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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on September 04, 2023, 01:46:37 AM

Volatility in Bitcoin is indeed unique and different from the volatility that exists in other assets. Because volatility in Bitcoin can indeed be seen in every term, be it short term or long term because it is always affected by sharper and bigger levels of price changes. Meanwhile, in gold or real estate assets, this kind of thing is very rarely seen and almost non-existent because the increase in prices for gold or real estate itself is also very slow even though the level of price durability itself can be very good.

volatility is present in every assets but people get worried with Bitcoin's volatility I don't know what the reason but whenever the becomes dip in gold price then people says that it will recover back soon but in most of the cases people are in fear when they see volatility in crypto.

I think bitcoins profit is online whereas that of gold and other asset are physical so may be people feels its risky as they have no access towards it. There is achievement in every assets but one should be familiar with the advantageous time and strategies to get the prize in the form of enhanced price.

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It can be said that volatility is essential when it comes to investing because it is through it that we can make a profit. But whether we can make a profit or whether it will be harmful to us depends on our own abilities. Like @Watche said, volatility is like a double-edged sword, if someone knows how to use it, it will have very good effects, but if someone doesn't know how to use it, it will harm them.

Cryptocurrency is famous for its volatility, I know many gold and stock investors turn to bitcoin because they like its high volatility. The more volatile the market, the higher your chances of making money.

Agreed. Volatility is what attracts traders. But the main question is why volatility occurs. If the trading volume is low, even a small buy or sell can lead to major price changes, i.e. volatility is there, but you can't capitalize on it. Therefore, you need to have a good understanding of the nature of volatility

I believe that market volatility is intentionally created by someone, not volatility according to market demand. in addition to macro news that affects market sentiment, sometimes we can also see fluctuations that occur unexpectedly and there is no explanation for it. market makers know we like volatility, and perhaps that's their way of making us care more about the markets. every time the market fluctuates, people are very eager to long/short and the result is known to everyone, many long/short orders are liquidated afterward.

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Quote from: posi on September 03, 2023, 11:59:40 PM

What you're talking about is short-term volatility, but volatility also has long-term effects. As you know during the off season bitcoin is dumped very severely but during the bull season it also increases in price wildly and that can also be called extreme volatility. You won't see that volatility with gold or real estate, so when it comes to bitcoin volatility it can be used either long term or short term. Don't think that bitcoin's volatility will only happen in the short term.

Volatility in Bitcoin is indeed unique and different from the volatility that exists in other assets. Because volatility in Bitcoin can indeed be seen in every term, be it short term or long term because it is always affected by sharper and bigger levels of price changes. Meanwhile, in gold or real estate assets, this kind of thing is very rarely seen and almost non-existent because the increase in prices for gold or real estate itself is also very slow even though the level of price durability itself can be very good.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 03, 2023, 03:23:39 PM

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 30, 2023, 03:05:42 AM

The volatility in the market can bring opportunity for other investors in this field of Bitcoin or crypto. And for others, it can cause them bad things if they don't have a deep understanding of this industry. But do you know that volatility also teaches us to balance the assets we have here and decide if we should buy or sell? Because this is the beauty of volatility, actually.

That's why others say that this is an opportunity because it gives us a signal to have income, or else we will be even more prudent in what we do here as investors or holders.

It can be said that volatility is essential when it comes to investing because it is through it that we can make a profit. But whether we can make a profit or whether it will be harmful to us depends on our own abilities. Like @Watche said, volatility is like a double-edged sword, if someone knows how to use it, it will have very good effects, but if someone doesn't know how to use it, it will harm them.

Cryptocurrency is famous for its volatility, I know many gold and stock investors turn to bitcoin because they like its high volatility. The more volatile the market, the higher your chances of making money.

I think investing is not something that requires volatility, trading is. When you are investing that means you are going to hold for a while and it can grow slowly and you would still make a profit and you would be happy about it and that's fine however when we are talking about trading that's going to be different and you may want to see some volatility so you could make a profit.

In order to make a profit from trading, you need to end up with a up and down constantly to make that profit, otherwise you are not going to make that profit easily. I get that it is not that simple, but it should not be, that's not the point and you should be making some profit that would make more sense on the long run whenever you can.

What you're talking about is short-term volatility, but volatility also has long-term effects. As you know during the off season bitcoin is dumped very severely but during the bull season it also increases in price wildly and that can also be called extreme volatility. You won't see that volatility with gold or real estate, so when it comes to bitcoin volatility it can be used either long term or short term. Don't think that bitcoin's volatility will only happen in the short term.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 30, 2023, 03:17:41 AM

It can be said that volatility is essential when it comes to investing because it is through it that we can make a profit. But whether we can make a profit or whether it will be harmful to us depends on our own abilities. Like @Watche said, volatility is like a double-edged sword, if someone knows how to use it, it will have very good effects, but if someone doesn't know how to use it, it will harm them.

Cryptocurrency is famous for its volatility, I know many gold and stock investors turn to bitcoin because they like its high volatility. The more volatile the market, the higher your chances of making money.

Agreed. Volatility is what attracts traders. But the main question is why volatility occurs. If the trading volume is low, even a small buy or sell can lead to major price changes, i.e. volatility is there, but you can't capitalize on it. Therefore, you need to have a good understanding of the nature of volatility

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 30, 2023, 03:05:42 AM

The volatility in the market can bring opportunity for other investors in this field of Bitcoin or crypto. And for others, it can cause them bad things if they don't have a deep understanding of this industry. But do you know that volatility also teaches us to balance the assets we have here and decide if we should buy or sell? Because this is the beauty of volatility, actually.

That's why others say that this is an opportunity because it gives us a signal to have income, or else we will be even more prudent in what we do here as investors or holders.

It can be said that volatility is essential when it comes to investing because it is through it that we can make a profit. But whether we can make a profit or whether it will be harmful to us depends on our own abilities. Like @Watche said, volatility is like a double-edged sword, if someone knows how to use it, it will have very good effects, but if someone doesn't know how to use it, it will harm them.

Cryptocurrency is famous for its volatility, I know many gold and stock investors turn to bitcoin because they like its high volatility. The more volatile the market, the higher your chances of making money.

I think investing is not something that requires volatility, trading is. When you are investing that means you are going to hold for a while and it can grow slowly and you would still make a profit and you would be happy about it and that's fine however when we are talking about trading that's going to be different and you may want to see some volatility so you could make a profit.

In order to make a profit from trading, you need to end up with a up and down constantly to make that profit, otherwise you are not going to make that profit easily. I get that it is not that simple, but it should not be, that's not the point and you should be making some profit that would make more sense on the long run whenever you can.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 30, 2023, 03:05:42 AM

The volatility in the market can bring opportunity for other investors in this field of Bitcoin or crypto. And for others, it can cause them bad things if they don't have a deep understanding of this industry. But do you know that volatility also teaches us to balance the assets we have here and decide if we should buy or sell? Because this is the beauty of volatility, actually.

That's why others say that this is an opportunity because it gives us a signal to have income, or else we will be even more prudent in what we do here as investors or holders.

It can be said that volatility is essential when it comes to investing because it is through it that we can make a profit. But whether we can make a profit or whether it will be harmful to us depends on our own abilities. Like @Watche said, volatility is like a double-edged sword, if someone knows how to use it, it will have very good effects, but if someone doesn't know how to use it, it will harm them.

Cryptocurrency is famous for its volatility, I know many gold and stock investors turn to bitcoin because they like its high volatility. The more volatile the market, the higher your chances of making money.

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The volatility in the market can bring opportunity for other investors in this field of Bitcoin or crypto. And for others, it can cause them bad things if they don't have a deep understanding of this industry. But do you know that volatility also teaches us to balance the assets we have here and decide if we should buy or sell? Because this is the beauty of volatility, actually.

That's why others say that this is an opportunity because it gives us a signal to have income, or else we will be even more prudent in what we do here as investors or holders.

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Quote from: WatChe on August 30, 2023, 12:08:37 AM

Quote from: gunhell16 on August 19, 2023, 05:36:27 AM

Almost the majority of the community here in the bitcoin space knows that it is volatile, in short most are aware of it. So it's not new. The level of aggressiveness of volatility only varies depending on the movement of demand supply and news in the bitcoin industry.

But the volatility that Bitcoin has is a good feature of Bitcoin for any traders to make money, depending on the understanding of each individual who will carry out the trading activity. And it is also possible to lose or lose the capital investment natib if we are careless.

The volatility of Bitcoin is like a double edge sword and can move in both directions. Its volatility that took BTC price from 26k to around 28k yesterday and anyone who has bought Bitcoin on 26k or below has already good adequate benefit. To me price volatility has done more harm to Bitcoin then good, its good for day traders but to achieve BTC mainstream adoption we need to have stable BTC.

Bitcoin is becoming known and attracting people's attention because of its volatility, they can make profits from it. If bitcoin becomes stable and ceases to be profitable, will it still be as attractive as it is today? I also know that in addition to profit, bitcoin has many other useful uses such as being able to become our own bank, transferring money across borders without spending too much time or incurring other costs...But obviously, we are focusing on its profitability more than any other feature. So if it stabilizes, I'm afraid it will lose its appeal.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 19, 2023, 05:36:27 AM

Almost the majority of the community here in the bitcoin space knows that it is volatile, in short most are aware of it. So it's not new. The level of aggressiveness of volatility only varies depending on the movement of demand supply and news in the bitcoin industry.

But the volatility that Bitcoin has is a good feature of Bitcoin for any traders to make money, depending on the understanding of each individual who will carry out the trading activity. And it is also possible to lose or lose the capital investment natib if we are careless.

The volatility of Bitcoin is like a double edge sword and can move in both directions. Its volatility that took BTC price from 26k to around 28k yesterday and anyone who has bought Bitcoin on 26k or below has already good adequate benefit. To me price volatility has done more harm to Bitcoin then good, its good for day traders but to achieve BTC mainstream adoption we need to have stable BTC.

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actually your investigation is at some point useless , because everything that you said has been tackled and mentioned in this forum for how many times,
and the simple thing to explain is? Volatility is about Supply and Demand.

Quote from: Joshapat on August 23, 2023, 06:18:08 AM

Bitcoin is a very volatile commodity, on average daily price fluctuations may range from 1 to 4 percent but things that happen several times are that it can reach 2 digit percent or more than 10%, because bitcoin is very volatile so we must always be vigilant and don't make it a the greatest asset that we hold.

not only 10% sometimes there are even higher than what we are seeing .

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Quote from: Joshapat on August 23, 2023, 06:18:08 AM

Bitcoin is a very volatile commodity, on average daily price fluctuations may range from 1 to 4 percent but things that happen several times are that it can reach 2 digit percent or more than 10%, because bitcoin is very volatile so we must always be vigilant and don't make it a the greatest asset that we hold.

It depends, it is true that the volatility of bitcoin is extreme for most traders, however if you know what you are doing and you can resist that volatility without selling your coins when there is a dip then I think that person can do well in this market and could make out of bitcoin the asset in which they invest the most money, however someone which cannot endure the volatility should without a doubt diminish the money they invest in this market and maybe even leave this market behind for good.

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Bitcoin is a very volatile commodity, on average daily price fluctuations may range from 1 to 4 percent but things that happen several times are that it can reach 2 digit percent or more than 10%, because bitcoin is very volatile so we must always be vigilant and don't make it a the greatest asset that we hold.

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Quote from: WatChe on August 19, 2023, 04:31:24 AM

Quote from: DanWalker on August 19, 2023, 04:12:24 AM

Even if this year doesn't have any significant drops, there won't be a bull run and that's almost certain. From historical data as well as the macroeconomic situation…all do not support a bullish scenario this year. I even start to think that there will be no recovery at the end of the year when there is news that the Fed still wants to keep raising interest rates because inflation shows signs of increasing again.

People who feel the red market is bad because they bought at a higher bitcoin price or they don't have enough money left to buy more bitcoins. It is not always available to everyone with fiat to invest because as we all know the current economic situation is not very good.

When Bitcoin moved from 16k to 30k we heard that bitcoin is going up because economic condition based on fiat is not good and Bitcoin is the solution. Now we have a dip and there are speculations not in favor of Bitcoin.

In theory, bitcoin was created to fight inflation, it is a viable alternative to fiat when the devaluation of fiat is getting worse. But in reality, bitcoin is being treated as a speculative investment, so I doubt that people will hold bitcoin when inflation or crisis hits. If people actually hold bitcoin to deal with inflation, then I believe there won't be any dumping.

Quote from: WatChe on August 19, 2023, 04:31:24 AM

I don't know from where bitcoin will move from here, but based on my experience with bitcoin I can affirm that this situation is very much normal and there is nothing to worry about. I am not selling my Bitcoins and so should everyone.

What's happening is a very normal thing, and I think it's just the bitcoin's movement. Bitcoin has increased, it must decrease and vice versa, after falling, Bitcoin will definitely increase. So as long as we don't sell bitcoin when it drops in price, nothing will happen to us.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 19, 2023, 05:36:27 AM

Almost the majority of the community here in the bitcoin space knows that it is volatile, in short most are aware of it. So it's not new. The level of aggressiveness of volatility only varies depending on the movement of demand supply and news in the bitcoin industry.

But the volatility that Bitcoin has is a good feature of Bitcoin for any traders to make money, depending on the understanding of each individual who will carry out the trading activity. And it is also possible to lose or lose the capital investment natib if we are careless.

Bitcoin volatility has its pros and cons, it's not quite as good as we think. Bitcoin's volatility would be a good feature for investors, but for those who use bitcoin as currency, it is a very annoying feature. It can be said that depending on how each person uses bitcoin, we will see this volatility feature good or bad.

We don't have too many people using bitcoin as a currency, most of us are looking at bitcoin as an investment to make a profit. So my question is, will bitcoin still become popular and widely used if its volatility disappears?

And the reason why businesses are not preferred to accept Bitcoin than just keep on fiat. Of course, volatility was not good for them as it was so stressful on their part but investors does and profited more. So until now, the majority are considered it as an investment and even it was been accepted in our place, it was seldom for someone to use it to buy stuff instead, they just converted it to fiat money because of its value. And so I understand that merchats wanted to see Bitcoin become less volatile for at least, it was not too risky on their part.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on August 19, 2023, 05:36:27 AM

Almost the majority of the community here in the bitcoin space knows that it is volatile, in short most are aware of it. So it's not new. The level of aggressiveness of volatility only varies depending on the movement of demand supply and news in the bitcoin industry.

But the volatility that Bitcoin has is a good feature of Bitcoin for any traders to make money, depending on the understanding of each individual who will carry out the trading activity. And it is also possible to lose or lose the capital investment natib if we are careless.

Bitcoin volatility has its pros and cons, it's not quite as good as we think. Bitcoin's volatility would be a good feature for investors, but for those who use bitcoin as currency, it is a very annoying feature. It can be said that depending on how each person uses bitcoin, we will see this volatility feature good or bad.

We don't have too many people using bitcoin as a currency, most of us are looking at bitcoin as an investment to make a profit. So my question is, will bitcoin still become popular and widely used if its volatility disappears?

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Almost the majority of the community here in the bitcoin space knows that it is volatile, in short most are aware of it. So it's not new. The level of aggressiveness of volatility only varies depending on the movement of demand supply and news in the bitcoin industry.

But the volatility that Bitcoin has is a good feature of Bitcoin for any traders to make money, depending on the understanding of each individual who will carry out the trading activity. And it is also possible to lose or lose the capital investment natib if we are careless.

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Quote from: DanWalker on August 19, 2023, 04:12:24 AM

Even if this year doesn't have any significant drops, there won't be a bull run and that's almost certain. From historical data as well as the macroeconomic situation…all do not support a bullish scenario this year. I even start to think that there will be no recovery at the end of the year when there is news that the Fed still wants to keep raising interest rates because inflation shows signs of increasing again.

People who feel the red market is bad because they bought at a higher bitcoin price or they don't have enough money left to buy more bitcoins. It is not always available to everyone with fiat to invest because as we all know the current economic situation is not very good.

When Bitcoin moved from 16k to 30k we heard that bitcoin is going up because economic condition based on fiat is not good and Bitcoin is the solution. Now we have a dip and there are speculations not in favor of Bitcoin. I don't know from where bitcoin will move from here, but based on my experience with bitcoin I can affirm that this situation is very much normal and there is nothing to worry about. I am not selling my Bitcoins and so should everyone.

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Quote from: Pejoh Asu on August 18, 2023, 10:33:15 AM

Today is another bad record because the price has dropped by more than 7%, the price is getting farther away from the bull run and it doesn't seem like it will happen this year, bitcoin's volatility is still high, so we must always be vigilant, I use coinbase which gives a warning if there is a price fluctuation high of more than 5% in a day, but we shouldn't panic in facing dump situations like today.

Bull run was never going to happen this year, this year was meant for recovery and we're still going to have that at the later part of the year, we still have like 4 months before the year ends and that's a very long time for the narrative of the market to change from bearish to bullish.

Don't see red days in the market as a bad day, that's not a mindset of a smart investor. You have to see all red days as an opportunity to accumulate Bitcoin because if you join the crowd by panicking and selling your Bitcoin, there's another smart inventor buying them off you.

Instead of selling, we should be buying and hold until Bitcoin has given us profit to sell. Bear market are for accumulating and we should be expecting days like today in the market that's why we should have fiats available so we can enter the market and buy at a discount of -7%.

Even if this year doesn't have any significant drops, there won't be a bull run and that's almost certain. From historical data as well as the macroeconomic situation…all do not support a bullish scenario this year. I even start to think that there will be no recovery at the end of the year when there is news that the Fed still wants to keep raising interest rates because inflation shows signs of increasing again.

People who feel the red market is bad because they bought at a higher bitcoin price or they don't have enough money left to buy more bitcoins. It is not always available to everyone with fiat to invest because as we all know the current economic situation is not very good.

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Quote from: Pejoh Asu on August 18, 2023, 10:33:15 AM

Today is another bad record because the price has dropped by more than 7%, the price is getting farther away from the bull run and it doesn't seem like it will happen this year, bitcoin's volatility is still high, so we must always be vigilant, I use coinbase which gives a warning if there is a price fluctuation high of more than 5% in a day, but we shouldn't panic in facing dump situations like today.

It is bad news to people who are planning on selling their Bitcoin holdings but for those who wanted to accumulate, the Bitcoin dump is a very good news to them. Here is some of the reason:

1. We all know that Bitcoin is highly volatile so there is a huge possibility that recovery will happen anytime.
2. Those who wanted to buy can buy BTC at a discount. This is also good for DCA.
3. Bitcoin trend is not always downward, once the Bitcoin bull run kick in, those who buy Bitcoin during a dump like this will have a higher profit when Bitcoin starts its record-breaking ATH event.

Your statement about bitcoin volatility is correct and I support what you said above, but I only have to dispute you in one particular statement that you made. You said that for the fact that bitcoin volatility is still high. It therefore means that bullrun is not close and may not happen. This is an outright fallacy or a misconception. For there to be bull run, it therefore means that bitcoin must be highly volatile. If bitcoin is tilting towards stability, how will bullrun be achieved?
All I have to say is that the people that are holding bitcoin should hold fast and try to accumulate more for the coming bullrun.

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