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Topic: Venezuela - communists are falling, so might btc - page 2. (Read 313 times)

legendary
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Venezuela's economy will take a long time to recover, so the Bitcoin sales will continue for a few more years. We thought that the political change in Zimbabwe would fix all their economic problems when President Mugabe was removed, but we were wrong, because the streets are burning and the authorities are killing people again.

Political changes does not guarantee immediate economic recovery in a country.  Wink Also, many of those Bitcoin buyers will not trust the government and they will hold those bitcoins as security.  Wink
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Due to rampant inflation/corruption in Venezuela, quite a substantial percentage of the population had chucked their investments into btc.

Looks like the political problem might be resolved shortly, if it does btc will fall if currency controls are relaxed and the population feel more comfortable.

Expect a 15/20% fall as a result.
Under these circumstances, Bitcoin can only be updated in Venezuela itself. On the world market of cryptocurrency, this will not have significant value. Just why the communists are falling in Venezuela? Is the Maduro regime communist? In addition, the military coup there the other day failed, several dozen military arrested. Another thing is interesting: how will pensioners survive there, receiving a pension in El-Petro?
legendary
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Due to rampant inflation/corruption in Venezuela, quite a substantial percentage of the population had chucked their investments into btc.
wrong.
mostly because you have to way of proving this and your stats saying "substantial percentage of population" is only your guess. there has been an increase in number of people investing in bitcoin and getting involved with it but most of it was NOT because of corruption,... it was due to the fact that cryptocurrencies have been advertised a lot in the past two years because they wanted to introduce their own cryptocurrency (Petrol) and needed the awareness increased.

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Looks like the political problem might be resolved shortly, if it does btc will fall if currency controls are relaxed and the population feel more comfortable.
@gentlemand mentioned an important fact, additionally Venezuelans aren't trading bitcoin on regular exchanges such as Coinbase, Kraken, Bitstamp,... which are determining the price which means whether they buy or sell it won't change the price.
legendary
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Venezuela is the least of your problems as a BTC hodler. The USD is racking up trillions upon trillions worth of debt, Trump has the government on freeze for all time records, Euro is facing a massive crisis with Brexit, Greece and other countries.

This is a time for gold and Bitcoin. If anything, it is a always a time for gold and Bitcoin. Since when can you trust with 100% of your portfolio in non-neutral assets? it's a dumb idea.
But specially given the current geopolitical clusterfuck I don't find good arguments to dump Bitcoin and gold and go all in on the S&P500 and similar.
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Venezuela is very small economically. And the use of Bitcoin over there was a lot more marketing than something concrete, unfortunately. It will not have big impacts if there is a big sale of BTC over there. Even because the economy will still be destroyed for a long time. And there is still a possibility of some internal strife and perhaps even civil war.

btw, Trump has recognizes opposition leader as president
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Any article to share about the political turmoil in Venezuela getting resolved?

Do you have statistics to verify that indeed Venezuela holds as much as 15%-20%? Because I'm assuming that this is your argument in the beginning.

But If I have bitcoins stash somewhere else, I just wouldn't dump it right away just because the political problem has been resolved. Based on my experienced living in a country wherein a political dictator was ousted many years ago and a promise of a new system and change, our country still hasn't improved and corruption/inflation still exists even today. Not a smart moved for Venezuelan to "crazy dump".
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Locals can't get to foreign exchanges to dump or buy so there is no wider effect no matter what happens there. We see this in plenty of countries. In Iran the price was double the market rate elsewhere for a while. It's in a bubble so it'll be ignored by everywhere else.

Well not since the internet was removed, but prior to that, lots of the population bought btc from foreign exchanges for various reasons. Suspect this money will be repatriates soonish.
legendary
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If you bought btc in Venezuela your probably smart enough not to use a local exchange. So yes your right but that wan't my point.

Without an exchange there's no way of setting the price. Localbitcoins will create its own prices either by referring abroad or settling on what local people will accept which is the more likely one considering how hopeless the local economy is. Both scenarios mean Venezuela has absolutely no effect on the Bitcoin price.

Locals can't get to foreign exchanges to dump or buy so there is no wider effect no matter what happens there. We see this in plenty of countries. In Iran the price was double the market rate elsewhere for a while. It's in a bubble so it'll be ignored by everywhere else.
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There are no Venezuelan exchanges worth bothering with.

If you bought btc in Venezuela your probably smart enough not to use a local exchange. So yes your right but that wan't my point.
legendary
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There are no Venezuelan exchanges worth bothering with. Venezuelan volumes on Localbitcoins are the easiest accessible metric. Volume last week was 1100 BTC. That's nothing.

Venezuela has zero effect on prices. It being transformed by the power of crypto is a story rolled out by Bitcoin fans to make themselves feel more special.
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Due to rampant inflation/corruption in Venezuela, quite a substantial percentage of the population had chucked their investments into btc.

Looks like the political problem might be resolved shortly, if it does btc will fall if currency controls are relaxed and the population feel more comfortable.

Expect a 15/20% fall as a result.
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