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Topic: Vod making false accusations about me | Providing proof for Mod or admin (Read 2547 times)

legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
You do know there are two types right?

No I don't, please explain it, so I know what sort of license terms I'm getting if I buy one of these. Better yet, post a copy of the license terms or an explanation of those terms from Microsoft as I did (for the other type?).

You will be getting retailed based keys just as if you are buying from best buy or target etc...

Please post a copy of your MSDN license terms that says that, or some sort of reference to it on Microsoft web site, because it isn't something I'm familiar with at all.


Well obviously I am not supposed to be selling them but I am. I am breaking their terms but I was just clarifying that Vod was making false accusations saying that it was a hacked msdn.

Its clear that sales of the keys are against their rules. People still sell it.

https://forum.raymond.cc/threads/the-legality-aspects-of-using-msdn-technet-subscription-license-and-the-ugly-truth.18251/
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For those of you who sell/purchase a license key generated from a MSDN/Technet Subscription, here is a fact you should be aware of:

If Microsoft detects a lot of "unusual" behavior or "questionable" activities, they might decide to investigate. If the seller is caught, the seller's account will be canceled and the keys will be invalidated/blocked.

Hence, before you decide to sell/purchase a license key generated from a MSDN/Technet Subscription, be sure to think twice or thrice before taking that decision. It's a risk that you have to decide for yourself.



This sounds like what you are supposed to be doing:
https://mspartner.microsoft.com/en/hk/Pages/Licensing/Become-a-licensing-reseller.aspx#BecomeAreseller

Because your not, your violating the MSDN subscription terms of service... I believe these licenses will be blacklisted when/if Microsoft finds out.
and I would expect Vod may likely inform them...

You've also admitted in the post above that your not supposed to be selling them. For all of the above, I'm inclined to leave feedback to ensure others do not get dropped in the gutter when these licenses stop working.

Find a more ethical business practice...    Angry


hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Is there a link to the TOS for these Microsoft licenses love to read that?

TOS is a matter of civil law anyway. Breaking TOS is not a crime but you may be held liable for damages, it is much different than criminal law. If every virtual good on this forum had to follow TOS there would be no virtual goods. Go read them, they virtually all exclude non-authorized retailers.

Not complaining about the civil TOS but the obvious criminal theft.  The scammer wants you to believe they own these MSDN/BizSpark/whatever subscriptions legally, yet they sell more keys than they have on that subscription.  So they are asking you to believe they are legally purchasing multiple copies of these thousand dollar subscriptions and selling the contents for hundreds.  They are just that charitable.  lol
 

Murky buckets.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Is there a link to the TOS for these Microsoft licenses love to read that?

TOS is a matter of civil law anyway. Breaking TOS is not a crime but you may be held liable for damages, it is much different than criminal law. If every virtual good on this forum had to follow TOS there would be no virtual goods. Go read them, they virtually all exclude non-authorized retailers.

Not complaining about the civil TOS but the obvious criminal theft.  The scammer wants you to believe they own these MSDN/BizSpark/whatever subscriptions legally, yet they sell more keys than they have on that subscription.  So they are asking you to believe they are legally purchasing multiple copies of these thousand dollar subscriptions and selling the contents for hundreds.  They are just that charitable.  lol
 
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Is there a link to the TOS for these Microsoft licenses love to read that?

TOS is a matter of civil law anyway. Breaking TOS is not a crime but you may be held liable for damages, it is much different than criminal law. If every virtual good on this forum had to follow TOS there would be no virtual goods. Go read them, they virtually all exclude non-authorized retailers.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Is there a link to the TOS for these Microsoft licenses love to read that?
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
You already tried to let this thread die before my buddy TS bumped it.

Now you are using every excuse in the book to avoid actually proving the keys aren't stolen.

When the admins finally "reply" to you, send me a PM and I'll let them validate your photo ID matches what is in the Microsoft database.

But I'm not holding my breath, and I'm done wasting time on you.

My accusations are not false - you are a liar.  When you scam you get negative feedback.  Cry about it, live with it, or leave.



Lol this guy..Cry more
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
You already tried to let this thread die before my buddy TS bumped it.

Now you are using every excuse in the book to avoid actually proving the keys aren't stolen.

When the admins finally "reply" to you, send me a PM and I'll let them validate your photo ID matches what is in the Microsoft database.

But I'm not holding my breath, and I'm done wasting time on you.

My accusations are not false - you are a liar.  When you scam you get negative feedback.  Cry about it, live with it, or leave.

Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
I already sent the admins a pm. I am waiting for their reply. LOl wtf you talking about temp guest login. You must be an idiot.

A temporary guest login so they can validate your name and subscription on the Microsoft servers.  Your ignorance doesn't make me an idiot.

What you're trying to do is edit the html and take a screenshot - not proof.

If what you are doing is legit, why are you so scared of my finding out the subscription number?   Roll Eyes

If you are legit, nothing would happen!
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
I am only sending to admins and no. You are not having it your way. I am not letting you have information of my stuff.

Ok, which admin?  I can send them a temporary guest login and they can verify your subscription number themselves.  I won't be involved.

You posted you were going to provide proof.  Will you, or are you a liar as well as a scammer?

I already sent the admins a pm. I am waiting for their reply. LOl wtf you talking about temp guest login. You must be an idiot.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
I am only sending to admins and no. You are not having it your way. I am not letting you have information of my stuff.

Ok, which admin?  I can send them a temporary guest login and they can verify your subscription number themselves.  I won't be involved.

You posted you were going to provide proof.  Will you, or are you a liar as well as a scammer?
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
Please just shit or get off the pot. You are boring everyone.

Exactly.  OP is not making any kind of effort to prove he's not selling stolen keys.   Undecided

How about this OP?  You provide your subscription number and your scanned ID to a mod.

The mod then sends me the subscription number (not your name!)

I validate the subscription and send the name of the person it belongs to back to the mod.  The mod can tell me match or no match.

That will prove if the keys belong to you or not, and I will modify my trust.

Willing to do that?

I am only sending to admins and no. You are not having it your way. I am not letting you have information of my stuff.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Please just shit or get off the pot. You are boring everyone.

Exactly.  OP is not making any kind of effort to prove he's not selling stolen keys.   Undecided

How about this OP?  You provide your subscription number and your scanned ID to a mod.

The mod then sends me the subscription number (not your name!)

I validate the subscription and send the name of the person it belongs to back to the mod.  The mod can tell me match or no match.

That will prove if the keys belong to you or not, and I will modify my trust.

Willing to do that?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Please just shit or get off the pot. You are boring everyone.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
Someone obviously can't read as mentioned it was given to me directly from microsoft. Didn't have to pay for it. It all under my name idiot.

Please forward me the email including the subscription number.  (I will keep it private.)  I'll verify it was given to you by Microsoft and that you rights to sell them for profit, and I'll edit your trust.  Smiley

[email protected]

(P.S.  It will have to have your real name on it, not just "To: idiot")   Smiley

Someone seems to not be capable of reading. I said I would only give the information to staff not some tryhard vod.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Someone obviously can't read as mentioned it was given to me directly from microsoft. Didn't have to pay for it. It all under my name idiot.

Please forward me the email including the subscription number.  (I will keep it private.)  I'll verify it was given to you by Microsoft and that you rights to sell them for profit, and I'll edit your trust.  Smiley

[email protected]

(P.S.  It will have to have your real name on it, not just "To: idiot")   Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 268
Merit: 258
LOL - Calling me a fag shows your lack of maturity and increases the chances of you being a scammer ... what do you have against fags anyway you ignorant, intolerant child?    Do they get better grades than you?  Undecided

Send the receipt of your purchase of the account to me (I won't reveal it to anyone else other confirm with Microsoft) or one of the mods/admins.  You claimed I'm making false accusations of you - we're waiting for the proof you promised...



Someone obviously can't read as mentioned it was given to me directly from microsoft. Didn't have to pay for it. It all under my name idiot.
Since it is an MSDN subscription, don't you get an invoice emailed to you every month? Perhaps you could show us that.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 100
LOL - Calling me a fag shows your lack of maturity and increases the chances of you being a scammer ... what do you have against fags anyway you ignorant, intolerant child?    Do they get better grades than you?  Undecided

Send the receipt of your purchase of the account to me (I won't reveal it to anyone else other confirm with Microsoft) or one of the mods/admins.  You claimed I'm making false accusations of you - we're waiting for the proof you promised...



Someone obviously can't read as mentioned it was given to me directly from microsoft. Didn't have to pay for it. It all under my name idiot.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
LOL - Calling me a fag shows your lack of maturity and increases the chances of you being a scammer ... what do you have against fags anyway you ignorant, intolerant child?    Do they get better grades than you?  Undecided

Send the receipt of your purchase of the account to me (I won't reveal it to anyone else other confirm with Microsoft) or one of the mods/admins.  You claimed I'm making false accusations of you - we're waiting for the proof you promised...



Gay bashing the last bastion of a scammer caught scamming. Hate speech just puts the icing on the cake.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
Not sure what your photo proved.  Roll Eyes

Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
LOL - Calling me a fag shows your lack of maturity and increases the chances of you being a scammer ... what do you have against fags anyway you ignorant, intolerant child?    Do they get better grades than you?  Undecided

Send the receipt of your purchase of the account to me (I won't reveal it to anyone else other confirm with Microsoft) or one of the mods/admins.  You claimed I'm making false accusations of you - we're waiting for the proof you promised...

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