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Topic: Vanity Pool - vanity address generator pool - page 23. (Read 147800 times)

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November 23, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
At least oclvanityminer doesn't recognize it (it isn't in the list of minable adresses it dumps when I use it).

http://fizzisist.com/mining-value/api/vanitypool-value doesn't seem to like it (in fact I was made aware of this address pattern when I found out that vanitypool-value was not available anymore).

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately, I can't figure out what's going wrong here. Initially, I thought it was just that bkkcoins' vanitycalc module doesn't accept namecoin addresses, but I modified it just now and it still doesn't like 'NPhaux' with addrtype = 52. Since the vanitycalc module is a python wrapper for the difficulty checker in vanitygen, I think this is an issue with vanitygen. Or, NPhaux isn't a valid namecoin prefix (although I don't see why not).

ThePiachu, how are you calculating "complexity?" Did you write some tool of your own to do this? On another note, why oh why do you multiply the value by 2^32 to get "lavishness?" As I tried to plead before, the terms "difficulty" and "value" are perfectly applicable here, and are an established convention in vanitygen. Furthermore, value, as defined in vanitygen, is a meaningful quantity: reward / key. A user can take this number and multiply it by their key/s rate and figure out their expected reward. Multiplying by 2^32 just makes it that much harder for the user. Creating some new, arbitrary units when there are perfectly good ones already is almost a sin in the scientific community. Of course, if you can justify the creation of some new units, fine, but I don't see the justification for these ones.
sr. member
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November 23, 2012, 07:05:14 AM
currently when I start the miner, it says: 0.000008 BTC/Gkey.

using the 16MKey/s my lowly card puts out, I get: 0.000008 * 0.016*60*60*24 = 0.011 BTC/day

comparing that to 0.0896 BTC/day (300 MHash/s) traditional mining it looks to me vanity mining is currently 11% as profitable as traditionl mining.

Am I making some mistake?

This ->

At least oclvanityminer doesn't recognize it (it isn't in the list of minable adresses it dumps when I use it).
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Activity: 2772
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November 23, 2012, 06:20:33 AM
Mining something that's 7812 times as profitable as regular bitcoin mining is turning out to be too good to be true.

how do you come up with that number?

From Pool's main page. I calculate the mining ratio with equations that can be found here:

https://vanitypool.appspot.com/faq

currently when I start the miner, it says: 0.000008 BTC/Gkey.

using the 16MKey/s my lowly card puts out, I get: 0.000008 * 0.016*60*60*24 = 0.011 BTC/day

comparing that to 0.0896 BTC/day (300 MHash/s) traditional mining it looks to me vanity mining is currently 11% as profitable as traditionl mining.

Am I making some mistake?
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
November 23, 2012, 05:35:53 AM
Mining something that's 7812 times as profitable as regular bitcoin mining is turning out to be too good to be true.

how do you come up with that number?

From Pool's main page. I calculate the mining ratio with equations that can be found here:

https://vanitypool.appspot.com/faq
donator
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November 23, 2012, 05:30:09 AM
Mining something that's 7812 times as profitable as regular bitcoin mining is turning out to be too good to be true.

how do you come up with that number?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
November 23, 2012, 12:39:20 AM
Using vanitygen, vanitygen64, or oclvanitygen, I get an error saying something like "valid namecoin addresses start with M or N" when I try NP followed by anything. However if I just try N, M, or N followed by a few random keys I tried (like 1 and x I think along with a few others) I can generate a Namecoin address. Using oclvanityminer doesn't even attempt to mine the namecoin address at all it seems.

Mining something that's 7812 times as profitable as regular bitcoin mining is turning out to be too good to be true.
hero member
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November 22, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
At least oclvanityminer doesn't recognize it (it isn't in the list of minable adresses it dumps when I use it).

http://fizzisist.com/mining-value/api/vanitypool-value doesn't seem to like it (in fact I was made aware of this address pattern when I found out that vanitypool-value was not available anymore).
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
November 22, 2012, 02:45:57 PM
Is it just me or is it impossible to find the NPhaux Namecoin address that is currently setting the mining ratio to 7812? Is an address starting with NP invalid for namecoin?

Hmm, I don't see why not. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_address_prefixes appears to match up, but then again, this is the first non-Bitcoin address. It could be that my Pool is not handling it properly, or perhaps the miner defaults to mining addresses with a prefix of 1.
sr. member
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November 22, 2012, 02:41:21 PM
Is it just me or is it impossible to find the NPhaux Namecoin address that is currently setting the mining ratio to 7812? Is an address starting with NP invalid for namecoin?
sr. member
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November 08, 2012, 04:58:29 AM
Bitcoin Friday update!

https://vanitypool.appspot.com/

Special promotion for the Bitcoin Friday - 1% fee, new address pricing model (get your vanity address for as low as 0.01BTC), some other updates. Mine those addresses while they are hot!;)
sr. member
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November 04, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
Cool to see it's viable. Thanks for your hard work!

EDIT: I wouldn't mind a fee to help paying for site operation.

Well, the site has a donation address and a fee is taken from each solved work. If you want to help the website grow, you can either donate or place some orders for a vanity address or a couple;).

I don't expect the site to be making much of a profit for awhile, but I'll continue to improve it slowly in my spare time based on feedback. On the plus side, hosting everything on the cloud makes my startup and operation costs low for now...
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Activity: 2772
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November 04, 2012, 07:21:31 AM
Hey guys, I'm still following what's happening here and I still very much like vanitypool.

One question: Would it be technically feasable to reduce the dependance on luck by accepting solutions to "lower-difficulty" sub-patterns (for example by omitting the last character) and then, once one of these solutions also matches the "real pattern", distribute the reward amongst the providers of these lower-difficulty solutions.

I'm sure you've pondered this, right?

It would probably make me contribute again. Currently, there's just too much luck involved for me.

Yes, it is possible, but at the moment I don't have the time to implement it, not to mention that it could potentially drive up the costs of running the website a bit. Since I'm hosting this on Google App Engine, every read/write operation needs to be paid for. I tried implementing a pool on GAE that was keeping track of shares and my free quota didn't last very long with one miner. When the Pool will start generating a viable traffic I will look into implementing this solution.

For now I'm looking into more fair work pricing, so that smaller addresses that don't take too long to mine would be more encouraged.

Cool to see it's viable. Thanks for your hard work!

EDIT: I wouldn't mind a fee to help paying for site operation.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
November 04, 2012, 06:22:54 AM
Hey guys, I'm still following what's happening here and I still very much like vanitypool.

One question: Would it be technically feasable to reduce the dependance on luck by accepting solutions to "lower-difficulty" sub-patterns (for example by omitting the last character) and then, once one of these solutions also matches the "real pattern", distribute the reward amongst the providers of these lower-difficulty solutions.

I'm sure you've pondered this, right?

It would probably make me contribute again. Currently, there's just too much luck involved for me.

Yes, it is possible, but at the moment I don't have the time to implement it, not to mention that it could potentially drive up the costs of running the website a bit. Since I'm hosting this on Google App Engine, every read/write operation needs to be paid for. I tried implementing a pool on GAE that was keeping track of shares and my free quota didn't last very long with one miner. When the Pool will start generating a viable traffic I will look into implementing this solution.

For now I'm looking into more fair work pricing, so that smaller addresses that don't take too long to mine would be more encouraged.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
November 04, 2012, 05:44:41 AM
Hey guys, I'm still following what's happening here and I still very much like vanitypool.

One question: Would it be technically feasable to reduce the dependance on luck by accepting solutions to "lower-difficulty" sub-patterns (for example by omitting the last character) and then, once one of these solutions also matches the "real pattern", distribute the reward amongst the providers of these lower-difficulty solutions.

I'm sure you've pondered this, right?

It would probably make me contribute again. Currently, there's just too much luck involved for me.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
November 02, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
I'm glad everything is working fine for you now and congratulations on the difficult address!

I've been adding new features to the next update of the Vanity Pool. I will launch it on Bitcoin Friday (9th of November), or a bit before that along with some bonus for the day for the miners. The following day the bonus will be gone, but the changes will stay Wink.
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Activity: 3108
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November 02, 2012, 05:53:04 AM
Many thanks, it's now working fine & I have the sum, sorry it was late at night when I tried before & for some reason I had an incorrect 2nd private key - now I rechecked & it's all fine, my apologies for the extra work & my thanks to the solvers - especially whoever just solved the hardest to date with 9 chars after the initial 1 & claimed the highest bounty paid out so far (though it wasn't much considering the difficulty unless one was very lucky).

1ELiZABETH for 3.18 btc before commission ---> 2.544 btc.
sr. member
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November 02, 2012, 05:43:52 AM
it doesn't go to a blank page now but instead reports: Private keys are invalid

Hmm, that is strange. I've added more clearer error message displays to the test suite to indicate which private key would be invalid. I spent some time analysing the code, and it appears to be working fine. It takes private keys from 1 to FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25E8CD0364140, and the error you experienced is only displayed if the key is bigger than the latter number, or smaller than 1. In other words, it shouldn't be happening, as I've tried out the solution in the testing suite (it works fine), and I reckon you have also previously used your private key with success. If the testing suite acts up still, let me know which key is to blame - the solution, or yours (it will be displayed).

Alternatively, you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ , as its Vanity Address option uses the additive method.
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November 01, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
it doesn't go to a blank page now but instead reports: Private keys are invalid
sr. member
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November 01, 2012, 05:18:22 PM
Nope, it just goes to a blank page atm like it's stuck or something

Hmm, I have updated the testing site to properly pad public keys. I hope that will solve your problem as well.
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November 01, 2012, 04:03:08 PM
Nope, it just goes to a blank page atm like it's stuck or something

Wow, that's the most annoying sig I've seen. Welcome to /ignore.


LOL - BFL paid me to pimp them in my sig, I hoped to get a balance between getting attention for them & being annoying, obviously it's a fine line & I'm sorry that you've found it annoying, as it happens their last month's rental of my sig space ran out a few days ago & as I don't post every day on the forums as they require I doubt that they will offer to pay me to continue advertising for them so I expect that the sig will revert to something less in your face very soon, I am a big fan of BFL btw which is why I was happy to promote them.
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