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Topic: Vitalik Buterin confirms another ETH hard fork (Read 3097 times)

legendary
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November 03, 2016, 09:30:47 PM
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@Minecache
You say that.. as you quote me LOL

@mining1
No we "Trolls" are not desperate to "get into ETH"
I'd rather be raped by ET thanks  Grin
ET = tweakin' on mETH Fuel tokens.

What? i want to be like Fraudcache and bag hold ETH hoping i can break even one day ?
Hey ICO scam coin ETH fraud's no ETH is not light-years above other "cryptos"
..what ever the fuck that means  Roll Eyes

I think you are implying Ethereum is a plausible competition to Bitcoin etc.
Problem is.. it's not a currency at all.. just a convoluted buggy app's platform thingy.

Notice how Steem stole your thunder then Monero and more recently Zcash ?
Nobody gives two shits about your stupid ICO scam coin bullshit.

PS:
ANOTHER FORK ROFLCOPTER !!11



I think Butters is gearing up to dump again  Roll Eyes

PPS:
You know your trippin' balls tweakin' rollin hard on mETH when..
Your head looks like a chopper from the old TV show Airwolf !
full member
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Lol poor trolls are desperate to get into ETH so they just FUD. ETH is light years above other cryptos, both in real usage ( not just speculation ), except for bitcoin since probably ~5% of it's volume is actually used as currency for buying and selling things.
This is one example of how blockchains will be used in the near future, building dapps and anything that crosses your mind https://www.bourse.lu/blockchain-press-release

Buy a bag of dicks you say?

hero member
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Lol poor trolls are desperate to get into ETH so they just FUD. ETH is light years above other cryptos, both in real usage ( not just speculation ), except for bitcoin since probably ~5% of it's volume is actually used as currency for buying and selling things.
This is one example of how blockchains will be used in the near future, building dapps and anything that crosses your mind https://www.bourse.lu/blockchain-press-release
P.S : eth is extremely cheap now, in few weeks after the zcash speculation will calm down the money will flow back from zcash to eth, same for the bitcoin pump, so it will be 12-14$ in max 4 weeks. Also the ddos is over, and with the upcoming fork it will be really expensive to ddos so that's a long term solution.
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It seems that ETH is doing one thing right. Developers have no problem with enforcing their way of thinking on the community.

If they want to do hard fork they just do it. With bitcoin it would take a months of discussion, talking about pros and cons and in the end community would still be divided.

Look at the shitcoins - they're all doing it right then. You can fork twice a week if your network doesn't have any value and nobody will care. Shitcoins for the win.
sr. member
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It seems that ETH is doing one thing right. Developers have no problem with enforcing their way of thinking on the community.

If they want to do hard fork they just do it. With bitcoin it would take a months of discussion, talking about pros and cons and in the end community would still be divided.

this is the difference between bitcoin and rest of the coins in the market,people has invested money into these and they have to take decisions carefully,everything depends upon what the core DEV decides ,monopoly has being the core of ETH. Tongue

But that happens to the bitcoin as well. The Core developers have rejected many community requests.
hero member
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Have Fun )@@( Stay Safe
It seems that ETH is doing one thing right. Developers have no problem with enforcing their way of thinking on the community.

If they want to do hard fork they just do it. With bitcoin it would take a months of discussion, talking about pros and cons and in the end community would still be divided.

this is the difference between bitcoin and rest of the coins in the market,people has invested money into these and they have to take decisions carefully,everything depends upon what the core DEV decides ,monopoly has being the core of ETH. Tongue
hero member
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This hard fork shows that ETH was quite vulnerable to DDoS / Gas usage attack. What worries me is that ETH is not used that much yet. With more usage there will be more elaborate attacks, more computation etc. We could get into the same state as with the block size issue in Bitcoin were the network can not easily handle the load if ETH keeps growing.

There is also the blockchain size to worry about. Ethereum is just one big experimental platform if you think about it. The developers have no idea how to scale it, how to secure it and at what direction to take it in the long term. All they had was developer convention pony shows and fantastic promises. Also look at all the invested amounts in the Ethereum based ICO's. That is all bound to crash.
I just every someone is said more attack cen make the security are more strength. The limit of gas is under 1000000 and i just think will got more delay for tracting about the eth in this time, we are need more confirmation from vitalik about this. seems a lot of the ico are under the eth network is need for moving into the another database.  Cheesy
legendary
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It seems that ETH is doing one thing right. Developers have no problem with enforcing their way of thinking on the community.

If they want to do hard fork they just do it. With bitcoin it would take a months of discussion, talking about pros and cons and in the end community would still be divided.
legendary
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This hard fork shows that ETH was quite vulnerable to DDoS / Gas usage attack. What worries me is that ETH is not used that much yet. With more usage there will be more elaborate attacks, more computation etc. We could get into the same state as with the block size issue in Bitcoin were the network can not easily handle the load if ETH keeps growing.

There is also the blockchain size to worry about. Ethereum is just one big experimental platform if you think about it. The developers have no idea how to scale it, how to secure it and at what direction to take it in the long term. All they had was developer convention pony shows and fantastic promises. Also look at all the invested amounts in the Ethereum based ICO's. That is all bound to crash.
sr. member
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This hard fork shows that ETH was quite vulnerable to DDoS / Gas usage attack. What worries me is that ETH is not used that much yet. With more usage there will be more elaborate attacks, more computation etc. We could get into the same state as with the block size issue in Bitcoin were the network can not easily handle the load if ETH keeps growing.

Is the ETH also vulnaerable to these kind of attack? Will ETC not fork in order to mitigate the attack?
sr. member
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This hard fork shows that ETH was quite vulnerable to DDoS / Gas usage attack. What worries me is that ETH is not used that much yet. With more usage there will be more elaborate attacks, more computation etc. We could get into the same state as with the block size issue in Bitcoin were the network can not easily handle the load if ETH keeps growing.
sr. member
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You can't really compare Bitcoin to any other coin. Things have changed so much over the last couple years.

Most people aren't creating coins because they want to advance the technology or give people an alternative to fiat currencies.
It's a business model. Developers are becoming millionaires. Every decision being made is to raise capital and increase profits.
If you think anyone is doing any of this for any reason other than to make money you're fooling yourself.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
@minecache

Another FORK ?
You know what this means right ?

You will have another chance to shout Criminal Coin then admit to dumping them on Poloniex  Cheesy

..fraud Cheesy
legendary
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legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
You or your fraud-buddy posted that.. i can tell *easily*

I have been watching you for ages and i know your game well.
i dealt with many before you came along here during the January / February hype pump ETH scam antics.
When you showed up here to spam this forum with nothing but ETH topics and comments.

Buddy, this forum does not like me or my comments or my POLLS.
But when i made one asking the community if you were a fraud it was unanimous.. they all agreed. 100%

You spew retard deceitful predatory dishonest bullshit galore then play dumb over & over.
And you yourself has been more guilty than anyone on the entire board for TROLLING.
Your post history is littered with this behavior.. not like you can even *try* and deny it.

Remember when you said "Microsoft is USING Ethereum" ?
Remember when you said "IBM is USING Ethereum" ?
Remember when you said "Big banks are buying shitloads of Ethereum" ?
Remember when you said "Ethereum will be $100 in 12 months" right after the DAO incident ?

Should i go on with the Fraudcache hits ?  Cheesy

So uhhh guys.. when was the last time you heard Microsoft + IBM + Ethereum ?
..or "Azure ?  Cheesy
it's been many months now hasn't ?

WHO was sayin' it ?
Hmmmm i wonder .. it's a mystery huh ?

Spew sooooooo much lies then hide for a bit then pretend you didn't spam the fuck out of the whole scene ?
Yup.. it's called Ethereum marketing.
Featured News story at Coindesk LOL

ICO launched in 2014 and i created a SCAM topic on it.
Tacked on mining later ? YES !
Why later ? hmmmm

Hmm i wonder if people would buy a shitty pointless coin with no features and nothing but a road-map ?
Probably not.. which makes a great opportunity for the dev & friends to buy a massive fuck load of ICO scam coins.
We know this because they did !
It was posted on my SCAM topic on ETH in 2014 when the ETH guys were 99% caught red-handed buying all their own coins in massive blocks of 100 BTC non fucking stop.. while Coindesk for some inexplicable reason kept hammering the news site with massive hardcore advertisement "news stories"

DAO was a setup ? many have speculated the plan all along was to attack it and blame a hacker.
i wouldn't doubt it..

So coins bought on minute 1 on launch day ?
I don't suppose that is where Butters got his coins he admitted to dumping for a million dollars ?
And why did he NEED a millions dollars in FIAT ?
Who keeps talking about the code being written ? It better be Butters if he is paid a million in cash for his "work"

Jealous ? = LOL
I don't fucking think so.. i don't get jealous over participating in "ICO" scams.
And comparing it to Bitcoin ?  retarded.
I think it was Roach who had posted a dozen times why ETH "Fuel tokens" can never be a real currency.
They were never designed to be a currency that can rival Bitcoin.
So the notion you can loiter around comparing them to BTC and claiming it will replace Bitcoin one day is silly.
And dumb and / or deceitful.
It simply can't.. it's not an opinion it's simply mechanics.
Not only that but ETH's very own supporters posted on this forum a million times ETH IS NOT A CURRENCY in some type of defense retort.

Jealous ?
Of what partaking in the hype and spam and pump that lured in shitloads of greedy victims ?
The ones that put that million dollars in Butters pocket ?
Where did that million in FIAT come from ? Ask the bag holders sitting on ETH right now Wink

Ethereum has been a record breaking vulgar display of scammy manipulative shenanigans the likes Crypto had never seen before.
From end to end in every aspect this shitty ass ICO "scheme" coin this scam went big.
Biggest hype campaign.. biggest pump.. biggest spam.. most manipulated market cap etc etc..
Over what ?

Scroll up and see one of these guys hinting at it..
he said..

every day that i open altcoin board i see another drama with ethereum, it is either being pumped and dumped or it is being forked. nothing else except these two (technically 3) things happen with this coin.

EXACTLY ..because there IS nothing else to talk about. the APP's (smart contract) gimmick failed.
All these scammy assholes do is swing from one marketing campaign agenda to another..
In 2014 they started with nothing but "Turing complete" babble.. later it was IBM then Microsoft.
Bouncing from "App's" to "Dapp's" to "smart contracts" or what ever techno-fintech faggotry they can cook up.. to SELL YOU MORE ICO "fuel tokens" to sit on and bag hold while the dev and friend keep dumping for MORE FIAT cash money (Real Money) $$$ ..as they admitted.

Jealous ?
Uhhhmm no Fraudboy i am amused.. you are a clown and i never bought any ETH ICO "APP's" scam coin tokens so i am the one laughing bud  Grin
What are you going to do about it ? make fun of my hair cut ?

Keep buying your mETH ICO Fuel-tokens Investards !




PS:
Go to Polonibox and look at the history.. search for "Ethereum / ETH + IBM or Microsoft"
Then laugh as the mods there let them spam on on like crazy and banned people who disputed any of it.
You will see a small taste of the colossal scale of spam bullshit they poured on all over.
legendary
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This thread seems to be (mostly) like a group of people all agreeing on how much they hate ETH. It has the air of jealousy really. ETH is a young technology and as such it's being refined and repaired, which is a good thing IMHO. What's the big deal about hard-forking if it's necessary? Obviously it gets more difficult as time proceeds but doing it while you still can seems like an expedient choice to me. I'm sure BTC took at least one hard fork early on. Hard-forking seems to many people to be just wrong. Like saying it is like saying a bad word. I think that if you can recognize when you are wrong about something, admit it, then change and move on that's a good thing. Rather than to stubbornly continue with what you were doing at all costs. Block size anyone?

If you compare it to BTC (which I do because most of the biggest ETH haters seem to be BTC lovers) - didn't BTC go through a lot of problems and fixes early on? So what's the big deal?

And as another comparison, supposedly ETH is largely staked by a "big group of bankers" or whatever? No doubt sitting at a round table in a smoky dark room or something? So it isn't very decentralized. Neither is BTC. What percentage of holders of BTC do you think are "average" people rather than very large investors/speculators?

Some people are also griping about Vitalek and the ETH dev team. What great leaps forward have any BTC developers made in the last 2 years?

None of these technologies are perfect obviously. There are too many of them and most of them wont survive. The ones that will have to use every opportunity to make them better and stronger. I think that the attacks on ETH to date are probably from people just like the haters on this thread. I think that if they don't kill it they will make it much, much stronger. Hopefully the hard-fork/s will make it stronger and then I would thank whoever made the attacks for driving the improvement.
BRAVO. So very eloquently said and so true. You are a star sir.
newbie
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ETH = internet 2.0 and im sticking with it for the long run  Smiley
legendary
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This thread seems to be (mostly) like a group of people all agreeing on how much they hate ETH. It has the air of jealousy really. ETH is a young technology and as such it's being refined and repaired, which is a good thing IMHO. What's the big deal about hard-forking if it's necessary? Obviously it gets more difficult as time proceeds but doing it while you still can seems like an expedient choice to me. I'm sure BTC took at least one hard fork early on. Hard-forking seems to many people to be just wrong. Like saying it is like saying a bad word. I think that if you can recognize when you are wrong about something, admit it, then change and move on that's a good thing. Rather than to stubbornly continue with what you were doing at all costs. Block size anyone?

I don't hate Ethereum as a technology, nor people involved in its development for that matter. I don't like the facts that they bailed out with the DAO and that they are keep changing the rules.

note: Bitcoin was never hard forked!

If you compare it to BTC (which I do because most of the biggest ETH haters seem to be BTC lovers) - didn't BTC go through a lot of problems and fixes early on? So what's the big deal?

You can't compare ETH with BTC, because of 3 simple reasons:

1. Satoshi (or the group behind this name) didn't raised money from the masses.
2. It has issues, but their solutions divide opinions of the people behind its development as Bitcoin didn't changed what it stands for (i.e. code is law).
3. Bitcoin is the king. Period.

And as another comparison, supposedly ETH is largely staked by a "big group of bankers" or whatever? No doubt sitting at a round table in a smoky dark room or something? So it isn't very decentralized. Neither is BTC. What percentage of holders of BTC do you think are "average" people rather than very large investors/speculators?

Nobody said that Bitcoin is decentralized, but talking about decentralization and comparing it with ETH is hilarious. I already created a thread some time ago and there I've said that the decentralization is a dream and I truly believe in that.

Some people are also griping about Vitalek and the ETH dev team. What great leaps forward have any BTC developers made in the last 2 years?

None of these technologies are perfect obviously. There are too many of them and most of them wont survive. The ones that will have to use every opportunity to make them better and stronger. I think that the attacks on ETH to date are probably from people just like the haters on this thread. I think that if they don't kill it they will make it much, much stronger. Hopefully the hard-fork/s will make it stronger and then I would thank whoever made the attacks for driving the improvement.

Bitcoin developers are not getting paid.

Look, Vitalik and such people are great minds and "being in their shoes" is not easy at all, but this doesn't change the fact that the DAO was a $2,5Bn failure. I won't blame anyone if Bitcoin fails and I lose money on it, but things with ETH are kinda different.
sr. member
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This thread seems to be (mostly) like a group of people all agreeing on how much they hate ETH. It has the air of jealousy really. ETH is a young technology and as such it's being refined and repaired, which is a good thing IMHO. What's the big deal about hard-forking if it's necessary? Obviously it gets more difficult as time proceeds but doing it while you still can seems like an expedient choice to me. I'm sure BTC took at least one hard fork early on. Hard-forking seems to many people to be just wrong. Like saying it is like saying a bad word. I think that if you can recognize when you are wrong about something, admit it, then change and move on that's a good thing. Rather than to stubbornly continue with what you were doing at all costs. Block size anyone?

If you compare it to BTC (which I do because most of the biggest ETH haters seem to be BTC lovers) - didn't BTC go through a lot of problems and fixes early on? So what's the big deal?

And as another comparison, supposedly ETH is largely staked by a "big group of bankers" or whatever? No doubt sitting at a round table in a smoky dark room or something? So it isn't very decentralized. Neither is BTC. What percentage of holders of BTC do you think are "average" people rather than very large investors/speculators?

Some people are also griping about Vitalek and the ETH dev team. What great leaps forward have any BTC developers made in the last 2 years?

None of these technologies are perfect obviously. There are too many of them and most of them wont survive. The ones that will have to use every opportunity to make them better and stronger. I think that the attacks on ETH to date are probably from people just like the haters on this thread. I think that if they don't kill it they will make it much, much stronger. Hopefully the hard-fork/s will make it stronger and then I would thank whoever made the attacks for driving the improvement.
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I've often compared Vitalik to Janet Yellen and Ethereum to the NYSE. No matter how crazy things get and how bad the fundamentals are, ETH simply won't crash in price. No matter how awful the decisions Vitalik makes, ETH simply will not go down.

Then one day reality finally kicks in and the turd starts to free fall.
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