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newbie
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August 26, 2014, 09:51:20 AM
#55
wow 75m return on a measley 1.25m investment.
Why not go to the bank. I am sure thwy would love that kind of return ?
Does the 1.25m investor get to see I.D ?

regardless - good luck, brah

Obviously there would be a legitimate identity confirmation on both parties ends.
newbie
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August 26, 2014, 09:49:46 AM
#54
Bump
Email [email protected]
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
#53
wow 75m return on a measley 1.25m investment.
Why not go to the bank. I am sure thwy would love that kind of return ?
Does the 1.25m investor get to see I.D ?

regardless - good luck, brah
10c
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June 05, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
#52

i have had a bit of constructive input from a few sr members via private message, ill implement all of it in my second approach and self mod to delete these mindless ignorant posts

thanks!

I'm not the flaming type but you should really check out bitcoin and what makes it tick first
Saying constructive input from sr members is not helping your case here.... Most of us actually have alarm bells ringing when we hear sr.... mostly drug dealers and scammers..... Roll Eyes

On a more serious note you should probably cut some costs and exchange your fiat savings in bitcoin.
we net a 12000% profit over 30 months by a simple buy and hold strategy*

*past performance is in no way a guarantee for future performance although you should be fine
sr. member
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June 05, 2014, 11:52:54 AM
#51
Is there any proof you can give that you are actually associated with the festival??? Your gmail account looks to me like "I am scammer" - if you would be associated with festival why not having e-mail at lunarmassive.com domain???
 

SCAM ALERT!!! (not proven, just alert)
sr. member
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June 03, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
#50
Why would anyone want to read the a 40 page business plan from someone with just ludicrous claims of gains to be made in the first sentence they ever read from the guy.  

Take your search for mugs elsewhere mate.  
sr. member
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May 11, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
#49

While I can see a lot of hyperbole in this thread, such as the return he is looking to provide I feel it is unfair for you to judge it without reading his documents.

That being said, the length of the document has very little relevance as to the quality of the business/its leaders.

Thank you, this is all I have been trying to say.

You're definitely right though, this particular 40 page document isn't a 5 year olds story as NotLambChop implied, but a very well strategized and presented business plan.

I wish more people on this forum would realize the logic in your point on judging. :/



I'm not personally able to comment on the quality of your business plan however your presentation on here has not been the most professional. I would advise against the use of smiley/un-smiley faces. Also more transparency is needed, such as proof of ownership, proof of identity and you also need to get listed on an exchange like Havelock or CounterParty.
newbie
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May 11, 2014, 05:09:55 PM
#48

While I can see a lot of hyperbole in this thread, such as the return he is looking to provide I feel it is unfair for you to judge it without reading his documents.

That being said, the length of the document has very little relevance as to the quality of the business/its leaders.

Thank you, this is all I have been trying to say.

You're definitely right though, this particular 40 page document isn't a 5 year olds story as NotLambChop implied, but a very well strategized and presented business plan.

I wish more people on this forum would realize the logic in your point on judging. :/

sr. member
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May 11, 2014, 05:08:53 PM
#47
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No.  I don't need to read OP's most recent typings to judge OP, this thread told me all I need to know.
But you're entitled to ur feels.
sr. member
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May 11, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
#46
Bump so no one falls for this trash (he is trying to re-submit this garbage)


who are you? have you read his 40 page document?

Typing up 40 pages is a big accomplishment for a five-year-old.  Anyone older?  Not so much.
(And who are *you*, btw?)

While I can see a lot of hyperbole in this thread, such as the return he is looking to provide I feel it is unfair for you to judge it without reading his documents.

That being said, the length of the document has very little relevance as to the quality of the business/its leaders.
sr. member
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May 11, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
#45
Bump so no one falls for this trash (he is trying to re-submit this garbage)


who are you? have you read his 40 page document?

Typing up 40 pages is a big accomplishment for a five-year-old.  Anyone older?  Not so much.
(And who are *you*, btw?)
legendary
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May 11, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
#44
Bump so no one falls for this trash (he is trying to re-submit this garbage)


who are you? have you read his 40 page document?
newbie
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April 24, 2014, 08:38:24 AM
#43
There are Professional Trolls in these parts, sure, but part of vetting a business is trying to poke as many holes in the plan as possible. This will still happen in a moderated setting, albeit with less chaos.

I definitely understand that, my problem is that without seeing my business plan I don't see how it could be constructively vetted. In my next approach I will try to make it more succinct and professional and hopefully just have a reasonable business conversation. As a few key facets of the plan are confidential (which I understand has been used as a bogus "excuse" in the past here), it makes it more difficult to have an open conversation about the entire plan. I'm not looking for an IPO though, moreso a few key investors, so this plan won't just be offered into the publics hands for debate.
I will post what I can, and ideally the way I would like for it to happen (let me know if this is possible in a forum setting, I'm not really that much of a forum junkie) is to have a thread with the basis of the idea as much information as I feel comfortable sharing with the public in a self modded setting, and then a separate thread that would be invite only for private viewing. I could use the private thread to invite only the people who have signed the NDA and seen the entire business plan so that we could have an in-depth conversation regarding the intricacies of it, and use the initial public thread as merely the gateway to link interested parties to it.
The only problem I see with this is that I have only had one person sign the NDA thus far and check the plan out. I think it is mostly due to the way this thread has, as jimmothy so eloquently stated, "gone to shit".
So hopefully in a self modded, non-derailed setting, I can have a legitimate enough conversation with interested parties that I can have a little more valid participation.

Let me know if that seems like something that would work here. Smiley

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Tomorrowland - $100,000,000 - 75% ownership

I'm pretty sure that's not true.

Edit: I checked this and SFX bought ID&T, the company behind tomorrowland. But the organizers Manu & Michiel Beers bought back 100% of tomorrowland's shares.

sorry i'm Belgian, tomorrowland is like my baby, telling it's 75% in american hands makes me nervous. Tomorrowland is still Belgian, phew...don't scare me like that!

Yeah sorry that is more specifically what happened, SFX owns 75% of the ID&T company, but the original owners of Tomorrowland bought back the rights to Tomorrowland itself.
ID&T throws many other shows though like Mysteryland etc all through Europe, and the primary reason for the acquisition of the company was to have the rights to bring the Tomorrowland and Mysteryland brands to America to exploit the exploding festival scene that is going on. Tomorrowland was their baby though and they didn't want to risk anything happen to it. Sorry to have worried you Smiley

I don't think the paid trolls have anything to do with this thread turning to shit.

It has more to do with the absurd/unprofessional money grab from the OP.

As for "mindless ignorant posts" I would say the OP is the most ignorant post here. You create a title akin to "send me money for 5000% return" and expect us to take it seriously.

Get real.

I wouldn't go so far as absurd, it was not as professional of an initial outreach as I could have done, and that is my fault for not investigating my target audience as much as I should have. I assumed there were members of all kinds of this forum (which I'm sure there are, the active ones are more of a professional-demanding mold though) so my pitch was more catered to appealing to everyone who might view it.
Trust me when I say that 5000% is not an outlandish amount though. I would be more than glad to explain why, but to see all of the details I will have to ask you to sign a mutual NDA.

I will be making another post in the near future that I hope can please everyone and start some forward progress. I sense that there is some interest but having heard of all of the scamming that has gone on in the recent past I understand why there is a lot of skepticism.
Looking forward to speaking with everyone again soon.
hero member
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April 23, 2014, 11:34:39 PM
#42
I don't think the paid trolls have anything to do with this thread turning to shit.

It has more to do with the absurd/unprofessional money grab from the OP.

As for "mindless ignorant posts" I would say the OP is the most ignorant post here. You create a title akin to "send me money for 5000% return" and expect us to take it seriously.

Get real.
sr. member
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I want free lunch, i'm gonna go with this guy.
April 23, 2014, 08:30:41 PM
#41
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Tomorrowland - $100,000,000 - 75% ownership

I'm pretty sure that's not true.

Edit: I checked this and SFX bought ID&T, the company behind tomorrowland. But the organizers Manu & Michiel Beers bought back 100% of tomorrowland's shares.


sorry i'm Belgian, tomorrowland is like my baby, telling it's 75% in american hands makes me nervous. Tomorrowland is still Belgian, phew...don't scare me like that!
full member
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April 23, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
#40
I thought people would be more open minded here given the mindset behind being an early adopter, apparently it's just as full of trolls as the rest of the Internet.

There are about 3 or 4 regular Trolls on here and they are very active.

The main Troll sponsor and poster is Mirceau Popescu - he runs a bitcoin exchange called MPEx. Anything and everything that could draw coin away from his site is Trolled. It doesn't matter how valid the proposition or company, he and his goons will Troll it.
Without them here you could have a sensible debate and present your case but it turns to delinquency when they are around and before you know it your thread is a joke.

If you are passionate about this you could try again with a self-moderated thread and monitor and delete Troll posts. It will work eventually.

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great idea, thanks!
i'll get on that soon
i have had a bit of constructive input from a few sr members via private message, ill implement all of it in my second approach and self mod to delete these mindless ignorant posts

thanks!

There are Professional Trolls in these parts, sure, but part of vetting a business is trying to poke as many holes in the plan as possible. This will still happen in a moderated setting, albeit with less chaos.
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 23, 2014, 07:52:01 PM
#39
I thought people would be more open minded here given the mindset behind being an early adopter, apparently it's just as full of trolls as the rest of the Internet.

There are about 3 or 4 regular Trolls on here and they are very active.

The main Troll sponsor and poster is Mirceau Popescu - he runs a bitcoin exchange called MPEx. Anything and everything that could draw coin away from his site is Trolled. It doesn't matter how valid the proposition or company, he and his goons will Troll it.
Without them here you could have a sensible debate and present your case but it turns to delinquency when they are around and before you know it your thread is a joke.

If you are passionate about this you could try again with a self-moderated thread and monitor and delete Troll posts. It will work eventually.
Personally I don't see why you need to raise BTC - this to me seems to be a FIAT business. Sure there could be a community here willing to back a music festival but you need a fairly self-modded thread to build trust and have a discussion.

People on here are grown adults and despite what the Trolls claim to be acting for (to warn people off scams) the guys on here are old enough to make their own decisions after having and reading the debate. Ofcourse the Trolls are not here to protect anyone apart from themselves and their failing MPEx. With a CEO about to be arrested and extradited who could blame users of MPEx from jumping ship.

great idea, thanks!
i'll get on that soon
i have had a bit of constructive input from a few sr members via private message, ill implement all of it in my second approach and self mod to delete these mindless ignorant posts

thanks!
legendary
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April 23, 2014, 12:55:10 AM
#38
Sorry OP, I didn't realize you were serious.  Let me put you in touch with another captain of industry, a financial tycoon starting a bank.
Here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-international-bank-of-crypto-escrow-pre-order-shares-579138

I'm sure he's a capable financier, and both of you are unmatched entertainers.  Do't let the haters get you down!




Congratulations.  After reading probably hundreds of your posts, you finally made me laugh.

Sometimes it does take a while to find something that makes you laugh this one was cute Smiley
member
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April 22, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
#37
Sorry OP, I didn't realize you were serious.  Let me put you in touch with another captain of industry, a financial tycoon starting a bank.
Here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-international-bank-of-crypto-escrow-pre-order-shares-579138

I'm sure he's a capable financier, and both of you are unmatched entertainers.  Do't let the haters get you down!




Congratulations.  After reading probably hundreds of your posts, you finally made me laugh.
sr. member
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April 22, 2014, 09:19:43 AM
#36
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The main Troll sponsor and poster is Mirceau Popescu - he runs a bitcoin exchange called MPEx.
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I ask because [NeoBee] Danny could have been a plant from the British Intelligence community or banking industry who was tasked with destroying the public perception of Bitcoin as a safe or reliable place for their savings.
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No paranoid delusions here. Nope Cheesy
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