Topic: Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT! - page 37. (Read 23919 times)

Og was making a claim of extortion (which typically involves money)... the thread he linked, which I admittedly don't remember seeing at the time (or ignored as more useless bickering), was some sort of nonsense public "settlement" about leaving the forum and getting their accounts banned. I don't care what Og or others pay in taxes and do not want his tax number . I believe one should pay taxes, but I also believe the government takes too much (then uses it inappropriately).. so I can't take issue with trying to legally minimize the amount that is taken away.

I stated in my prior post that I'm ignoring both Vod's and OgNasty's statements that do not present any evidence. The one time I did question Vod about the content to one of Og's chopped up PMs, he provided additional context/evidence which showed more of the conversation and IMO showed Og to be misrepresenting the truth. I've already explained this. Og hasn't provided anything but generalized comments which are basically saying things along the lines of "the full context won't make this any better for Vod".. but then he won't provide them?

I'm not saying I agree with the snarky comment that Og spun into some sort of demand for merit and abusing his position as a merit source, but Og seems to be intently trying to deceive to smear someone in this thread and it appears pretty vindictive to me.


I do not condone violent behavior.. including a few posts ago when you were making your own thinly veiled threat.. to someone who hasn't even been determined to be a scammer.

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I didn't just call you a trust abuser, I proved it over and over again with documented evidence of your behavior, unlike you who have substantiated ZERO of your accusations against myself or OGNasty for that matter. You sure do a lot of arguing for some one who doesn't care.

You apparently.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/og-i-want-to-negotiate-a-settlement-5142607 - Don't get me started on what personal information a "settlement" would require me to provide Vod.  I can't believe any honest person would stand behind the bullying of another innocent user in order to try and get their tax identification information.

You didn't mention anything about your thoughts of Vod encouraging people to throw rocks through another forum user's windows to cause financial damage.  Are you ok with that too?

I've provided plenty of evidence that Vod is delusional and has made up claims about me as well as having a history of trying to get forum users to break the law to harass people he disagrees with.  Vod cannot provide any evidence to back up any of his claims, yet I'm the one you constantly take shots at despite my proving every claim I've made against Vod.  How about Vod posts the PM where I allegedly offer him NastyMining shares to sponsor his website and I will drop this ordeal.  It's a claim he has repeated multiple times.  Seems easy enough for him to end this if he wants to.  Otherwise, he can admit he's a liar and this whole bullshit scenario was him trying to cover the embarrassment of his damaged ego.  The problem is that he continues to stand by his lies with no evidence whatsoever and people like you attack the person stating the truth.  Regardless of how petty this is, I'm in the right, I've been honest about the situation, and I suspect trying to berate me in support of Vod will not age well for you.

True.  You have called me a trust abuser many times.  Any time you disagree with my trust. 

You also have a long daily history of calling other profiles trust abusers!

But, I don't care. 

We both have a long documented history of calling out YOUR trust system abuse, which is well documented here, along with your pages and pages of attempting to avoid directly addressing any accusations, as well as refusing to document accusations of your own. You keep saying you don't care, but I don't think that word means what you think it does.


Funny you aren't asking Vod to present any facts...

I guess OGNasty is just guilty until proven innocent? The FACT that Vod had abused his position repeatedly over the years is well documented, here with plenty of facts.

Who wouldn't have a problem with that? lol  At this point, you get ignored on statements like this as well as a lot of Vod's because both have resorted to just hoping the person reading believes them, instead of them being able to make an informed decision on anything new being brought up. Informed decisions require good facts which are backed with evidence or proof. If you're not doing this, you're adding to the shit show.


And how exactly does one get access to the truth?
theymos, I want access!!.. I can handle it!  

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https://blogs.butler.edu/cepa/2013/12/14/is-being-logical-the-same-as-being-ethical/

You and OG have a long documented history of crying trust abuse.  If you have specific examples of lies or abuse, point them out and I will address them.   Bumping a drum and chanting "liar" is boring to everyone.

I care what interested crypto newbies think about me, because I see a future in crypto.  I don't care what you or OG think. 

I hope that answers your question.   
(Actually, I don't care lol)

If you don't care why are you trying to stop people calling you out for your long documented pattern of lies and abuse? Who the fuck made you an enforcement agent of the IRS, Canadian office? You have no way whatsoever to substantiate your claims first of all. Even IF it were true it is still NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. Everyone is well aware the ONLY reason you made this accusation/report was to retaliate against some one who dared to be critical of your behavior.

At this point I have no respect for anyone who thinks you deserve inclusion in the default trust as you have repeated ad nauseam to abuse the authority it gives you and use it as a personal tool of retribution against your critics. I am not sure if they continue including you out of apathy or fear of retribution, but either way there is no excuse to continue to give you access to a tool designed to protect users from fraud so you can use it as a cudgel to beat people you don't agree with over the head.

Not really... just trying to stop the constant "vod is a liar" kiddy drum.  If OG would just write "I have not been collecting or paying taxes on my bitcoin business, but I will start now." I wouldn't have to ever take him off ignore. 

What bothers me most isn't that he is denying he sold anything tax free - it's that he is still doing it while he is in all this trouble - just to save his vanity here and win his imaginary war with me.  Unfortunately for bitcoin, anyone who is buying or selling with him probably also be contacted when they try to cash out.   And he also doesn't care that is hurting these newbies...

The fact that people exist who disagree with you and call you on your lies and abuse does not constitute manipulation. For some one who doesn't care you sure do spend an awful lot of time and energy stalking and harassing anyone who dares criticize your behavior.

Techy, when I consider how you and OG have manipulated the trust system, I realize I don't care what you two idiots think.   

That's right Vod, everyone else is responsible for your behavior. You have no room to accuse anyone of abusing their position on the default trust after your YEARS long pattern of abuse. Vod has made it abundantly clear he intends to continue his abusive behavior, and he will do so because this community refuses to hold him accountable and strip that authority from him. The current default trust list is mostly populated with people more interested in preserving their position on it rather than preserving the standards they pretend to uphold for it.

You are the person who has encouraged my behavior the most.  You kept handing me shovels, remember?     No one else cares.

So how much longer will OG be allowed to support this and abuse his DT position?

So long as I have your blessing...

Vod has a long history of abuse and trying to get others to do his dirty work for him at their own risk.  From trying to get users arrested for destruction of property by encouraging throwing rocks through windows, to now presenting false information and encouraging it's reporting to authorities risking having users arrested for perjury.  This one trick pony is as nutless and shameful as they come...  How much longer will not only this behavior, but those supporting this behavior be allowed to continue abusing their DT status here?

Continue this thread for as long as you want.  No one has ever seen a tax number from you, so if you did pay six figure tax bills like you claim, the IRS thanks you for your generosity, paying taxes you never collected.

You're really not worth my time anymore.  Nothing that is happening to you now is my fault.



Absolutely!  I would have appreciated 5 btc a month for doing literally nothing as well. 

Indeed.  Not to mention the way the payouts were structured, the IRS was the biggest winner.  I paid Uncle Sam and got stuck with massive (unclaimed) capital losses.  I'm very happy to see the new setup is much more similar to the way NastyFans donations are distributed, and spreading it out amongst multiple users has the potential to reduce the amount of those funds that ends up being eaten by taxes, while simultaneously saving the forum quite a bit of money with the restructuring.  I don't think anyone expected that I'd be getting 6 figure payouts when I offered to be the treasurer for a few dollars a month all those years ago, but that's what happened.  I'm glad I got the chance to prove that I can be trusted with millions of dollars as that was a priceless opportunity most never get.  It was literally a dream come true.  I'm proud of the role I got to play and have no problem with my honest and honorable behavior being spotlighted.

While Vod is spotlighting my honorable behavior, I'd like to say this is the same guy who tried to "negotiate a settlement" with me and then dedicated a massive amount of his time to lying about my actions in an attempt to harm my reputation when I refused to "settle" whatever he felt I did wrong.  I guess nobody sees a problem with someone making up a tax evasion story about someone in order to attempt to extort a settlement on behalf of a government revenue collection agency in another country?

He was removed because of some sole reasons, and based on some past incidences of loss in forum funds due to the disappearance of the treasurer holder ( probably due to death ). To avoid this, the decision of returning the forum funds was taken and OG returned them clear handedly back to the forum. I don't think someone having a bad taste of ethics would do this in anyways. This is something to be appreciated not to be criticized upon.

OG, you sure have used Theymos' name or position a lot recently in your lies.  Is that why he removed you from your lucrative sole position of forum treasurer?

He has already stated he trusts me and I have access to the truth. I don't care if he doesn't trust you.

I'm happy to see new a couple new lies though - you were getting redundant and boring.  

That's why I'm trusted by the people who have access to the truth, and you aren't.  Spend the rest of your life spreading lies and being ridiculed on a daily basis if you want.  You're a joke Vod, and you're the only one not in on it.  Nobody with half a brain believes anything you say.  A shame how you threw away so many years of effort being a decent asshole to now be viewed as a liar with a serious inferiority complex.  I mean, how delusional do you have to be to think you had an effect on a stranger's taxes in another country, when those taxes were filed long before you started your trolling tirade?  I'd guess delusional enough to not be trusted by the forum's administrator and have your privileges as a merit source removed.  I wonder what's next?  Permanent forum ban for being a troll?  Arrested for perjury?  Heart attack from the stress of having your reputation destroyed?  Some other horrible unknown consequence for being a liar?  It's all just speculation on my end.  Much like your entire pathetic trolling of me.  I'm long out of popcorn, but I always stick around for the cut scenes after the credits.

Maybe one day OG will come clean to everyone.  But only if he has nothing else to lose.  (He is a push you over so he can flee kind of guy).

If OG is so respected, why is no one coming forward to post his public tax number?  lol  Someone, ANYONE, please help this pathetic guy out.