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Topic: Vod abusing Trust Sytem (Read 3133 times)

sr. member
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July 12, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
#56
I was referring to the PM's

No.. you were talking about PMs, not PM's. Unless there's a bar called PM's I don't know...


http://scottbush.net/language/apostrophes-have-no-place-in-plural-acronyms/

hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
June 24, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
#55
I don't understand why isn't banned. They're spamming unsolicited emails and are trying to make a mockery of the trust system.  How is all that not grounds for a ban?

Looks like the "emails" is a typo. Smiley

IIRC, only theymos can read the PMs.
But if you click "report to admin" after receiving an unsolicited PM, the global mods will be able to read it, and banned the sender if needed.

So, I guess the receivers haven't reported it yet. Cheesy

Yeah, it was a typo. I was referring to the PM's, thanks for the catch.  Looking back at that post, I made a few errors.  Guess that's what happens with late night posting and a few beers, LOL!
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
newbie
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member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
I smoke one in the morning, I smoke one in the nit
June 24, 2014, 11:09:34 AM
#52
Yup it was removed by mods, after he reported it lol.
It was a cannabis security, legal. They thought it was illegal cause I have a hidden room built in my house.

I kindly messaged him to remove or fix it at least but no response back. Thats why this thing is broke. The sad part is he got good trust from fighting scamers wtf kinda shit is that.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
June 24, 2014, 11:05:10 AM
#51
Trust system is broke, it should alert you when someone leaves trust rating. I got negative trust, you can tell the person just skimmed the post a I made and then gave me negative feedback, off of what he thought it to be.

How I know he skimmed the post?
1  It was not a loan it was a security, its not a translation issue hes is from the USA.
2 It is legal in the state I am in... He did not read the full post.

See how that is broke? He got both reasons why he gave negative trust wrong but yet it still sticks, give me a break. It would be one thing if he had the facts right lmfao.

It seems the post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--643994, link found in your trust page) has been removed, and so I couldn't evaluate your point 1 and 2...
member
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I smoke one in the morning, I smoke one in the nit
June 24, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
#50
Trust system is broke, it should alert you when someone leaves trust rating. I got negative trust, you can tell the person just skimmed the post a I made and then gave me negative feedback, off of what he thought it to be.

How I know he skimmed the post?
1  It was not a loan it was a security, its not a translation issue hes is from the USA.
2 It is legal in the state I am in... He did not read the full post.

See how that is broke? He got both reasons why he gave negative trust wrong but yet it still sticks, give me a break. It would be one thing if he had the facts right lmfao.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
June 24, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
#49
Yes he's banned now, he was spamming PMs, I got 2 in the past couple days sent to multiple recipients, I'm sure there were many more.

For how long?
full member
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June 24, 2014, 10:17:03 AM
#48
Can't really blame Vod, BTCJam have a poor arbitration system, they don't really make the lender return the loan. Vod wanted warn everyone just in case you scam as this is rather high risk.

Exactly.  In this case, he took put 9 "reputation" loans climbing to 0.3btc.  Then suddenly two simultaneous loan requests for 9btc - a 30x increase.
https://btcjam.com/users/18891

Looks like a reputation scam to me, so I don't trust you.  I will remove the negative trust once you have made a couple payments on your two active loans.

I don't know. There's not much you can do unfortunately. Maybe he will reply eventually or he'll respond to this thread. How long ago did you message him and how many times?

I don't have the time or interest to reply to every PM I receive and if people PM multiple times I just block them.  Most of them offer no new information, simply saying "I'm not a scammer" or "I've never scammed anyone".  Same thing I read from everyone who eventually scams.  Every scammer has to have their first scam - if your actions fit the profile of a scammer, expect me not to trust you.

Hi Vod,

I can understand the suspicion, but i'll pay back everything correctly on time Smiley
I'll send you another pm on the 10th then (first payment is due to the 10th of the month)

~ Luc
legendary
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June 24, 2014, 07:08:43 AM
#47
Yes he's banned now, he was spamming PMs, I got 2 in the past couple days sent to multiple recipients, I'm sure there were many more.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
June 24, 2014, 05:18:18 AM
#46
I don't understand why isn't banned. They're spamming unsolicited emails and are trying to make a mockery of the trust system.  How is all that not grounds for a ban?

Looks like the "emails" is a typo. Smiley

IIRC, only theymos can read the PMs.
But if you click "report to admin" after receiving an unsolicited PM, the global mods will be able to read it, and banned the sender if needed.

So, I guess the receivers haven't reported it yet. Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
June 23, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
#45
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.

Nah, you won't reach that target IMO.
It is really "hard" to get as many people angry and annoyed, unless you have a big business, like TF was.
Also, you may get banned for sending unsolicited PMs, before receiving "enough" negative trusts. (I can see that from your trust page).

I don't understand why isn't banned. They're spamming unsolicited emails and are trying to make a mockery of the trust system.  How is all that not grounds for a ban?
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
June 23, 2014, 09:48:31 PM
#44
Can't really blame Vod, BTCJam have a poor arbitration system, they don't really make the lender return the loan. Vod wanted warn everyone just in case you scam as this is rather high risk.

Exactly.  In this case, he took put 9 "reputation" loans climbing to 0.3btc.  Then suddenly two simultaneous loan requests for 9btc - a 30x increase.
https://btcjam.com/users/18891

Looks like a reputation scam to me, so I don't trust you.  I will remove the negative trust once you have made a couple payments on your two active loans.

I don't know. There's not much you can do unfortunately. Maybe he will reply eventually or he'll respond to this thread. How long ago did you message him and how many times?

I don't have the time or interest to reply to every PM I receive and if people PM multiple times I just block them.  Most of them offer no new information, simply saying "I'm not a scammer" or "I've never scammed anyone".  Same thing I read from everyone who eventually scams.  Every scammer has to have their first scam - if your actions fit the profile of a scammer, expect me not to trust you.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
June 23, 2014, 10:34:41 AM
#43
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.

Nah, you won't reach that target IMO.
It is really "hard" to get as many people angry and annoyed, unless you have a big business, like TF was.
Also, you may get banned for sending unsolicited PMs, before receiving "enough" negative trusts. (I can see that from your trust page).
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
June 23, 2014, 10:01:16 AM
#42
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.

Impossible



We'll see.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
June 23, 2014, 09:42:50 AM
#41
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.

Impossible

newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
June 23, 2014, 09:33:46 AM
#40
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
June 23, 2014, 08:32:33 AM
#39
He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
June 23, 2014, 08:28:29 AM
#38
Vod remove your negative and give me negative back.

So you are happy with the negative trust, but not happy with the feedback contents?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
June 23, 2014, 08:05:18 AM
#37
As everyone said, Trust system is un-moderated and it's basically the buyer/seller responsibility to check the feedbacks and see if they are reasonable or not. If you sell something in the future just send them this topic's link (to show your arguments about the feedback).
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