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fonyo
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
#12762
Quote from: replicator on December 05, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
It's just my opinion, but I am 100% there is no such thing as ASIC proof. If there is real value to it, an asic will be created. That's just how it works.

I guess that's why, after investing in KnC's Titan miner you are now hoping to recover your money via VTC and other Scrypt-N coins after it is no longer feasible to do so with Litecoin?


+1 ASICs are nothing but trouble for all. Get into Bitcoin mining if you want madness (and you don't like sleeping).

Quote from: silencesilence on December 05, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
Expect the coming days many cheap coins, before vert update

- people with ASIC will always sell for BTC and then for $$$$
they have to pay expensive ASIC

they don't believe in any coin, only interest them money right now

+1 Exactly.

Quote from: replicator on December 05, 2014, 04:56:33 PM
Ironically, each Titan coming online and mining VTC brings about the fork even faster. I think I like how this works Smiley

Not really. The difficulty will retarget it, I suppose.
jamesl22
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 05:44:12 PM
#12761
Quote from: kenshirothefist on December 05, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
I just noticed that RC1 of sgminer-Lyra2RE has been released: https://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE/releases/tag/5.0.0-Lyra2RE-RC1

Are there already some test pools / testnets to test the new sgminer-Lyra2RE on Lyra2RE stratum mining?

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2oeofw/official_the_big_miner_settings_thread/

FYI
kenshirothefist
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
#12760
I just noticed that RC1 of sgminer-Lyra2RE has been released: https://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE/releases/tag/5.0.0-Lyra2RE-RC1

Are there already some test pools / testnets to test the new sgminer-Lyra2RE on Lyra2RE stratum mining?
silencesilence
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Activity: 1120
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
#12759
Expect the coming days many cheap coins, before vert update

- people with ASIC will always sell for BTC and then for $$$$
they have to pay expensive ASIC

they don't believe in any coin, only interest them money right now
replicator
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:56:33 PM
#12758
Ironically, each Titan coming online and mining VTC brings about the fork even faster. I think I like how this works Smiley
jk_14
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
#12757
Quote from: MisO69 on December 05, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: jk_14 on December 05, 2014, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.



1. ASIC is cryptoworld pathology

2. Let's see how in the end the network "security" of ASIC based coins will look like:




Nakamoto's nightmare.

Bullshit, anyone can buy ASICS just like anyone can buy GPUs.




anyone can buy, but almost noone want to be a sucker, is that right? Cheesy


    “There’s still going to be $2 billion, at today’s price, mined in the next few years. That’s a lot of cash that’s up for grabs, and we’re going to do our best to take a decent chunk of it.”

KnCMiner has decided to stop selling to individual miners entirely. Instead, KnCMiner will continue building up its datacenters in cheap-electricity regions of the world

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/kncminer-ditches-customers-favor-mining-bitcoin-litecoin-themselves/


You are right: ASICs are the real bull shit
BBristow79
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
#12756
Quote from: replicator on December 05, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
It's just my opinion, but I am 100% there is no such thing as ASIC proof. If there is real value to it, an asic will be created. That's just how it works.

I guess that's why, after investing in KnC's Titan miner you are now hoping to recover your money via VTC and other Scrypt-N coins after it is no longer feasible to do so with Litecoin?



The good news is that we're ready for a fork. It's nice to be prepared. Hopefully the Dev's take their time and don't rush anything. A few days of dumps the market can handle. The price will dip and recover, that is unless those mining with ASICs believe the price will go up. What could be much worse is a bad fork.

Take a deep breath, relax, and stay on target. ASICs were bound to happen and we were prepared. As long as we have options to change our Algo we'll stay ahead of ASICs even if they catch up once in a while.
replicator
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
#12755
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
It's just my opinion, but I am 100% there is no such thing as ASIC proof. If there is real value to it, an asic will be created. That's just how it works.

I guess that's why, after investing in KnC's Titan miner you are now hoping to recover your money via VTC and other Scrypt-N coins after it is no longer feasible to do so with Litecoin?

MisO69
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My mule don't like people laughing
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
#12754
Quote from: jk_14 on December 05, 2014, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.



1. ASIC is cryptoworld pathology

2. Let's see how in the end the network "security" of ASIC based coins will look like:




Nakamoto's nightmare.

Bullshit, anyone can buy ASICS just like anyone can buy GPUs.

BBristow79
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
#12753
Now is the time to start the marketing campaign as well as spreading the new word of mouth (the cheapest and most effective way of advertising)

Good things are coming and if we want VTC to succeed like we know it will we can't just be onlookers but rather we need to be part of branding, teaching and ultimate success of this fantastic coin.

Keep up the great work dev's. We'll do our best from our end while you work tirelessly on yours!
paradigmflux
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small fry
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
#12752
Quote from: kitano on December 05, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: kitano on December 05, 2014, 03:20:08 PM
The Antminer L1 and the KNC Titan can mine VTC after the hard fork to Lyra2RE?
no
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....
Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

TY.
After 15:00 UTC the VTC hashrate is quadrupled. Maybe BitmainTech is testing his miners. KNC released a Scrypt-N beta software.
Interesting, yeah, difficulty shot up 5 x
replicator
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
#12751
Quote from: ?? on ??
Oh! When I see the difficulty was skyrocketed I thought it was already released. So why is diff. so high then?

It's probably so high because KnC's Titan finally can mine Scrypt-N (in a beta release), hashing at about 100 MH/s
k0vic
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
#12750
Quote from: venlo on December 05, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.

dude, are you selling asics or something? (looked up posthistory of user who is only posting asic related on all threads atm)

Are you paid in workhours or based on number of posts?

It's just my opinion, but I am 100% there is no such thing as ASIC proof. If there is real value to it, an asic will be created. That's just how it works.
jamesl22
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
#12749
Quote from: ?? on ??
So where can I find a new miner software (for windows) which supports lyra2re?

It's not released yet. I'm preparing RC1 as we speak... Cheesy
venlo
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
#12748
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.

dude, are you selling asics or something? (looked up posthistory of user who is only posting asic related on all threads atm)

Are you paid in workhours or based on number of posts?
jk_14
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Activity: 1292
Merit: 1000
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 04:01:54 PM
#12747
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.



1. ASIC is cryptoworld pathology

2. Let's see how in the end the network "security" of ASIC based coins will look like:




Nakamoto's nightmare.
volyova
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Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 03:59:49 PM
#12746
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.
Well..um, Bushido obviously doesn't agree. Anything can be achieved as this is a new frontier.
k0vic
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Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
#12745
Quote from: odaxis on December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?

Your fighting a losing battle by continuing to change your algo over and over once an asic is able to mine. A successful coin will never be mined by GPU and CPU only because there is value to the coin. If there is value to something, someone will create a better way to mine it which in the end helps create network security.

This is the basis of crytpo and any coin fighting it will lose eventually.
odaxis
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Activity: 35
Merit: 0
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
#12744
Quote from: k0vic on December 05, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Not yet....


Asics are unavoidable and should be embraced as a natural evolution of a coin. ... sad.

What makes you think so?
jamesl22
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Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer
December 05, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
#12743
Version 0.9.0.1 released! Fixes testnet, fixes version number, confirmed working.

EVERYONE MUST UPDATE THEIR WALLETS NOW!

Wallet downloads:

PlatformLink
Linux Daemon 32-bithttps://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoind-v0.9.0.1-i386.zip
Linux Daemon 64-bithttps://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoind-v0.9.0.1-amd64.zip
Linux-Qt (GUI) 32-bit (Requires libQt4)https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoin-qt-v0.9.0.1-i386.zip
Linux-Qt (GUI) 64-bit (Requires libQt4)https://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoin-qt-v0.9.0.1-amd64.zip
Windows Daemon 32-bithttps://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoind-v0.9.0.1-win-x86-no-upnp.zip
Windows Qt (GUI) 32-bithttps://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/releases/download/v0.9.0.1/vertcoin-qt-v0.9.0.1-win-x86-no-upnp.zip
Windows Daemon 64-bitComing soon
Windows QT (GUI) 64-bitComing soon
Mac OSXComing soon
Source Codehttps://github.com/vertcoin/vertcoin/archive/v0.9.0.0.zip

Miners: (Thanks to djm43 for his great work on this!)
PlatformLink
sgminer (AMD) Windowshttps://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/5.0.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/sgminer-v5-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32.zip
sgminer (AMD) LinuxComing soon
sgminer (AMD) Source Codehttps://github.com/metalicjames/sgminer-Lyra2RE
ccminer (nVidia) Windowshttps://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/v1.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/ccminer-Lyra2RE-RC1-WIN32.zip
ccminer (nVidia) Linuxhttps://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE/releases/download/v1.0-Lyra2RE-RC1/ccminer-Lyra2RE-RC1-amd64-linux.zip
ccminer (nVidia) Source Codehttps://github.com/metalicjames/ccminer-Lyra2RE

Other software:
SoftwareLink
Python Module for Lyra2RE (for use in external projects)https://github.com/metalicjames/lyra2re-hash-python
Stratum-mining-Lyra2RE (Fork of stratum-mining for MPOS etc USE ONLY AFTER FORK BLOCK!)https://github.com/metalicjames/stratum-mining-Lyra2RE
node-stratum-poolhttps://github.com/sammy007/node-stratum-pool/tree/lyra2re
node-multi-hashinghttps://github.com/sammy007/node-multi-hashing/tree/lyra2re
P2PoolComing soon

You guys can help by contacting your pool operator/any Vertcoin related services you use and asking them to update to the latest wallet.
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