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Topic: VIRTUAL MINING COIN [VMC] | OUR MINED 410 PAYCOINS [XPY] IS ARRIVED!!! - page 93. (Read 146097 times)

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First let me say I am not questioning the coin, which I think is very interesting and I do plan to invest.  However, there is some questionable mathematics going on ...

I tried to write this last night, but bitcointalk was down and in the end I went to bed ... Wink


So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley

Though you need to remember they are percentages so if it were ... for example ... 28.9 % of 100 or 37.6% of 5 ... which is larger?

No i think not. You talk about amounts but we talk about percentages.

Quite - and percentages are percentages OF something, so in order to compare 28.9% and 37.6% (which is what was asked) you need to know what they are percentages of?

In this case not only are they starting from different values, they are also using different units - 28.9% of the price of GH/s and 37.6% of the quantity of GH/s; you cannot simply say 37.6 is bigger than 28.9 and leave it at that.

So we come to:


I don't dispute that; but merely question the maths.

Really? So if value of gold drops by 20%, but in the end, you have 30% more of it, its a loss because now you need more gold for the same value? Special kind of logic  Undecided
(gold is just an example because most people understand things better if they talk about something they know.)

This is actually a slightly different question - as you need to know HOW you got  the 30% more of it and allow for that.  It won't have appeared by magic, most likely the price fell and you thought "ah, I'll buy some more."

So let's work an example:

1. For simplicity assume gold costs $100/ounce and you buy one ounce.
Position:
Spent: $100
Hold: 1 ounce
Value: $100
Net position (value-spent): $0

2. Gold Falls by 20% (now $80/ounce)
Position:
Spent: $100
Hold: 1 ounce
Value: $80
Net position (value-spent): -$20

3. Buy 30% (0.3 oz) more gold at $80/ounce, cost $24
Position:
Spent: $100+$24 = $124
Hold: 1.0 + 0.3 = 1.3 ounce
Value: $104 (1.3 x 80)
Net position (value-spent): -$20

So yes, you have more gold but you are still DOWN $20 (in cash value) because your initial investment has lost $20.  You will only get ahead if the value goes up again.

Clear?
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This is a 2 month period, not 30 days, and  this still so far from 300%...
And what do you think, can this happen again in the future? The value of the GHS is 0.00813200BTC= 3.7USD/GHS
Do you think, the GHS value will half of the current value? (1.85USD) the cheapest ASIC miner is about 3USD/GHS.
This is why we created the VMC now, not earlier.

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Sorry my mistake, looked like I missed a "S" on month!!!

Here's the link for you A$$hats: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cexio/ghsbtc

Troll lol lol lol lol.



Thanks you linked GHS/BTC.

Yes it falls, so what does it mean? We can buy more and more GHS.

Cheaper GHS=More GHS.

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"BTC produced by the GHS daily reinvested to ensure a steady increase in the coverage of our coin."
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Sorry my mistake, looked like I missed a "S" on month!!!

Here's the link for you A$$hats: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cexio/ghsbtc

Troll lol lol lol lol.

http://i.imgur.com/YFYVuYe.png
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I don't dispute that; but merely question the maths.

Really? So if value of gold drops by 20%, but in the end, you have 30% more of it, its a loss because now you need more gold for the same value? Special kind of logic  Undecided
(gold is just an example because most people understand things better if they talk about something they know.)
Yes exactly. 

Yes I think thats right!
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I don't dispute that; but merely question the maths.

Really? So if value of gold drops by 20%, but in the end, you have 30% more of it, its a loss because now you need more gold for the same value? Special kind of logic  Undecided
(gold is just an example because most people understand things better if they talk about something they know.)
Yes exactly. 
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The math is simple: we grown day by day the GHS. The vmc redeemable to GHS. SO coin is valuable. No?

If any people can say another valuable coin that have collateral security, please tell me! Please! Smiley
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I don't dispute that; but merely question the maths.

Really? So if value of gold drops by 20%, but in the end, you have 30% more of it, its a loss because now you need more gold for the same value? Special kind of logic  Undecided
(gold is just an example because most people understand things better if they talk about something they know.)
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So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley

Though you need to remember they are percentages so if it were ... for example ... 28.9 % of 100 or 37.6% of 5 ... which is larger?
I'm afraid, you forgot one important thing:
This is "only" the collateral of the coins. I tried to find another coin, which have any backed collateral, but I couldn't find it. So, which is the larger: 37.6% or 0?

The value of the VMC coins is a different thing, not the collateral will determine the value of the coins. After all the value of the other coins would be 0.
Isn't it?

I don't dispute that; but merely question the maths.
hero member
Activity: 532
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So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley

Though you need to remember they are percentages so if it were ... for example ... 28.9 % of 100 or 37.6% of 5 ... which is larger?

No i think not. You talk about amounts but we talk about percentages.
full member
Activity: 143
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So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley

Though you need to remember they are percentages so if it were ... for example ... 28.9 % of 100 or 37.6% of 5 ... which is larger?
I'm afraid, you forgot one important thing:
This is "only" the collateral of the coins. I tried to find another coin, which have any backed collateral, but I couldn't find it. So, which is the larger: 37.6% or 0?

The value of the VMC coins is a different thing, not the collateral will determine the value of the coins. After all the value of the other coins would be 0.
Isn't it?
hero member
Activity: 1029
Merit: 712
So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley

Though you need to remember they are percentages so if it were ... for example ... 28.9 % of 100 or 37.6% of 5 ... which is larger?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
So some math to Bitcoinblues:

Which is the bigger number? 28.9 or 37.6?

My friend, please read carefully our first post.... and join the IPO Smiley
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Activity: 143
Merit: 100
Your going to invest the IPO at CEX-IO?

You DO mean CEX-IO that's DOWN 300% in the last month and is continuing to fall and will NEVER recover?

Oh OK, sounds like a great deal!

So the value of GHS in the cex.io reduced 28.9% in the last month. I increased the quantity of my GHS in same period with 37.6%
I'm afraid, you have right...it sounds like a great deal.  Wink

So don't hesitate, join to the IPO Smiley
hero member
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hero member
Activity: 532
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Your going to invest the IPO at CEX-IO?

You DO mean CEX-IO that's DOWN 300% in the last month and is continuing to fall and will NEVER recover?

Oh OK, sounds like a great deal!

Anyway yes, ghs price is falling. But ASIC price is falling too day by day. BUT, we redeem the produced BTC's to GHS every day. So our GHS amount will growing not falling.

We belive that ghs price won't fallen, it's about 4 dollar/ GHS. It's good point to invest.

Can you buy ASIC much cheaper now?
hero member
Activity: 532
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Your going to invest the IPO at CEX-IO?

You DO mean CEX-IO that's DOWN 300% in the last month and is continuing to fall and will NEVER recover?

Oh OK, sounds like a great deal!

300 % at the last month? My friend please link to us this calculation!!! Where have you saw that?
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Your going to invest the IPO at CEX-IO?

You DO mean CEX-IO that's DOWN 300% in the last month and is continuing to fall and will NEVER recover?

Oh OK, sounds like a great deal!
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