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March 28, 2023, 02:44:09 PM
#58
Virtual game is controlled by the house and shouldn't be encouraged. Players lose lots of money on virtual games yet it brings fast win. Its fast outcome can deminish a player's earning even after winning some funds, the urge to play again is what makes Virtual game look like its manipulative, and players can lose due to the house deciding what the scores would be. It's better to stick to real games than virtual games. Many players in my area don't play virtual anymore. They have gotten a fair share of lossess involved in such game.
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March 28, 2023, 12:31:39 PM
#57
Virtual betting was occurring with the help of online gambling.Now the sports bet of Football make huge difference in the virtual betting.Because the sports bet consists of 60 matches in a single league.So every match had the bet and the gamblers and the owner of the online betting.If you aware of certain player,you can bet on all the matches of such player in the league.If your player had involved and win till semi final,you will had a good chance to win more money from one player in sports betting.
I think virtual betting is the same with fantasy betting and they can also work offline using the machines but they get an inspiration with the real sports, the only difference is like you said a real sport is wider and they can be fairer. 60 matches are too long but I think the availability of the matches will also depend on the betting platforms. Some matches are sometimes not available for some reasons but there are still other sport category and we can also check other betting platforms to see if the matches that are missing on the other is available on them.

Most of the time real betting is occur with the help of offline betting,it also includes the cock bet on the road sides
Yeah, this is true and there is also offline betting which are not available online but it would be great if we can request to some betting sites to allow them. If not, we can also create our own betting platform and put those games there.
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March 28, 2023, 10:54:29 AM
#56
Do you mean virtual football betting as in - esports? or the completing fictional betting "games" that some gambling sites come up with, similar to those ancient horse racing arcade games you'd find? If it is esports, then there is certainly plenty of competitive spirit and high level skills going on there, with games often played to a very high standard. However if you're on about the completely orchestrated and rigged virtual sports games in general, you might as well hop over to slot machine type games, because they are just random number generators that are geared towards paying the house all winnings in the long run, with some flashy graphics and enticing sounds integrated in.
Esports is something totally different than virtual betting. In virtual betting, the outcome of a game is generated with a random number generator or using other algorithms I believe, while esports is a whole universe in itself, and it's pretty fun watching and betting on esports competitions and events, and I don't think that there can be any sort of manipulation in that.

Someone should simply avoid virtual betting if they feel it is not really turning in their favor and go for esports or simply sports betting and try their luck on that. Both sports and esports will require one to have some past experience and knowledge about the games and teams being played though.
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March 27, 2023, 06:18:00 PM
#55
My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.



I haven't had much experience with the Vfootball matches but as far as i know these virtual matches are fixed but usually the general public are not aware of the result.

Secondly please note that the odds for the real matches will keep on changing constantly during the match. This is because if one team is winning, the gambling site will lower the odds for that team so that if anyone bets on that team at that time, he should not be able to make big money, meaning that the team who is in a winning position will always get the lower odds.
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March 27, 2023, 06:13:07 PM
#54
15 in-play bets? Man you must have a lot of monitors and an extreme amount of attention that you know you can still win some of those bets. I myself can only handle one single bet at a time for live matches, and most of the time I lose it even though I had the information because there's just too much factors at play to consider during the match. As for vFootball, I'm not aware that this exists and you can bet on it. Anything that is played only by simulations and computers I do not put my money on because I don't know what to expect.
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March 27, 2023, 05:48:16 PM
#53
I would probably not bet on virtual games as well and rather spend the time and money on a slot machine where I could maybe hit a good multiplier and get a few extra bucks to play later than just betting on a virtual game where I can easily lose the money. I think it is better if someone chooses to bet on a sports event rather than a virtual one as there are more chances of winning in a sports bet.

Regardless if you are betting on virtual betting or slot machine, there's no such big difference as results on both are based on random algorithms.

It doesn't make sense that in terms of losing money easily and quickly, virtual betting is much more prone to it compared to playing with slot machines, as you say.  Both need some luck to win decently.

Maybe it's just that you are not aware of virtual betting that's why you think it's easy to lose money on it compare to slots machine. Both are gambling and always keep in mind that either of those can drain your funds per session, especially in the long run.
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March 27, 2023, 05:40:26 PM
#52
I won't call it manipulation. It's just the urge to keep playing to win more when you win and the urge to win when you lose. It's normal and that's why we have to be careful when gambling. Someone made a topic about chasing losses or closure, something like that. When gambling you always believe the next time will be the next hit so you keep trying and trying till you know it you've lost more than you budgeted. It doesn't work much on sports  betting because the game takes a long amount of time before it finishes and then you place another bet, but in other form of gambling that takes just 3-5 minutes, it's easier to lose your money.  It's not manipulation.
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March 27, 2023, 05:26:06 PM
#51
However, betting is a source of income for some individuals, some people might just be focus on real betting,some on virtual betting, but to my understanding of that virtual is that is quicker stuff, is either you win immediately or you lose immediately, you should always be ready for either of them, and mind you, there is no sure game in virtual betting. I won’t advice individuals especially struggling youths to go into, majority are into it though, I have been a betting cashier and I am talking from experience, is preferable that you go into real betting than virtual betting because real betting especially football is a little safer and capital will always be reserved money most at times but comparing to virtual betting, people goes to the extent of selling their properties in order to recover their already lost money, which most at times is it doesn’t go that way, it will make you miserable especially most people who are addicted to it already using whatever money in their possession to invest on virtual betting, addiction have made some use their house rent, school fees to play virtual betting, my advice to the youths who are  mostly into it already is that they should have self-control of it, if they must play, they should play with their reserved money and always have limit or better still they should invest more on real betting because more hopes are higher in real betting, though no one is sure.
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March 27, 2023, 03:50:02 PM
#50
My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

Do you mean virtual football betting as in - esports? or the completing fictional betting "games" that some gambling sites come up with, similar to those ancient horse racing arcade games you'd find? If it is esports, then there is certainly plenty of competitive spirit and high level skills going on there, with games often played to a very high standard. However if you're on about the completely orchestrated and rigged virtual sports games in general, you might as well hop over to slot machine type games, because they are just random number generators that are geared towards paying the house all winnings in the long run, with some flashy graphics and enticing sounds integrated in.
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March 27, 2023, 02:45:22 PM
#49
I would NEVER bet on a virtual event because it is not based on anything real and any prediction is purely based on chance.
in short, a waste of time and perhaps of money.
It's sure to be fun, with loads of events to play at any time, but the lack of history or real differences makes it a poor example of betting in my opinion.
I would probably not bet on virtual games as well and rather spend the time and money on a slot machine where I could maybe hit a good multiplier and get a few extra bucks to play later than just betting on a virtual game where I can easily lose the money. I think it is better if someone chooses to bet on a sports event rather than a virtual one as there are more chances of winning in a sports bet.

I don't want to be judgmental about those who place bets on virtual games as they probably know what they are doing, it is just that I wouldn't prefer doing that and would probably go for something else instead.
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March 26, 2023, 02:30:26 PM
#48
Virtual betting was occurring with the help of online gambling.Now the sports bet of Football make huge difference in the virtual betting.Because the sports bet consists of 60 matches in a single league.So every match had the bet and the gamblers and the owner of the online betting.If you aware of certain player,you can bet on all the matches of such player in the league.If your player had involved and win till semi final,you will had a good chance to win more money from one player in sports betting.Most of the time real betting is occur with the help of offline betting,it also includes the cock bet on the road sides.Because cock fight is most favourite game in the Asia and Southeast Asia region.So it allow more offline gamblers in cock fighting of the offline gambling section.Some in Asian countries,the people favour of real betting then the virtual betting,because they can able to decide the betting cock based on the experience.
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March 26, 2023, 08:22:12 AM
#47
This is true. Gambling losers usually have a reason when they lose and it’s blaming the casino reputation or the game itself. There’s no way to satisfy someone if they lose even a casino with great reputation.
It depends from individual to individual, I have lost on many gambling site before when I was playing virtual bet, all I noticed was that it is good to just play for a short time and if you win, call it a day. If you continue to play, losing is very likely to happen. I like going for over 1.5 goals while playing virtual sport matches, having like 1.25 odds. Using low amount of money makes it interesting.
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March 26, 2023, 04:20:42 AM
#46
My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

I say with certainty that live betting has much less chance of manipulation than virtual betting.
Sports betting for live games is purely based on the probability that a given team or player has to win or lose that competition.
Your chance of winning or losing depends exclusively on playing for the correct team and bookmakers increase or decrease the reward according to the odds of winning one or another team/player.

Obviously, there are some cases of manipulation that even involve bribing players so that they collaborate by committing fouls, penalties or even favoring the defeat of their own team, but this is something that tends to occur more in second or third base championships.

The manipulation were much, from few comments over here the probability of one winning in 10 to 15 selected matches are very slim meaning I have to reduce my games to either 2 to 5 maximum with this it would create a lighter chance for me to win, although it's not a guarantee that whenever man reduces he wins instantly.
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March 25, 2023, 08:38:43 PM
#45
That's just a conspiracy theory.
You are not the only one who is making a bet on electronic games, maybe you just made a mistake. Did you consider that? Betting for the favorites doesn't mean it will always win.
There are just two faces in sports betting, win or lose, there's no maybe there. You lost, get over it, and try again another day.
And if electronic games are being manipulated by a higher power then it's up to you to avoid them. Don't force yourself on betting on something you don't know and rant about it afterward.
Move on, change sports, or stick to the games that you have knowledge about to enhance the winning chance.

Everything is a conspiracy theory...until it isn't. How could one possibly verify the results of a virtual game? I think that it's definitely viable for these games to total up bets across all establishments/providers offering these virtual games and skewing the result toward whichever is most profitable. You can call that a conspiracy, but do you really think that game providers are aiming toward fairness, or profit?
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March 25, 2023, 07:54:09 PM
#44
My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

I say with certainty that live betting has much less chance of manipulation than virtual betting.
Sports betting for live games is purely based on the probability that a given team or player has to win or lose that competition.
Your chance of winning or losing depends exclusively on playing for the correct team and bookmakers increase or decrease the reward according to the odds of winning one or another team/player.

Obviously, there are some cases of manipulation that even involve bribing players so that they collaborate by committing fouls, penalties or even favoring the defeat of their own team, but this is something that tends to occur more in second or third base championships.
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March 25, 2023, 05:14:24 PM
#43


After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.



There's always suspicion of manipulation in virtual games especially if you lose a lot of money because they have full control of the game compared to real bets where you can easily spot if the match is fixed because when it's between simulation and real games the real games cannot be automated to give the exact results compared to virtual games where its pre-program so real games are subjects to a lot of errors on virtual games the team can it perfectly.
So it's better to play in real games because of the absence of your suspicion because you can easily detect manipulation if there is.
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March 25, 2023, 04:31:34 PM
#42
Manipulation is sometimes always the reason for those bettors that loses their respective bets. Why not just accepts that you really loses that bet and moved on with other bets? It's not that a virtual betting site will focus only on you to manipulate the results.

This is true. Gambling losers usually have a reason when they lose and it’s blaming the casino reputation or the game itself. There’s no way to satisfy someone if they lose even a casino with great reputation.

Next time, try to use a virtual betting site that already established a good trust rating in the virtual betting industry for you to at least not overthink too much that you are being manipulated or being cheated.

Still the same. Virtual betting has same provider even with trusted casino or not. Bookies is just being added by the casino but the casino doesn’t make it.
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March 25, 2023, 04:19:21 PM
#41
Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?

Manipulation is sometimes always the reason for those bettors that loses their respective bets. Why not just accepts that you really loses that bet and moved on with other bets? It's not that a virtual betting site will focus only on you to manipulate the results.

Next time, try to use a virtual betting site that already established a good trust rating in the virtual betting industry for you to at least not overthink too much that you are being manipulated or being cheated.
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March 25, 2023, 04:18:25 PM
#40
I also don't know to what extent you can successfully bet on matches that are VR or simulated. In any case, I don't think it's something you can have any sort of control over. There is no live stream and you cannot see how the match progresses. In principle you don't have that with real matches with real people, but the difference is that a live stream is available and that you know that it is not just software. There are people who do gamble on virtual games, but I don't see the point of that. I don't even know what those quotes are based on. The similarity in both cases is that as a gambler you have no influence whatsoever and are dependent on the system.

Virtual betting is something like slots.  They have predetermined result and is affected by random number generator.  So I think this type of betting falls under luck-based game.  It is true that no matter how skilled we are in sposts betting, we can never have any sort of control in virtual betting because as I stated, the gameplay is fictional and is generated by machines and not performed by actual players.  The only control the player has his is over his bankroll, the amount he will wager, and choosing the possible winning team.

It is very clear the difference between real sports betting and virtual sports betting.  One is predetermined (virtual betting) while the other one is not and is dependent on the performance of the actual team competing.
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March 25, 2023, 02:35:53 PM
#39
I also don't know to what extent you can successfully bet on matches that are VR or simulated. In any case, I don't think it's something you can have any sort of control over. There is no live stream and you cannot see how the match progresses. In principle you don't have that with real matches with real people, but the difference is that a live stream is available and that you know that it is not just software. There are people who do gamble on virtual games, but I don't see the point of that. I don't even know what those quotes are based on. The similarity in both cases is that as a gambler you have no influence whatsoever and are dependent on the system.
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