to fiat, right?

Isn't this a general problem as long as cryptos got transaction fees? UTrust always has to send the crypto currency from its Escrow to the exchange partner in order to get it converted. Who pays for these transactions? Because as I stated above I guess the 1% fee wont be enough to cover that.

Well that's an interesting question, but the 1% don't implement the normal transaction fees if I get the answer of the dev right.

Quote from: Kakumei on September 21, 2017, 02:24:34 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on September 20, 2017, 01:58:41 PM

But if you see it real, you still have more fees in addition to the 1% or? Buyer and seller need to deal also with transaction costs of the crypto, or do I see it wrong?

You would likely be correct. I will clarify this for you and post it here in the next update, but the network fee is probably still to be paid by the users themselves. Given that this will become cheaper and cheaper (IOTA is free, Litecoin will soon be too, etc), this should only add insignificant overhead.

Yeah, I understand it the same way.
But as long as there are huge transaction fees (or network fees) that add up on top of the 1% fee I could understand everyone who wants to stick to traditional payment options instead of UTrust. Unforunately that's something UTrust can't do very much about for now, besides adding the option to pay with the tx-fee-free cryptos like IOTA.

I am not so aware of the IOTA structure, as I got afraid of the claiming process, so I haven't hold me up to date. How do they compensate the tx-fee-free structure?

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Quote from: matjas on September 22, 2017, 09:17:44 AM

Quote from: s4mp1nt0 on September 22, 2017, 01:28:09 AM

Quote from: heru ardhianta on September 21, 2017, 11:58:18 PM

Lots of token supply on offer, if not sold 100% all token sisahnya whether to burning? if you see see token him quite a lot, but hopefully his token sold all and can run out

there's not a lot of token to be burn though if not all the token we're sold.
Utrust has raise a lot of money in the pre-ico. And it will catch the attention of the whale investor.

How much did they raise in pre ICO? Is hard to compete right now with the crisis and flood of ICOs, but they have some time to focus on advertising.

They raised 1.5m USD in pre-ICO. Before that they had a round for private investors where they raised 2m USD. Hardcap for crowdsale is 45.5m USD. Quite a lot, imo.

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I think the project is already quite old. Do not necessarily spend a lot on PR, it is better to spend money on the platform

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Quote from: s4mp1nt0 on September 22, 2017, 01:28:09 AM

Quote from: heru ardhianta on September 21, 2017, 11:58:18 PM

Lots of token supply on offer, if not sold 100% all token sisahnya whether to burning? if you see see token him quite a lot, but hopefully his token sold all and can run out

there's not a lot of token to be burn though if not all the token we're sold.
Utrust has raise a lot of money in the pre-ico. And it will catch the attention of the whale investor.

How much did they raise in pre ICO? Is hard to compete right now with the crisis and flood of ICOs, but they have some time to focus on advertising.

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🚀🚀 ATHERO.IO 🚀🚀

Quote from: toolucky98 on September 22, 2017, 08:14:16 AM

Quote from: be4zhuanom on September 22, 2017, 07:56:44 AM

The site have already change ?

What do you mean? what kind of change?

Check his recent posts. Only bs phrases you find in many threads by different "members" Grin

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Quote from: be4zhuanom on September 22, 2017, 07:56:44 AM

The site have already change ?

there is not changed anything. utrust project is same from starting to till now. i think you have confusion. but you are now came on right place. utrust project came here for beat paypal and other online payment services. this project is revolution project.

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Quote from: be4zhuanom on September 22, 2017, 07:56:44 AM

The site have already change ?

What do you mean? what kind of change?

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