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September 25, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
#47
^I'm willing to do more than that.  I go under a surgeon's knife, without the urge to take it from him so I could do it myself.
And that guy could kill me Sad
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September 25, 2014, 05:32:39 PM
#46
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with bitcoin for the first time in 550 years YOU are the bank, each and every one of us is actually a walking bank.
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Not everyone dreams of being his own bank.  I, for instance, don't.  No more than I dream about being my own plumber, or butcher.


if you're willing to delegate the safekeeping of the fruits of your hard labor to someone else don't be surprised when he runs off with it.
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September 25, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
#45
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with bitcoin for the first time in 550 years YOU are the bank, each and every one of us is actually a walking bank.
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Not everyone dreams of being his own bank.  I, for instance, don't.  No more than I dream about being my own plumber, or butcher.

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You are soon flying back after a two week business trip out the country. Whilst walking through the airport departure lounge your phone PA agent app offers to arrange a taxi to pick you up at the other end and drive you home. You tap yes and via your inbuilt hardware smart wallet credit card the agent instantly books a cab and pays with bitcoin credit card. You order a beer and pay with bitcoin credit card using the contactless payment system from your phone. Your phone offers to get the cleaner in to tidy up the house before you arrive home but you decide against it as the place wasn't too messy when you left. It is the end of the month and whilst you wait your phone bill and electricity bills appear on the screen. Bugger you think and tap pay as they are paid instantly with a few precious satoshis debited from your wallet "why am I seeing this?  These are paid automatically through my credit card!" ... etc., etc.

FTFY.  If you trust apps with your coin, trust them with your CC.  No need for Bitcoin Smiley

Credit Card.  Your tomorrow is here, today!

Edit:  And I'm not even going to get into you ordering a beer and waiting for confirms, missing your taxi in the process, and coming home to find others living in it.  It's been sold because I wrote your apps, which were open-source, but you didn't audit the code.  There is no CC company to make it all better--BTC transactions are irreversible, and you're your own bank.
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 05:25:15 PM
#44
a system that disrupts 500 years of banking is not going to be perfect 5 years after its been invented

Nice quote and so true.

Why does everyone want to become millionaire over night  Roll Eyes

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September 25, 2014, 05:22:25 PM
#43
All the replies about what bitcoin "can do" and why it's destined to change the world... all these things, like ordering a taxi or buying pizza online... you can already do with this neat little invention called a credit card. They've actually been around for over 40 years...

Telling people here that bitcoin has maxed out is like walking into a heaven's gate meeting and telling them that there is no mythical space ship in the sky waiting to beam them to heaven. Members of this forum have been holding, and telling each other for the better part of a year that bitcoin is destined to change the world... just because it's so awesome and the sheep don't recognize it yet. Bitcoins are magical beans, you're all just holding and hoping to get rich. But the public is now aware of bitcoin and they're not interested. They don't care that it's centralized. People like centralization.

Why do you think libertarians only get 1 or 2% of the vote? People want a big government to look out for them, and even if they have an independent streak in them, they still don't want a digital currency, which can be potentially lost or stolen from them unless they're some kind of computer security expert. Not to mentioned the 60% decline in value in less than one year. If you think people will ever want bitcoin for anything other than speculating or gambling, then you must be smoking something.

your bank can close your credit card and freeze your account and there's nothing you can do about that.
bitcoin allows you to become your own bank, you can even loan funds to other people without anyone being able to stop you, no credit card can do that.

a system that disrupts 500 years of banking is not going to be perfect 5 years after its been invented, bitcoin's volatility will decline once the volume on exchanges becomes more substantial, today you only need a few million USD to move the price significantly.

people can want big government all they want, governments rise and fall like the winter wheat, none last forever.
even the mighty roman empire collapsed, but hey, i'm sure its different this time...
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 05:15:20 PM
#42
All the replies about what bitcoin "can do" and why it's destined to change the world... all these things, like ordering a taxi or buying pizza online... you can already do with this neat little invention called a credit card. They've actually been around for over 40 years...

Telling people here that bitcoin has maxed out is like walking into a heaven's gate meeting and telling them that there is no mythical space ship in the sky waiting to beam them to heaven. Members of this forum have been holding, and telling each other for the better part of a year that bitcoin is destined to change the world... just because it's so awesome and the sheep don't recognize it yet. Bitcoins are magical beans, you're all just holding and hoping to get rich. But the public is now aware of bitcoin and they're not interested. They don't care that it's centralized. People like centralization.

Why do you think libertarians only get 1 or 2% of the vote? People want a big government to look out for them, and even if they have an independent streak in them, they still don't want a digital currency, which can be potentially lost or stolen from them unless they're some kind of computer security expert. Not to mentioned the 60% decline in value in less than one year. If you think people will ever want bitcoin for anything other than speculating or gambling, then you must be smoking something.

Why would people want to use and save the best form of money ever invented? The same reason you do. The irony isnt lost on me the loudest detractors of bitcoin on the forum are those who secretly seek it the most!
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September 25, 2014, 04:44:06 PM
#41
All the replies about what bitcoin "can do" and why it's destined to change the world... all these things, like ordering a taxi or buying pizza online... you can already do with this neat little invention called a credit card. They've actually been around for over 40 years...

Telling people here that bitcoin has maxed out is like walking into a heaven's gate meeting and telling them that there is no mythical space ship in the sky waiting to beam them to heaven. Members of this forum have been holding, and telling each other for the better part of a year that bitcoin is destined to change the world... just because it's so awesome and the sheep don't recognize it yet. Bitcoins are magical beans, you're all just holding and hoping to get rich. But the public is now aware of bitcoin and they're not interested. They don't care that it's centralized. People like centralization.

Why do you think libertarians only get 1 or 2% of the vote? People want a big government to look out for them, and even if they have an independent streak in them, they still don't want a digital currency, which can be potentially lost or stolen from them unless they're some kind of computer security expert. Not to mentioned the 60% decline in value in less than one year. If you think people will ever want bitcoin for anything other than speculating or gambling, then you must be smoking something.
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September 25, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
#40
people are currently living in a pipe dream that paper money can work, despite the fact it never did, that's a 100% failure rate.
the world is going to have a new monetary system in this decade as the printed money malinvestments pile up to unsustainable levels.

there are only two viable options, either go back to precious metals or use bitcoin.
there is no sense using gold where you have to trust someone to hold it for you.

with bitcoin for the first time in 550 years YOU are the bank, each and every one of us is actually a walking bank.

people look at bitcoin as if its a clone of paypal without realizing the historic paradigm change that it causes in the banking industry.
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 04:03:47 PM
#39
if you google "21$ in bitcoin" immediately there is a exchange rate.  Just like any other currency or formula you can google.   Guess what?  The world knows about bitcoin; its capabilities has been shown.  Guess what?  The world is NOT impressed by bitcoin, and uninterested.  Bitcoin is disliked, and is not useful to 95% of the population.

Theorem:
  • Google knows about Bitcoin.
  • Everyone knows about Google.
  • Therefore, everyone knows about Bitcoin.
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September 25, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
#38
I was around in 2011, and we dreamed of this day, where the world has been exposed to bitcoin.  As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for", there really isn't that much going on for bitcoin, but furthermore, the future of bitcoin.

3 years is really not to much. If you dream and imagine back then exactly as it is now, i doubt you would wrote article like this, since you would have some vision what will be in 3 years from now.
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September 25, 2014, 03:48:01 PM
#37

Ahh ..so you measure success vs. failure in terms of USD. So you believe bitcoin's sole use is as a speculative vehicle by which more USD can be obtained?

And way down from what? December '13? March '14? if you're comparing to those periods of time, you're not worth arguing with.
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
#36
if you google "21$ in bitcoin" immediately there is a exchange rate.  Just like any other currency or formula you can google.   Guess what?  The world knows about bitcoin; its capabilities has been shown.  Guess what?  The world is NOT impressed by bitcoin, and uninterested.  Bitcoin is disliked, and is not useful to 95% of the population.

I was around in 2011, and we dreamed of this day, where the world has been exposed to bitcoin.  As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for", there really isn't that much going on for bitcoin, but furthermore, the future of bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the Segway of money.  It works, it's moderately useful, and it's not going to change the world.

I do think decentralization and the blockchain will change the world, but these guys will be riding their segway's, while listening to napster, while surfing AOL, while counting their bitcoins and telling friends about it on myspace.
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September 25, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
#35
Bitcoin is the Segway of money.  It works, it's moderately useful, and it's not going to change the world.

But you were full certain back in 2011 that Bitcoin would be dead in a matter of weeks and the price would actually go into negative territory. Have your predictions got any better since then or are you still talking nonsense  Cheesy
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#Free market
September 25, 2014, 03:18:10 PM
#33
OP, go buy an ounce of gold.


This sentence is fantastic ! OP If you don't trust bitcoin go away  Roll Eyes .
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September 25, 2014, 03:15:35 PM
#32
I bet the people at home depot wished they had been able to pay with bitcoin.
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 01:32:34 PM
#31
if you google "21$ in bitcoin" immediately there is a exchange rate.  Just like any other currency or formula you can google.   Guess what?  The world knows about bitcoin; its capabilities has been shown.  Guess what?  The world is NOT impressed by bitcoin, and uninterested.  Bitcoin is disliked, and is not useful to 95% of the population.

I was around in 2011, and we dreamed of this day, where the world has been exposed to bitcoin.  As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for", there really isn't that much going on for bitcoin, but furthermore, the future of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is not really decentralized, anonymous, or easy to use.  Any entity that tries to improve bitcoin is not in it to really improve bitcoin, but to monopolize some kind of service that is good for bitcoin in the short run but destroys it in the long run.  Coinbase, mtgox, etc etc...

Bitcoin is centralized in the fact that it is only as good as the developers, and the developers are total stone degenerates.  Bitcoin is doomed to be something that just "didn't work" when we look back at in hindsight.  Just like another penny stock that was selling for hundreds of dollars a share during the .com bubble.  5 years from now (if this forum still exists), someone will bump this thread and facepalm at their ignorance.

let's go back to 1980ish

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if you read the times about "the internet" immediately you will find it on the front page.  Guess what?  The world knows about the internet; its capabilities has been shown.  Guess what?  The world is NOT impressed by the internet, and uninterested.  the internet is disliked, and is not useful to 95% of the population.

I was around in 1970, and we dreamed of this day, where the world has been exposed to the internet.  As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for", there really isn't that much going on for the internet, but furthermore, the future of the internet.

The internet is not really neccesary, anonymous, or easy to use.  Any entity that tries to improve the internet is not in it to really improve the internet, but to monopolize some kind of service that is good for the internet in the short run but destroys it in the long run.  (Some random dotcom companies) etc etc...

(some random flaws about the internet)
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September 25, 2014, 01:06:56 PM
#30
Nah. Take a look at estimated USD transaction volume., which is adjusted for change-making and other transactions that don't represent ownership transfers. Not much change since April, and way down from the China peak last December. (There's also a huge peak around the time Mt. Gox went down.)

This is precisely what I was looking at. It isn't a fair comparison to take the peak of December, during speculative fueled frenzies and say we are down from there. I can do that on any chart for any market to create a skewed perspective. Between the months of January and March, we were still dropping to find our real bottom. Bitcoin was still discovering it's "actual" price (by actual, I mean absent short-sighted speculation). Gox implodes, there's another rush and we find a new bottom. Only short term speculators want explosive, impossible to sustain appreciation. Since May now, we've had slow, but steady growth.

Look at 30 day, 60, 180, 1 year ...each and every one is UP. Contrary to sublime's comment that I was replying to, no ..it simply is not falling, and that was my point.
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
#29
legendary
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September 25, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
#28
if you google "21$ in bitcoin" immediately there is a exchange rate.  Just like any other currency or formula you can google.   Guess what?  The world knows about bitcoin; its capabilities has been shown.  Guess what?  The world is NOT impressed by bitcoin, and uninterested.  Bitcoin is disliked, and is not useful to 95% of the population.

I was around in 2011, and we dreamed of this day, where the world has been exposed to bitcoin.  As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for", there really isn't that much going on for bitcoin, but furthermore, the future of bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the Segway of money.  It works, it's moderately useful, and it's not going to change the world.

Looking through your posts from 2011 it seems you were bearish then. You are bearish now. If you havent become fairly comfortable off bitcoin since then I can only assume you are one bitter man indeed!
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