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Topic: Virginia Governor Declares states of emergency because of GUNS RIGHTS RALLY (Read 364 times)

legendary
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I really need to get a gun. Why? 'Cause the Virginians are buying them all up! Grin


Virginians respond to gun control proposals by purchasing almost 74,000 firearms in December



Democrats within Richmond have been adamant in bringing forth legislation that can be contorted to strip citizens of their second amendment rights. As a result, citizens of the state thought it a good idea to purchase their weapons while they still could.

According to the Associated Press, December of 2019 saw an increase of 47% over the number of firearm sales when compared to December of 2018.

The tallied number of guns sold totaled out to 73,849. The outlet reported that the increase in sales was likely "due to growing fears of increased firearms restrictions backed by Democrats who control the state government."

In the past 30 years, there was only one month that toppled the sales from this past December, and that would be December of 2012.


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sr. member
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Read about how it turned out today. What's funny was that cuck of a governor was supposedly not even in Virginia during the rally. (Tried to look this up to confirm but all articles about him was from a week ago). Who knows, maybe he truly was afraid that there'd be violence - and that his head would be on a pike.

~No wonder Northam stripped voting ID requirements.~

This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard today! How do they even... Like you just show up your face there and they don't even confirm if you live in Virginia? That's just retarded! (No offense to literal retards)
legendary
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ALSO: If it doesn't change the thoughts of the legislature and the Governor, then Republicans have to ride this wave of support into the next election. They have to put out ads saying this is what happens when you let dems control the legislature. It's a winning narrative, you just have to stick with it.
I am not sure what the polling is on gun rights related issues is in Virginia. I am honestly kinda surprised that Democrats did so well after opposing impeachment of their governor after he was caught wearing black-face. I have no reason to follow VA politics, but I understand the DNC and various special interest groups put an outsized amount of money into the last election in Virginia.


There is an interesting contrast to what happened in Charlottesville in 2017. I understand there was not many anti-gun rights protestors at today's rallies, but in Charlottesville, there were many far left wing, anti-free speech protestors who were assaulting the free-speech protestors, and the police were not doing anything about it, almost in an effort to get things to escalate (which they did).

They got the votes via replacement immigration. No wonder Northam stripped voting ID requirements. Regarding Charlottesville, the ones participating in the official event were surrounded and kettled and forced into the counter protestor group to exit. Another couple factoids barely ever covered, the guy driving the charger that supposedly hit that woman had his vehicle attacked before he hit the gas. There is video of the vehicle being hit with a bat before he accelerates. This doesn't free him of responsibility of course, but it is a far different narrative some one being attacked then freaking out vs the story that was pushed. Also the woman who died died of a HEART ATTACK, not physical trauma, and was an overweight smoker.
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Well, the event was over and nothing really happened. There were reports of Antifa trying to cause some scene but they were quickly dealt with by people before it escalated. If only those were selfless enough to sacrifice themselves and cause trouble on a crowd of armed people but they aren't. They quickly folded and left.   Wink

It would have like running naked through a field of cacti.

It is difficult to take away someone's rights in one 'swoop', it is far easier to take away rights incrementally and over time.

Yes, boil the frog slowly so it don't get alarmed and jump out the pot.

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ALSO: If it doesn't change the thoughts of the legislature and the Governor, then Republicans have to ride this wave of support into the next election. They have to put out ads saying this is what happens when you let dems control the legislature. It's a winning narrative, you just have to stick with it.
I am not sure what the polling is on gun rights related issues is in Virginia. I am honestly kinda surprised that Democrats did so well after opposing impeachment of their governor after he was caught wearing black-face. I have no reason to follow VA politics, but I understand the DNC and various special interest groups put an outsized amount of money into the last election in Virginia.


There is an interesting contrast to what happened in Charlottesville in 2017. I understand there was not many anti-gun rights protestors at today's rallies, but in Charlottesville, there were many far left wing, anti-free speech protestors who were assaulting the free-speech protestors, and the police were not doing anything about it, almost in an effort to get things to escalate (which they did).
legendary
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Predictions:

- nothing notable or interesting will happen at the gun nut festival
- there will not be a Civil War in the next several decades or perhaps century
- life will not noticeably change after more gun laws are implemented across the country

If nothing notable is likely to happen, what is the state of emergency for?
It is difficult to take away someone's rights in one 'swoop', it is far easier to take away rights incrementally and over time.


It doesn't appear that there were any violent incidents, nor notable arrests at the rallies today. There is a satirical article by the babylon bee saying that reporters held a moment of silence because there wasn't any violence at the capital in Richmond, VA today. 

Good to hear, this could've gotten pretty bad pretty quickly if one disgruntled member of the 2nd A group got angry and started to take things out on people. Which wouldn't be good for either side. It also would've sucked if there was some undercover ANTIFA trying to make the 2nd A people look bad.

But this is exactly what a protest should be, and this should make some of the members of the Virgina legislature (and Governor) think twice about the laws that they're going to be changing.

ALSO: If it doesn't change the thoughts of the legislature and the Governor, then Republicans have to ride this wave of support into the next election. They have to put out ads saying this is what happens when you let dems control the legislature. It's a winning narrative, you just have to stick with it.
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Predictions:

- nothing notable or interesting will happen at the gun nut festival
- there will not be a Civil War in the next several decades or perhaps century
- life will not noticeably change after more gun laws are implemented across the country

If nothing notable is likely to happen, what is the state of emergency for?
It is difficult to take away someone's rights in one 'swoop', it is far easier to take away rights incrementally and over time.


It doesn't appear that there were any violent incidents, nor notable arrests at the rallies today. There is a satirical article by the babylon bee saying that reporters held a moment of silence because there wasn't any violence at the capital in Richmond, VA today. 
legendary
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Live Now: Alex Jones Storms Virginia In Battle Tank to Support 2nd Amendment



Infowars' Alex Jones and crew are live in Richmond, Virginia to stand up for the Second Amendment and to join fellow patriots in sending a message to the state's Democrat politicians.

Stay tuned for updates on this historic march and remember, Infowars is the most banned broadcast in the world, so share this link!

Loads of videos at the site.


See, also:

Virginia Governor Northam's Intent To Bring In the UN Blocked by Trump - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/275269-2020-01-20-virginia-governor-northams-intent-to-bring-in-the-un-blocked.htm

FAA Bans Drones Near Virginia Capitol Ahead of Gun Rights Rally - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/275276-2020-01-20-faa-bans-drones-near-virginia-capitol-ahead-of-gun-rights.htm

Virginia Gun Confiscation Bill Pulled as Huge Pro-Gun Crowd Shows Up at Legislature To Protest - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/275290-2020-01-20-virginia-gun-confiscation-bill-pulled-as-huge-pro-gun-crowd.htm



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legendary
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It's sad to see cities have to secede in order to maintain their god given rights guaranteed by their constitution.
legendary
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Predictions:

- nothing notable or interesting will happen at the gun nut festival
- there will not be a Civil War in the next several decades or perhaps century
- life will not noticeably change after more gun laws are implemented across the country

If nothing notable is likely to happen, what is the state of emergency for?
legendary
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The impeachment trial begins on the 21st. This is not a coincidence. This is a very obvious set up for a false flag event.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/were-ready-fight-1000s-expected-massive-gun-rights-rally-virginia-capitol
legendary
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Notice that the gov is using legal channels. Why don't the people do this by recalling the gov? Or at least by suing or impeaching him for attempting to break the 2nd Amendment? And all their "Congress" people as well?

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legendary
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I don't live in the US but since this is a right guaranteed by the Constitution, isn't the governor doing something illegal? Usually with declarations of "state of emergency" comes emergency powers that might allow enforcers to break up rallies, right? From what I see these rallyists aren't doing anything illegal.

Mental illness checks are fine, but who's going to define what is and what isn't a mental illness to be able to deny me my constitutional right.

The thing is they define what an illness is based on whatever they like. When people tell you so-and-so makes someone "unfit" just point out that homosexuals used to be sent to insane asylums.
State of emergenices (declared by the Governor) most likely allow him to ban firearms from state grounds.
But in regards to gun controls, the legislature can pass whatever they want and then lawsuits would most likely happen to see if the law is constitutional or not. Though the SC leans towards certain parts of gun control being legal.

"State grounds" being public places, right? So that could mean that the protesters would have to leave their guns at home. It looks like they wouldn't be harassed anyway. I saw an article saying an Antifa group have posted that they do not plan to hold a counter-protest (and even made fun of the governor a bit). Something about this Antifa group also wanting to observe their gun rights.

Let's just hope it don't get violent tomorrow.
legendary
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Here we go again. Dems are perpetuation the sale of guns. And it wouldn't be so bad if they were doing it legally and lawfully, but we can see that they are going against the spirit of the 2nd Amendment. Do they all hold stock in the gun companies?


Virginia Gun Sales Soar As Dems Consider Draconian "Assault Weapons" Ban



Unsurprisingly, many Virginians feel strongly about preserving their second amendment rights, and the state has traditionally enforced a more permissive stance toward firearm ownership. But now, lawmakers are tossing around ideas like an "assault weapons ban" - language that has been criticized as vague and even nonsensical. Several moderate Democrats have even expressed reservations about supporting a sweeping gun-control bill if it includes the ban.

"A lot of people don't really understand assault weapons and how complicated the issue really is," said Democratic Sen. John Edwards. "It's going to be very difficult to figure out a way to do it. But we're studying it, that's all I can say."

And yet, lawmakers are pressing ahead, prompting a vicious backlash that has even prompted Gov. Northam to declare a state of Emergency because armed militia groups planned to storm the capitol.


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sr. member
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Due to the fact that Virginia Democrats have taken over both chambers of the states legislature, they've planned a LARGE amount of gun control bills that are going to be coming up the pipeline. It seems as if the Dems are unified in passing these, and the Democratic Governor Northram (yes, the guy who got caught with blackface, was told to resign and then didn't) has signaled that he's supporting these measures.

I'm going to expect that a good majority of you guys have heard / seen all the memes on the topic already, saying things like "GUN OWNERS WE'RE GOING TO VIRGINA" or that they're going to take the gun from their cold dead hands. Things along those lines. To summarize it, gun owners in Virgina (and outside of Virgina) are pretty pissed and they're holding a protest/rally to show their anger and try to convince lawmakers to change their potential votes.

The group that's hosting the event, the Virgina Citizens Defense League, has stated that the people participating in the rally are going to be armed though it is going to be a peaceful protest. Virginia Governor has countered in saying that they've received credible reports from LE saying that people are going to be violent and try to cause harm.

Who knows if he's being truthful or if he's just trying to shut down a group of people that he wants to stop. Guess we'll see in the coming days. (Monday is the date of the rally btw)

Source: https://www.npr.org/2020/01/15/796666321/virginia-governor-declares-state-of-emergency-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally (didn't quote or anything, just want people to be able to read about it here, can always look this up and find a different source if ya think NPR isn't good enough)

if the citizens aren't armed the criminals will be, in germany you can observe exactly that, refugees flooding in and knife stagging german welfare officials
legendary
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This should be fun... "WV Lawmakers Invite VA 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties to Secede And Join Their State."


West Virginia Invites 2nd-Amendment Sanctuary Counties...



West Virginia lawmakers introduced a resolution on Tuesday inviting Virginia's Second Amendment sanctuary counties to legally secede and "be admitted to the body politic of the State of West Virginia."

House Concurrent Resolution 8 reads:

Whereas, Article VI, Section 11 of The Constitution of the State of West Virginia explicitly permits additional territory to be admitted into, and become part of this state, with the consent of the Legislature and of a majority of the qualified voters of the state; and

Whereas, In a spirit of conciliation, the Legislature of West Virginia hereby extends an invitation to our fellow Virginians who wish to do so, to join us in our noble experiment of 156 years of separation from the government at Richmond; and, we extend an invitation to any constituent county or city of the Commonwealth of Virginia to be admitted to the body politic of the State of West Virginia, under the conditions set forth in our state Constitution, specifically, with the consent of a majority of the voters of such county or city voting upon such proposition; and we hereby covenant that their many grievances shall be addressed, and, we further covenant with them that their firearms rights shall be protected to the fullest extent possible under our Federal and State Constitution.

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WSLS reports that so far over 102 cities/counties in Virginia have approved some type of Second Amendment sanctuary resolution as of January 14.


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legendary
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If government people are acting illegally by limiting gun rights when the 2nd Amendment says that gun rights shall not be infringed, it is the duty of the people to sue them personally, as men and women. Such suits should come both from individuals and class action.

the word GUN. or fully automatic rifle are not in the 2nd amendment
the second amendment does not have the word sue or lawsuit in it either

people only have the right to


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https://www.mtrushmoretshirts.com/uploads/6/5/4/8/65480647/s336972411168633553_p102_i4_w2560.jpeg

Since the 2nd Amendment was written over 200 years ago, and since none of the writers of it are alive today, how do we know what it really meant?

We need to go to the other writings of the 2nd Amendment signers to see what they really thought. When you read their writings, it is easy to see that they wanted people to be armed with the most up-to-date weapons around. Both, the people who were in favor of a strong central government, and those who were in favor of a weaker federal government, were in favor of top armament for the average people of all the States.

Google and read the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist Papers.

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legendary
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Freedom&Honor
If government people are acting illegally by limiting gun rights when the 2nd Amendment says that gun rights shall not be infringed, it is the duty of the people to sue them personally, as men and women. Such suits should come both from individuals and class action.

the word GUN. or fully automatic rifle are not in the 2nd amendment
the second amendment does not have the word sue or lawsuit in it either

people only have the right to


These are better  Cool

https://www.mtrushmoretshirts.com/uploads/6/5/4/8/65480647/s336972411168633553_p102_i4_w2560.jpeg
legendary
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owning a single shot gun for self defense is one thing
but owning a fully autimatic rifle that can fire 30 shots in a couple seconds is another
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A single shot firearm is totally inadequate for self defense. However, it is adequate for OFFENSE. For example, to rob a storekeeper or a bank only takes a single shot firearm.

A two-shot 12 gang shotgun, used by a person with training, is an effective defense weapon.

Fully automatic weapons are not commonly owned by individuals. For self defense the primary question is what weapon could be grabbed when it was needed. The larger, heavier rifles are less desirable for that. AR15 platform are excellent lightweight, compact self defense rifles.
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