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Topic: VectorDash - Rent GPUs to AI researchers. $7.68 per 1080ti per day - page 2. (Read 2962 times)

full member
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Will it support windows. I'm ready to geek out and build an ai mining rig to spec if this works. Mining coins is dead. This is the new frontier gold Rush
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i didnt reciedved link for downloads yet coz:
We'll be reaching out to hosts individually once you've been chosen for a batch!

and i think i will give a try on 5 pcs at least .... problem is not in hw itself still can be sold as gaming pc with easy
problem in "my city" is in connectivity ... yes my home is under optic fiber but mining place has only 5Mb up now and if dev need 15Mb for 1 gpu ......
member
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Anyone gave it a try yet ?
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0

There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?


- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell

I think the site is pretty clear about the income per card.  The requirements are not that extreme.  I'm not an AI or research expert but I have quite a bit of experience running Folding@Home for Curecoin.  In that instance each GPU would take up a whole CPU core and lower PCIE bandwidth equaled lower performance.  I don't think its unreasonable for this site to require basic specs that you would find a in a data center.  You can get an older Xeon cpu and mobo for dirt cheap on ebay.  This service is essentially renting your machine out as a cloud server.  Their aim isn't someone running 8 cards on a shitty Chinese motherboard from Alibaba with a celeron embedded chip.

Sorry for my ignorance about the some new hardware and requirement.
Of course a better CPU, a better motherboard is needed for higher requirement.
But for increasing revenue, people will try to optimize their configuration.
sr. member
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The only prohibitive issue I can see is the amount of PCIE 3.0 x8 or x16 slots.... that rules out all of the mining specific motherboards.  The amount of hard drive space is a potential issue too, but that can be solved. This could possibly work well for our personal desktops since they all meet the requirements and could make some $ while doing office type work at the same time. I'm curious if they really only use 1 CPU core or not though...
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Activity: 1179
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There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?


- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell

I think the site is pretty clear about the income per card.  The requirements are not that extreme.  I'm not an AI or research expert but I have quite a bit of experience running Folding@Home for Curecoin.  In that instance each GPU would take up a whole CPU core and lower PCIE bandwidth equaled lower performance.  I don't think its unreasonable for this site to require basic specs that you would find a in a data center.  You can get an older Xeon cpu and mobo for dirt cheap on ebay.  This service is essentially renting your machine out as a cloud server.  Their aim isn't someone running 8 cards on a shitty Chinese motherboard from Alibaba with a celeron embedded chip.
full member
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Rent gpu to AI researchers?

Sorry but I call this BS phishing attempt, mainly because why would any serious AI researchers first turn to a miner forum - regular people, instead of going to some high class universities/ some other institutes...etc. anywhere in the world and collaborate with their departments there?
I'm sure lots of universities/institutes would be open for these kinds of things and are well funded for these kind of projects if there's a good initiative...

If it's fishy, it's usually because it is...

just my 2 cents.

Ever heard of Folding@Home?  Stanford University a very well off private college uses GPUs from regular people all over the world to research diseases.  Universities aren't exactly bottomless pits of money.
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Activity: 144
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There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?


- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
so i recieved minimum requirements (by mail):
i dont say its something expensive, but still its not what a common miner can offer in great numbers (like 30 gpu with 5 cpus .... this means i need to buy rests for 30 PCs ... or for 5 at least)
till i dont know income per day, its "a bit huge" investment


For each GPU you plan on hosting, your machine should have at least:

a PCIe 3.0 x8 or x16 slot
1 CPU Core from one of the following CPUs (or equivalent):
Intel i5 or above
Intel Xeon
AMD Ryzen or AMD EPYC
4+ GB RAM for Nvidia 1070 and below, 8+ GB of RAM for Nvidia 1070ti and above
50+ GB Storage per GPU
Internet upload & download speeds of at least 15 Mbps


There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?
jr. member
Activity: 140
Merit: 2
Seems prohibitive at any sort of scale.
newbie
Activity: 210
Merit: 0
Exactly what I thought when I got their email today. Not many miners can provide this.
member
Activity: 144
Merit: 10
so i recieved minimum requirements (by mail):
i dont say its something expensive, but still its not what a common miner can offer in great numbers (like 30 gpu with 5 cpus .... this means i need to buy rests for 30 PCs ... or for 5 at least)
till i dont know income per day, its "a bit huge" investment


For each GPU you plan on hosting, your machine should have at least:

a PCIe 3.0 x8 or x16 slot
1 CPU Core from one of the following CPUs (or equivalent):
Intel i5 or above
Intel Xeon
AMD Ryzen or AMD EPYC
4+ GB RAM for Nvidia 1070 and below, 8+ GB of RAM for Nvidia 1070ti and above
50+ GB Storage per GPU
Internet upload & download speeds of at least 15 Mbps
newbie
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Merit: 0
Welcome to QQ group to discuss vectordash: 532749652
hero member
Activity: 1218
Merit: 534
Guys be careful... There's some info missing on that site. Company information, min payout etc etc.. Are you really giving some anonymous person access to your system?
They also wanna know how much disk space you got etc.

Just think of it. With access to your system, they could easily:

- host warez, illegal porn, illegal software, illegal services, ...
- install mallware
- use your server as a proxy
- use your server as part of a botnet
...

Be careful folks, that's all I'm saying.


Its better than to mine and to owe for electricity. You go in jail that way too Smiley

Or you don't mine when you can't pay for electricity.... Or you don't go to the store to buy something when you don't have the money...  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 273
Merit: 12
Its a very viable platform, now the support for any GPU under a 1080/1070 is a little ridiculous. This is what Golem is doing, but being released a lot earlier and without millions in funding required. His cut is 50%, so its very viable for this to be applicable, and if done correctly this could take off. Ofcourse many places will not go to a company that just started, but if they were to use funding to advertise and contract with companies and schools at a lower rate than they are advertising it could easily take off and become like a nicehash but for rendering and machine learning, etc.
newbie
Activity: 73
Merit: 0
Guys be careful... There's some info missing on that site. Company information, min payout etc etc.. Are you really giving some anonymous person access to your system?
They also wanna know how much disk space you got etc.

Just think of it. With access to your system, they could easily:

- host warez, illegal porn, illegal software, illegal services, ...
- install mallware
- use your server as a proxy
- use your server as part of a botnet
...

Be careful folks, that's all I'm saying.


Its better than to mine and to owe for electricity. You go in jail that way too Smiley
jr. member
Activity: 140
Merit: 2
Many good points have been made and I agree with most. My biggest concern would be that even if it gets going, it will flounder and be abandoned in a few months without focused, mature leadership. It is easy to have a good idea and show small scale proof of concept, much harder to scale it and stay with it in a competitive environment.
member
Activity: 144
Merit: 10
Guys be careful... There's some info missing on that site. Company information, min payout etc etc.. Are you really giving some anonymous person access to your system?
They also wanna know how much disk space you got etc.

Just think of it. With access to your system, they could easily:

- host warez, illegal porn, illegal software, illegal services, ...
- install mallware
- use your server as a proxy
- use your server as part of a botnet
...

Be careful folks, that's all I'm saying.

i think the reason for hdd space question is that very much of miners using linux runing on usb flash drive etc
but yes i understand to be carful anyway
sr. member
Activity: 784
Merit: 282
Just read the original reddit post. It is highly unlikely that any legitimate research (who is willing to pay big dollars), would work on an untested unfinished platform built by a student. I earlier said I would try this but after reading the information available i'd likely stay away until maybe the founder graduates from school.

Just my 2 sats.
hero member
Activity: 649
Merit: 505
Economically it makes a lot of sense.... LIKE A LOT ... not many infrastructure have the firepower of miners... and this because IT infrastructures have to use  , thanks also to the new nvidia license agreement,  specifically designed hardware such as quadro and tesla which are the VERY SAME chipsets of gaming cards , maybe silicon quality is better to ensure 24/7 stability but performance wise that means nothing... too bad these chips cost 10 - 20x the price of the very same chipset specifically designed for gaming .....


the website unfortunately looks very  unprofessional , so the scam alert is high .... i registered anyway and looking forward to test this.
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