Vaccination Started in India | Impact over Indian Economy & World?

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Quote from: South Park on February 03, 2021, 10:52:28 AM

That is really cheap, the other vaccines are many times more costly so this could be the only option for the government of India to vaccinate most of its population, however we must not only look at the cost India is such a huge country that reaching everyone is going to be difficult so we need to know at which temperatures the vaccine needs to be maintained so it does not lose its effectiveness along the way, after all if it needs the same temperatures as the vaccine of Pfizer then even at the low cost it may not be worth it.

From what I have heard, the vaccines from Pfizer needs to be stored in ultra-deep freezers, where temperatures of -70 degrees need to be maintained. But that is not the case with the two vaccines that are being used in India (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech). These two vaccines can be stored with regular refrigeration. The question is regarding the efficacy, and not about the cost or the logistic issues. The phase III trials for Covishied showed an efficacy of only 62%, which is far below the 95% level reported for Pfizer and Moderna. And the second vaccine (Covaxin) is yet to complete it's phase III trials.

Even if that efficiency is kind of low it is still good enough as it is better to have some protection than to have no protection at all, also I do not know but even if the efficiency is kind of low could this be increased by more vaccine being applied? Because as we know this world moves with money and the Pfizer vaccine costs 20 dollars, which is not much but when you have to vaccinate hundreds of millions of people that can quickly add up.

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Quote from: so98nn on January 16, 2021, 02:46:08 AM

What do you guys think about India and it’s economy ? Whether they will have advantage over other nations in grabbing more economic throughput due to vaccination??

I have already started seeing it in the news that their economy will be among the fast rising economies this year, although it was just the headline that I read, I didn’t bother much in checking what reasons because I didn’t read the news. But, if they have really started the vaccination, I believe it’s going to help them, once people gets back to work in every sectors it’s going to help in boosting their economies to a high level, and as have been predicted by so many media sites, they will be among the fastest growing economies this year.

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Quote from: South Park on February 03, 2021, 10:52:28 AM

That is really cheap, the other vaccines are many times more costly so this could be the only option for the government of India to vaccinate most of its population, however we must not only look at the cost India is such a huge country that reaching everyone is going to be difficult so we need to know at which temperatures the vaccine needs to be maintained so it does not lose its effectiveness along the way, after all if it needs the same temperatures as the vaccine of Pfizer then even at the low cost it may not be worth it.

From what I have heard, the vaccines from Pfizer needs to be stored in ultra-deep freezers, where temperatures of -70 degrees need to be maintained. But that is not the case with the two vaccines that are being used in India (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech). These two vaccines can be stored with regular refrigeration. The question is regarding the efficacy, and not about the cost or the logistic issues. The phase III trials for Covishied showed an efficacy of only 62%, which is far below the 95% level reported for Pfizer and Moderna. And the second vaccine (Covaxin) is yet to complete it's phase III trials.

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Quote from: Mauser on January 29, 2021, 03:48:23 PM

India is facing definitely a big obstabcle with their huge population compared to other countries. Also the size of the country makes vaccination centers a huge logistical problem. One good thing is that AstraZeneca is offering the cheapest corona vaccine at the moment for India. With a dose for the vaccine between $1-2 its much more affordable in large quantities compared to the Morderna or Pfizer vaccine.

That is really cheap, the other vaccines are many times more costly so this could be the only option for the government of India to vaccinate most of its population, however we must not only look at the cost India is such a huge country that reaching everyone is going to be difficult so we need to know at which temperatures the vaccine needs to be maintained so it does not lose its effectiveness along the way, after all if it needs the same temperatures as the vaccine of Pfizer then even at the low cost it may not be worth it.

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Quote from: Kimbe79229 on February 02, 2021, 01:56:44 AM

What worries Indian health experts and people is that the Covaxin vaccine approved by the Indian government has not yet completed the Phase III clinical safety and effectiveness test, and it was launched on the market to start mass vaccination, and the public did not choose which vaccine to receive during the vaccination process.

This is really alarming those vaccines I know was already shipped to neighboring countries for free usage is still in clinical trial mode? What if many sideffects in a human body will react after some days of vaccination I know this are inactivated vaccines which means they are from killed coronvirus and to be injected into humans to produce antibody to fight possible corona virus in the future which is in my opinion still very risky vaccine I hope this will not produce another disease once entered into human body source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124

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The safety of vaccines in India has always been questioned by Indians, and India has never produced any evidence to prove that the vaccine is okay. It can only be explained verbally, such as "India vaccine is 110% safe"

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What worries Indian health experts and people is that the Covaxin vaccine approved by the Indian government has not yet completed the Phase III clinical safety and effectiveness test, and it was launched on the market to start mass vaccination, and the public did not choose which vaccine to receive during the vaccination process.

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I have a doubt, India does have a billion population and i understand that the medical people will have the priority in getting the vaccines and there were reports that they will be exporting the vaccines as well, is it logically to export the medicine if they are not having the desired production to vaccinate their citizens before exporting them. I am not keen on taking the vaccination just yet but lets see the results and then i will consider.

The rate of vaccination is approx. 500,000 per day now and it is not easy to increase it all of a sudden. In order to vaccinate the Indian citizens, first they need to set up vaccination centers and train the staff. All this is being done, and within the next few weeks more than a million will undergo vaccination per day. At this moment, it is not desirable to hold back exports of the vaccine (contracts for which was signed many months back). Right now India do have enough vaccines for the priority population and the main challenge lies with logistics.

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It is said that vaccination starting all over the world now already has some sort of affect on the numbers, we are seeing less and less people dying and that is a good thing because that means we are getting back to regular world.

You can't stop the infection because people will spread it no matter what you do, but you could try to make vaccination so powerful that this virus would not give you even fever if you ever get it, it will be like you never had a thing, like how the asymptomatic people are right now, make everyone similar and even elderly do not die, and everyone who gets infected do not even realize it. If you make it that way, we could go out there without masks and live our life like nothing happened. But for that to happen, we have to continue to vaccinate everyone, and results needs to come back as good as this for a long time.

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Quote from: Mauser on January 29, 2021, 03:48:23 PM

India is facing definitely a big obstabcle with their huge population compared to other countries. Also the size of the country makes vaccination centers a huge logistical problem. One good thing is that AstraZeneca is offering the cheapest corona vaccine at the moment for India. With a dose for the vaccine between $1-2 its much more affordable in large quantities compared to the Morderna or Pfizer vaccine.

The advantage with India is that they don't need to vaccinate everyone, since most of the high-risk and floating population has already acquired antibodies against COVID 19. So if they vaccinate 20% to 30% of the population, it will be enough to prevent the spread further. The case is different in countries such as the US and UK, where infection rates are soaring. Yesterday, there were 140,732 new infections and 2,889 new deaths in the US, while for India it was 13,065 and 128 respectively.

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This has been my biggest worry the whole time, we do not have the means of production to vaccinate as many people, for the most part production facilities are not built until there is a demand for a specific product and the vaccines are going to take a lot of time to make, to distribute and to apply, we are already seeing supply issues with many countries receiving less than half of what they were promised and it does not seem as if this is going to improve anytime soon.

I have a doubt, India does have a billion population and i understand that the medical people will have the priority in getting the vaccines and there were reports that they will be exporting the vaccines as well, is it logically to export the medicine if they are not having the desired production to vaccinate their citizens before exporting them. I am not keen on taking the vaccination just yet but lets see the results and then i will consider.

India is facing definitely a big obstabcle with their huge population compared to other countries. Also the size of the country makes vaccination centers a huge logistical problem. One good thing is that AstraZeneca is offering the cheapest corona vaccine at the moment for India. With a dose for the vaccine between $1-2 its much more affordable in large quantities compared to the Morderna or Pfizer vaccine.

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Quote from: South Park on January 29, 2021, 02:07:48 PM

This has been my biggest worry the whole time, we do not have the means of production to vaccinate as many people, for the most part production facilities are not built until there is a demand for a specific product and the vaccines are going to take a lot of time to make, to distribute and to apply, we are already seeing supply issues with many countries receiving less than half of what they were promised and it does not seem as if this is going to improve anytime soon.

I have a doubt, India does have a billion population and i understand that the medical people will have the priority in getting the vaccines and there were reports that they will be exporting the vaccines as well, is it logically to export the medicine if they are not having the desired production to vaccinate their citizens before exporting them. I am not keen on taking the vaccination just yet but lets see the results and then i will consider.

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Vaccination starting in various places is an hope that the world might healed soon. And if this really works, would economy won't really have to be shut down again. The effect of the last lock down is still felt on our economies all around the world and most especially in the third world countries.

Vaccination was started more than a month back, and so far just 68.1 million doses have been administered. Considering the fact that you need two doses per person, a total of 15 billion is needed to inoculate the global population. Even for herd immunity, at least 30% of the population needs to be immune. Unless the manufacturing and distribution is stepped up by a factor of 10 or more, I don't have much hopes for this year.

This has been my biggest worry the whole time, we do not have the means of production to vaccinate as many people, for the most part production facilities are not built until there is a demand for a specific product and the vaccines are going to take a lot of time to make, to distribute and to apply, we are already seeing supply issues with many countries receiving less than half of what they were promised and it does not seem as if this is going to improve anytime soon.

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Quote from: kpierce77 on January 19, 2021, 06:53:50 AM

That's a pretty good step, but in determining whether the economy will progress after vaccination is still uncertain, and I'm sure the Indian government is definitely still waiting for the output of this vaccine. maybe after they get positive data, meaning that vaccinations go according to what they want or even exceed what they want, they will just start the next step in carrying out economic recovery and also other vital sectors

Yeah, one of the biggest country in term of population so it must be a challenge to carry out the process under safe and healthy circumstances.

Quote from: Mighty_crypt on January 19, 2021, 07:18:39 AM

So people are really taking this vaccines? Where are those idiots that said they will never take such vaccine that it's another mind controlling shit like illuminati stuff? Some are even saying the world order is trying to reduce the population of the people living on earth that the vaccine will kill many, people and there stupid conspiracy theories 😔😔😔 sigh!!

These kind of theories and such negative minded people exist everywhere but they should realize that the vaccine is something that is coming out after so many testing processes and after long time then it must be accurate and safe for them.

Some even claim that the virus was made in China, so all these theories are only jokes until someone comes up with any evidence or at least some logic behind their claims.

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India is not just vaccinating its own population, but also exporting the vaccine to other countries as well. A few days back, the Brazilian president thanked India for an emergency supply of 2 million doses of the vaccine. India has also provided large number of vaccine doses to all the neighboring countries (except Pakistan). By the end of this year, Indian manufactures will be producing more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine.

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1352794874567921664

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Let's hope India can stop the epidemic! The main thing is to be honest, and not as it was done in China, when a beautiful picture, positive indicators are issued in the media, but in fact the situation does not improve. I saw reports in which they told how they began to vaccinate, how it became easier for everyone, and how they essentially defeated the coronavirus. And at the same time, information comes out (January 2021):
- In China, a jump in coronavirus infections was recorded
Due to the increase in the number of coronavirus infections in Hebei province over the past few days, China is preparing for a possible new wave of the pandemic.
- In China, due to the outbreak of coronavirus, the 11 millionth city was closed
...etc.
In one word - good luck India!

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Quote from: so98nn on January 16, 2021, 02:46:08 AM

What do you guys think about India and it’s economy ? Whether they will have advantage over other nations in grabbing more economic throughput due to vaccination??

i think the question have been asked before but it wasnt in india but its china . china was the first country to recover from the first version of covid and its been also ask if china can gain an advatage and people answered yes . that was true actualy because later on we saw china creating and supplying items that help other countries recover . the same thing can also happen on india , i see that india creates their own vaccine and if proven effective and no signs of side effects , they can also market it to ther countries and make profit out of it .

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No one rushed things it was the world leaders and pharma companies only who have rushed things. Trust me daily life at least in my city has become pretty normal despite the growing number of cases that we are getting. Moreover, I feel now most of the cases are going unreported as only those who become seriously ill worry about seeing a doctor. If you have a conversation with anyone they aren't really much excited about the vaccine. They have realized that they have to live with COVID no matter how it goes ahead. Yes there is a class of people who want to be vaccinated and there was some pressure from the opposition but literally speaking, there was zero pressure from citizens in respect of vaccination in India.

That is the scary part, life getting back to regular world like nothing happened while the numbers are still increasing daily and we are having so many dead people.

Governments are the reason for this as well, if they had collected taxes properly and didn't spend it on themselves or their friends and other rich people, they would have been capable of taxing the super elite rich (and I am talking about like the richest 10 person, not everyone, so do not be worried it is not about you) we could have collectively stay at home, and everyone would be fine, all your income would be paid by the government and you would be capable of living without a problem.

Obviously that didn't happen because governments are corrupt all around the world and they just said "we are not going to pay you your taxes back, instead go out there and die in thousands and pay us taxes from your income during the pandemic". Which is horrific and disgusting.

I don't think it's objectively true. If you Run a business you will know that how many subjectives and insurgencies are involved in it. And compare this with running a whole nation. Also take into effect that these are democracies and each action is held accountable. Even the lockdown was opposed by many people around the globe so there is no one spot solutions available with the governments. Life was obviously going to be normal you can't teach people how to live for a long time. This is the way it is. But yes one thing I would like to praise about Indian government the vaccine roll out so far has been quite smooth and Swift and is going at a good pace. The effects will be known in some time but until now it has been completely safe. So I think the vaccines have proved to be successful in India.

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We have yet to see the results of all these vaccinations with drugs that have not been clinically tested. People should understand that in this way the government makes experiments on its people. Of course, everyone is trying to overcome coronavirus, but still it should not be a risk for many lives.

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Quote from: teosanru on January 21, 2021, 05:38:34 AM

No one rushed things it was the world leaders and pharma companies only who have rushed things. Trust me daily life at least in my city has become pretty normal despite the growing number of cases that we are getting. Moreover, I feel now most of the cases are going unreported as only those who become seriously ill worry about seeing a doctor. If you have a conversation with anyone they aren't really much excited about the vaccine. They have realized that they have to live with COVID no matter how it goes ahead. Yes there is a class of people who want to be vaccinated and there was some pressure from the opposition but literally speaking, there was zero pressure from citizens in respect of vaccination in India.

That is the scary part, life getting back to regular world like nothing happened while the numbers are still increasing daily and we are having so many dead people.

Governments are the reason for this as well, if they had collected taxes properly and didn't spend it on themselves or their friends and other rich people, they would have been capable of taxing the super elite rich (and I am talking about like the richest 10 person, not everyone, so do not be worried it is not about you) we could have collectively stay at home, and everyone would be fine, all your income would be paid by the government and you would be capable of living without a problem.

Obviously that didn't happen because governments are corrupt all around the world and they just said "we are not going to pay you your taxes back, instead go out there and die in thousands and pay us taxes from your income during the pandemic". Which is horrific and disgusting.

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