Topic: [VIDEO] Me melting Silver and casting an ingot (Read 6681 times)

Better call Saul!

Serious. PM incoming

lol I hope you're serious. PM me.

I absolutely love this thread and am considering buying an ingot off him purely as a souvenir of his entertainment value especially with the videos. I was laughing out loud so hard it pissed off my gf while she was sleeping which made this whole experience even more enjoyable. 

Interested in a 1oz 925 shipped. Thanks!

in theory tho he has still giving more silver then the guy bought so he did remedy it i know in the real world there are store that do not accept return point blank. even if you buy something walk out to our car try to use it and its broke still you cant return it. the seller even tho he mis marked bars he still provided enough silver plus some to account for any mistakes so the buyer is still making out in this situation isnt taking care of the customer what matters just because the customer didnt get exactly what he wanted he was more then compensated for any mistakes.

example of this i just got comcast at my new house started service on the 23 of nov. i had 3 problems right away
1st problem was they didnt send all the equipment nesscery for service
2nd was wrong internet speeds provide then what i was paying for
3rd was no phone

problems 2 and 3 took about 3 weeks and 2 days to fix
and do you know what i got for all my troubles a 5 dollar credit thats it for not having half my service and the other half being fucked up i got 5 dollars thats it.

so i dont see why you flaming this seller who was and is more then happy to make right but the seller is sticking to his guns on no returns. also after 1 month i wouldn't accept a return either

It does matter, because thats what you claimed. So what does one do with the bars that doesn't reach .925 as no one would buy those even if properly marked? So now the customer has to pay to correct an improper marking. So awesome. Definitely a swell business model.

Who are you? Some Silver God? I'm keeping that video on YouTube for its instructional value-if one person can learn one thing from that video, its worth leaving it up. There are some people I have established a relationship with on here, and they buy my silver. But I have realized that largly this is NOT the market for homemade ingots. I'll continue to offer silver for sale, but not in the form of hand-poured ingots on this board. A combination of trolls (Mr. Jizz in his pants), vengeful customers, and people who know nothing about melting silver is a bad combination. Do you really think I don't have the "acid" you're talking about? And what do you mean "don't stamp it, put a DEEP gouge in it"-uhh thats what stamping is. You want to help me with the next one I make, Hercules?
For one thing, I enjoy the process of melting down silver and making ingots. And you know what's even better? I make money doing it! Who are you and how the hell would you know what kind of money I'm making? No lie, I have sold a 1oz 925 ingot for $40.
Thanks A TON for all of your incredible insight. Oh, and PM me your number so I can call you next time I need to stamp an ingot.

God, thank you so much.
If you people are arguing on the basis of "its not about the amount of silver, it is about the purity of the silver marked on the bar" then you can go to the hardware store and stamp a 2 over the 9 and add a 5.
Because thats how I did it-with at home equipment. The stamp isn't even deep. If you are so concerned, sand off the extra 9. In addition to everything else I offered, I told the customer that I would be happy to melt all of the ingots and ensure purity of .925 and create a larger, single ingot for him-with the appropriate marks.
If you really think the stamping of the bar means anything you're wrong. This was a "made at home" ingot. Someone could melt just coins and put a .999 on the bar and you would never know.
Long story short: I'm not a mint, so it doesn't matter.

As I listen to you hopefully beat this bar in another tab of my browser...

Do yourself a favor.  Get these videos off of the internet as soon as humanly possible.  If you haven't realized yet, reputation is everything in this community.  This isn't doing you any favors if you haven't already figured it out.

Your best bet at this point is going to be selling to people on Ebay who are clueless.  Keep to calling them 92.5 and get yourself some freaking testing acids.  Just because its stamped or hallmarked doesn't mean its really 925.  STOP relying on that.  Put a DEEP gouge in it.  A drop of acid, that will cost you about $5 for a bottle of it, and then you KNOW.

If you feel the need to video your ingot then keep it simple.  Use your sander to put a dent in all the scrap first, then video each of the drops you put on the stuff.  All the stuff going in the crucible... etc.  Stop the commentary, its not helping.

All of this sanding, hammering, etc.  Seriously dude.  So much time, your not making money.  You could buy and sell and not touch the stuff and make more money!!!

I'm not trying to hurt ya dude - Its great you wanna have a little thing going, but think about this stuff from how it looks from our end.  If you have a tough time with evaluating that, ask a friend or family member!!!

I enjoy reading JohnnieWalker's threads...makes for entertainment.

I never said it was his intention to scam. However, I do think he should have made it right when things didn't turn out well. Plus, you haven't obviously tried to sell a bar in this situation. It is much harder than you would think. I have bought duds before and you usually have to just count it as a loss.

ok i agree on the miss mark shit but come on the guy has more sliver in his possession then what he orginal paid for. silver is silver there is always a shop that will buy it even if he get it for like .88 scale its not as valuable but ppl still buy it. maybe the seller should just buy it back of course ship;ping back to the seller would be on the buyer. and then the seller could just remelt but still he did get silver value wise more then what he paid for.

i dont think the seller tried to jew him in any way but thats what you ppl are making it out to be yes they werent .99 it was his first time he explained that in his post when selling the buyer still agreed to buy them and the seller went above and beyond to make sure the seller got the value of silver he was paying for even if it wasnt in .99 clarity.

Its not the silver content. Below .925 bars marked as .99 are practically unsellable. That's the point. He would have to melt it himself to get something worth selling. Proper remedies include: refund, actually getting a full amount of silver that is in sellable condition, or some other agreeable condition.

Saying I will send .99 silver and then sent less than .925 marked as .99 that noone will ever want to buy and then "making it up" by throwing in one or two pieces of junk silver doesn't really make up for the fact that the original product wasn't worth what was paid for it. No one buys wrongly marked bars. And very few people buy anything less than sterling that isn't government or reputable private mint anyway. You are missing the point that the assaying shop then refused purchase AT ALL because the bars were marked wrong and a poorly selling purity.

Nothing was made up. This was a bad deal with an obviously inexperienced melter. You make it right by going down now, finding where some mistakes were, refining the process and then doing better in the future. You don't throw a silver quarter at a couple hundred dollar dud deal and make it go away.

look how stupid are you ppl. I understand he advertised some5thing as .99 and it didnt turn out to be .99 but he sent an extra 50 cent peice which would cover any discrepency he also offered up another quarter. i mean come on he mad a mistake and he fully went above and beond by providing way more silver then what the customer payed for. the customer is just bitching bc he cant make mad money off the ignos bc there home made its was his choice to buy such a good /wsome deal.



i could see if the seller was trying to cheat the guy and say you got what you got but he didnt he gave more then enought to cover any problems that might of occured.

So does this mean you are going to refund people who you sold to having advertised at .99 silver? Does this mean you have improved your process as before you were, on average, under .925 purity?

PWNT

I apologize. I think I know which one you mean. Its not a common practice but it seemed relevant so I threw it in. I'll refrain in the future.

There are many refineing forums out there look around. dealing with the acids isnt really that hard or expensive half of them you could probably get from that pussy ass store walmart to lol.

Well, you could assay each of your bars (at least the larger ones) at a nearby pawn shop/jewellery shop which provides a simple printout before selling em. That'll  keep problems like this out.

PS: I've deleted your reply at someone else's selling thread advertising your own products. Please do not do so at the future as it's considered OT and a bad form of sales disruption.

I'd like to see the two skeptics there produce anything silver. And the only way to get the alloy out of 925 silver definitively is w/the use of acids. There's copper, zinc and a couple others in there. Maybe one day if I continue to pursue this I'll make .99 rounds. But now, with the equipment I have (purchased from Home Depot for $50 and about $10 worth of stuff from the Grocery store-thats right everyone, I'm not the US Mint), I'm going to stick to 925 bars. Its pretty easy-just buy the scrap and some shot, throw em in the crucible and find a suitable mold-which is also not easy. I don't have the money to buy big professional graphite or cast iron molds. I think that what I produce considering the resources I have is pretty good. And so do people who have bought from me on here and elsewhere (with one exception I don't care to mention).