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Topic: VOTE Should the U.S. Legalize Opium to Smoke? - page 2. (Read 1049 times)

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3/5 choices are basically "yes". What's up with that?

I'd be able to tolerate marijuana but not opium. Everyone seem to forget why China tried to ban it before. It is addictive, which is why it caused problems in China. Rather than mix it with drinks like what's done in other countries, they smoked it, allowing it to be absorbed faster.
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Exactly right, but why should somebody be able to make certain plants illegal in the first place? There are people with asthma who can die from pollen, so should plants that promote asthma be illegal? Who are these people who try to control whether a person can even grow certain plants?

I find your logic flawed.

Plants that produce pollen and triggers asthma to some people is not connected with the topic regarding drugs and growing plants that produce this. Here's the definition for allergy:

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Allergies, also known as allergic diseases, are a number of conditions caused by hypersensitivity of the immune system to something in the environment that usually causes little or no problem in most people. These diseases include hay fever, food allergies, atopic dermatitis, allergic asthma, and anaphylaxis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy

Like people who are allergy to chicken also doesn't mean that it is bad rather it has an adverse effect to some people due to the inborn hypersensitivity to this king of things. It is not on the pollen or the chicken that the fault is on and not on that particular people also but more like natural that influences them to be allergic in these certain things.

On the other hand, drugs are defined:

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A drug is any substance (other than food that provides nutritional support) that, when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin, or dissolved under the tongue causes a physiological change in the body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug

There are drugs used for medical purposes which can be categorized as either over-the-counter or prescription. Some drugs who have strong content though recognized as to be used effectively to treat some sickness should be used in moderation but also prone to abuse that will lead to endanger someone's life.

Though there are drugs considered as illegal or dangerous. Some of these can be used medically like Marijuana but the danger is much greater than its treatment so medical experts are thinking twice to consider this since it is risky to handle it with its side effects. The fact is these drugs are nothing but an addiction which will not help you in anyway that's why I can't understand these people as to why they have initially think to take this drugs which doesn't bring an actual benefit to them.

To protect its citizens from these foreboding drugs that will harm them (the users and people surrounding them). It is the duty of the government to maintain order, safety and security but since these drugs are threat to this then the government should do everything in its power to extinguish this.

Whether some citizens would not agree, they will still do this since it is their responsibility like parents who needs to restrict there child to the dangers which either the child knows the danger or not, whether he like or not. The point is it is for the sake of everyone.



I don't really get it. Like smoking who have nothing but to damage your health but the government has allowed this to satisfy their addiction since it doesn't have that very strong effects with some moderation. Like illegal drugs, it has nothing that truly benefits us a side the feeling that I don't actually know since I'm not into with these kind of things.

Do you really want somebody to tell you every thing that is good or bad for you, and punish you when you do something 'they' don't like?

Is 'the government' like a mother or a father in your opinion?

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Exactly right, but why should somebody be able to make certain plants illegal in the first place? There are people with asthma who can die from pollen, so should plants that promote asthma be illegal? Who are these people who try to control whether a person can even grow certain plants?

I find your logic flawed.

Plants that produce pollen and triggers asthma to some people is not connected with the topic regarding drugs and growing plants that produce this. Here's the definition for allergy:

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Allergies, also known as allergic diseases, are a number of conditions caused by hypersensitivity of the immune system to something in the environment that usually causes little or no problem in most people. These diseases include hay fever, food allergies, atopic dermatitis, allergic asthma, and anaphylaxis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy

Like people who are allergy to chicken also doesn't mean that it is bad rather it has an adverse effect to some people due to the inborn hypersensitivity to this king of things. It is not on the pollen or the chicken that the fault is on and not on that particular people also but more like natural that influences them to be allergic in these certain things.

On the other hand, drugs are defined:

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A drug is any substance (other than food that provides nutritional support) that, when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin, or dissolved under the tongue causes a physiological change in the body.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug

There are drugs used for medical purposes which can be categorized as either over-the-counter or prescription. Some drugs who have strong content though recognized as to be used effectively to treat some sickness should be used in moderation but also prone to abuse that will lead to endanger someone's life.

Though there are drugs considered as illegal or dangerous. Some of these can be used medically like Marijuana but the danger is much greater than its treatment so medical experts are thinking twice to consider this since it is risky to handle it with its side effects. The fact is these drugs are nothing but an addiction which will not help you in anyway that's why I can't understand these people as to why they have initially think to take this drugs which doesn't bring an actual benefit to them.

To protect its citizens from these foreboding drugs that will harm them (the users and people surrounding them). It is the duty of the government to maintain order, safety and security but since these drugs are threat to this then the government should do everything in its power to extinguish this.

Whether some citizens would not agree, they will still do this since it is their responsibility like parents who needs to restrict there child to the dangers which either the child knows the danger or not, whether he like or not. The point is it is for the sake of everyone.



I don't really get it. Like smoking who have nothing but to damage your health but the government has allowed this to satisfy their addiction since it doesn't have that very strong effects with some moderation. Like illegal drugs, it has nothing that truly benefits us a side the feeling that I don't actually know since I'm not into with these kind of things.
legendary
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I really doubt whether the American government will allow anything like this. Synthetic opioid drugs are among the top revenue earners for most of the pharma companies in the United States. If opium is allowed, the sales of these drugs are going to get affected, and the pharma cartel is not going to let that happen.
sr. member
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... So I am all in favor of allowing ...

Maybe the question should be "Are there people with legitimate authority to prohibit a plant from existing?".

Why should a person have to wonder whether somebody will allow a plant?

 Huh

I understand it is a political practicality to ban cutting down a tree, taking a branch, and beating somebody to death with it.

But if you take leaves or sap from a plant and do not attack me with them, can I still ban you from growing the plant? Pharma drugs cause crime and death. Natural plants do not.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/drug-overdoses-leading-death-people-50-article-1.3223333
legendary
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It is up to the individual to decide which substance he want to intake. So I am all in favor of allowing private consumption of raw opium and marijuana. It can reduce overdose deaths from hard drugs such as heroin and synthetic opioids.
sr. member
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Why isn't there a "no" to choose in the poll, let's be fair here.

Big pharma does not give you the "no" option. You have to use their dangerous synthetic opiate products, which are killing high numbers of people. If you try to use a safer natural product you will go to prison.


I'm not against it, because I'm not interested in what other people are doing in their homes and I don't blame drugs for people's mistakes. If someone does something stupid on drugs it's his fault and he is responsible, not the drug or a person that sold it to him, therefore I support legalization.

Exactly right, but why should somebody be able to make certain plants illegal in the first place? There are people with asthma who can die from pollen, so should plants that promote asthma be illegal? Who are these people who try to control whether a person can even grow certain plants?
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Didn't Portugal legalize all drugs? I remember they did so and the drug use was reduce for a lot and as much as I remember, the drug addiction has been treated as a disease there, but I may be wrong tho.

Yes, legalize everything there is and let those who are stupid enough, to ruin their life with drugs, ruin it. Gotta push that natural selection a little.
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I don't support the legalization of all drugs. Even if the Smoking of opium does not die from an overdose of it will still lead to addiction and the addict will be looking for harder drugs. I am against Smoking of tobacco and alcohol, and you propose to legalize drugs. My opinion definitely not.
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Why isn't there a "no" to choose in the poll, let's be fair here.

I'm not against it, because I'm not interested in what other people are doing in their homes and I don't blame drugs for people's mistakes. If someone does something stupid on drugs it's his fault and he is responsible, not the drug or a person that sold it to him, therefore I support legalization.

I think OP should edit the options to the questions so that we can answer just yes or no to the question.If natural opium doesnt cause overdosing and thus causing death, The US should protect its citizen by legalizing it just as they did marijuana. It will save a lot of lives.
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Actually, I'm shocked by the fact that someone can raise the topic of legalization of heavy drugs. The fact is that even the grass hemp marijuana And, well, let and in some countries, even her legalized. But what a waste of opium, then this is another conversation. The world is already full of drug addicts, therefore, it is not necessary to provoke people to do what is not already illegal, in terms of drugs.
legendary
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Why isn't there a "no" to choose in the poll, let's be fair here.

I'm not against it, because I'm not interested in what other people are doing in their homes and I don't blame drugs for people's mistakes. If someone does something stupid on drugs it's his fault and he is responsible, not the drug or a person that sold it to him, therefore I support legalization.
sr. member
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Drug overdoses are the number one cause of death now in people under 50 years old in the U.S.

Opium smoking does not result in death, but popping fake opium in the form of synthetics and pills does.

Pharma companies make a fortune discrediting natural medicines.

Should they be allowed to continue victimizing druggie kids?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/drug-overdoses-leading-death-people-50-article-1.3223333
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