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legendary
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May 09, 2015, 01:49:51 AM
#40
Yeah can't believe these bellends have been voted in, say bye bye to the NHS.

The NHS is dead for sure it cant last 5 years of tory at this point.  We'll probably need health insurance after 5 years.

1 thing im fine with is a small cost to see the GP, i get fed up with waiting rooms full of people who dont need to be there.
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May 08, 2015, 06:44:15 PM
#39
Disappointing result, was hoping for some sort of Labour/SNP/Green coalition.  I'm not overly trusting of Labour and their support for broken neo-liberal groupthink, but would have found them tolerable with the far more progressive SNP and Greens to keep them in check.  Without the Lib-Dems to (slightly) curb their excesses, the tories now have free reign to open the throttle on the lie of austerity and speed up the silent transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top.  Rewarding their top donors with backdoor deals and peerages as they go.  Couldn't be more openly corrupt if they tried.

Also, for a forum supposedly as forward-thinking as this one, I'm surprised to see so many supporters for the backwards luddites in ukip.  It seemed like every week they had to sack one of their candidates for spouting abhorrent, discriminatory drivel.  How anyone could find them credible in any way, shape or form would be laughable if it weren't so depressing.  Rampant isolationism is not a recipe for economic stability.  Neither is not having any other realistic or costed policies on anything even remotely important.  Their entire campaign has been "boo, foreigners" and not much else.  While the EU is obviously not without its problems, pulling up the drawbridge and pretending they don't exist is just idiocy.  Globalisation is inevitable, you can't fight it.  Stop pretending that the arbitrary lines on the map are going to continue to have any significance.  They won't in time.  If you don't like it, build a time machine and piss off back to the dark ages, you xenophobic troglodytes.
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May 08, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
#38



Best part of a great night for UK conservatives? The vile George Galloway gets tossed

British conservatives didn’t have a great night in Thursday’s general election; they had a spectacular night.



Political observers were dumbfounded when the exit polling indicated that Prime Minister David Cameron’s party was on track to form a majority government. The pre-election polling suggested that the best his party could hope for was the prospect of forming another coalition government with a severely truncated Liberal Democratic minority in order to shut out an alliance between Labor and the ascendant Scottish National Party. As it happens, the Tories will enjoy monopoly control over the British government until 2020.

Outside of Scotland, progressivism took a real hit. This morning, a number of prominent liberal MPs find themselves unemployed. Perhaps none are more deserving of that status than the vile George Galloway. The former representative of the Bradford West constituency from the Orwellian-named Respect Party was one of the few former parliamentary representatives to lose their seat to a Labour candidate.

Of course, this notoriously gracious politician displaced his trademark magnanimity when he accepted his defeat. “I don’t begrudge the Labour members here their moment of celebration of course,” he said. “But there will be others who are already celebrating: the venal, the vile, the racists, and the Zionists will all be celebrating. The hyena can bounce on the lion’s grave, but it can never be a lion.”

Charming.

This is how this former MP who moonlights as a television host specializing in apologizing for the world’s most brutal regimes has comported himself for decades.

From even before the first Gulf War until the Iraqi dictator met his end on the gallows, Galloway became the foremost Western defender of Saddam Hussein. “Your excellency, Mr President, I greet you in the name of the many thousands of people in Britain who stood against the tide and opposed the war and aggression against Iraq and continue to oppose the war by economic means, which is aimed to strangle the life out of the great people of Iraq,” Galloway wrote to the Butcher of Baghdad ahead of their 1994 meeting. “I still meet families who are calling their newborn sons Saddam. Sir, I salute your courage, your strength your indefatigability. And I want you to know that we are with you until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem.”

After Hussein’s death, Galloway turned to defending other murderous autocratic regimes. “All the papers seem to imply that you get executed in Iran for being gay,” Galloway said in a 2008 television segment. “That’s not true.” Of course, Iran has been known to execute at least 4,000 suspected homosexuals since 1980 for either “active” or “passive” violation of anti-sodomy laws.

Galloway called Syria’s Bashar al-Assad a “breath of fresh air,” a grimly ironic turn of phrase considering that the Syrian dictator has been accused of using poison gas on civilian populations for the last three years with virtual impunity.

Galloway has insisted that he doesn’t recognize the state of Israel and even walked off a debate stage after he was informed that one of his interlocutors was an Israeli citizen.

“Russia has every right, indeed, obligation, to act in defense of its compatriots, its citizens, its economic and military assets which it has on the territory of the Ukraine by agreement and by treaty,” Galloway said of Moscow’s invasion and annexation of portions of Ukrainian territory in an RT interview for which he was well-compensated. Galloway added that it is always unwise for the West to “poke the bear with a stick.”

The former MP has even gone so far as to claim that ISIS’s many victims of persecution, beheading, displacement, and property destruction had been complicit in their own misfortune. “That population is quiescent because of Western policies and Western invasion,” he insisted of the territories in Iraq where ISIS operates, though he was curiously silent on ISIS’s Syrian incubator.

Of course, no anti-Western apologist can avoid the temptation of blaming capitalism for the world’s ills and of dubiously comparing his political adversaries to Hitler. Galloway called George W. Bush, Tony Blair, and other Western leaders of the last decade “criminals,” a title they earned “through their support for Israel, and through their support for a globalized capitalist economic system, which is the biggest killer the world has ever known.”

“It has killed far more people than Adolf Hitler,” Galloway said of the system of free market economics in a 2005 Al Jazeera interview. “It has killed far more people than George Bush. The economic system which these people support, which leaves most of the people in the world hungry, and without clean water to drink.”

A horrible quisling apologist for virtually all of the world’s bad actors, George Galloway has made a career of serving as an insufferable mouthpiece to any tyrant who submits the highest bid. The former MP will now have to offer his services without having the moral authority associated with holding elected office. It’s a small karmic justice but a welcome one to learn that Bradford West constituents finally came to their senses.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/08/best-part-of-a-great-night-for-uk-conservatives-the-vile-george-galloway-gets-tossed/


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May 08, 2015, 03:24:31 PM
#37
Yeah can't believe these bellends have been voted in, say bye bye to the NHS.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
#36
I didn't vote. Pointless. Whoever gets in they're all the same essentially. None would of done much of what they promised and only done a load of other shit that they never mentioned which would be far worse. It's always the same.

Yeah its like they are able to pull the same trick on the population over and over.  Population dont understand the difference between math and english so get fooled.
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May 08, 2015, 11:00:35 AM
#35
Democracy is overrated, especially when the pool of people you can vote for offer absolutely nothing for you. Most people are idiots who just vote for the candidate based on one key issue that they probably won't even stick to. People vote for Clegg based on tuition fees - he backtracks. People vote for Ukip because of immigration, but even if they had of got in they wouldn't have done much about it. Neither will the other parties who claimed they'd clamp down on it. They just say they will to get the votes from bigots and take them away from ukip.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 10:57:45 AM
#34
Most of Europe uses proportional representation. That has no shortage of problems either but at least more people get their choice into a parliament.

There was a referendum regarding this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum,_2011  but it didn't turn the electorate on.

When you add the first past the post system to low turnouts you sometimes end up with a majority government that less than 20% of the country actually voted for.

av is nothing like pr, its some confusing second preference bullshit
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May 08, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
#33
snp and ukip get around the same number of votes. snp gets 58 seats ukip gets one. bankrupt system.
Yea I don't really know that works. If you get the same amount of votes shouldn't you get the same amount of seats? It doesn't make sense to me. It seems like the SNP is a scottish party so maybe they are getting all the scottish seats or something?

http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/first-past-the-post

Most of Europe uses proportional representation. That has no shortage of problems either but at least more people get their choice into a parliament.

There was a referendum regarding this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum,_2011  but it didn't turn the electorate on.

When you add the first past the post system to low turnouts you sometimes end up with a majority government that less than 20% of the country actually voted for.
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May 08, 2015, 09:51:59 AM
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May 08, 2015, 09:46:44 AM
#31
snp and ukip get around the same number of votes. snp gets 58 seats ukip gets one. bankrupt system.
Yea I don't really know that works. If you get the same amount of votes shouldn't you get the same amount of seats? It doesn't make sense to me. It seems like the SNP is a scottish party so maybe they are getting all the scottish seats or something?
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May 08, 2015, 08:50:38 AM
#30
I didn't vote. Pointless. Whoever gets in they're all the same essentially. None would of done much of what they promised and only done a load of other shit that they never mentioned which would be far worse. It's always the same.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
May 08, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
#29
If nothing else comes out of the election, it's time to see a rethink of the first past the post system. Now more than ever millions of voices are being discarded because of it.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 08:19:03 AM
#28
The U.K.'s Conservative party won a decisive victory in the U.K. elections and won more parliamentary seats than expected. The Scottish National Party (SNP) has also made headlines after winning the vast majority of Scottish seats.

Yeah its a nightmare for the public sector and anyone on benefits in the UK is fucked.

30 something % of the country want conservatives i feel like the rest of us or at least some sound just join forces and create some type of alternative smart communes.
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May 08, 2015, 07:50:47 AM
#27
The U.K.'s Conservative party won a decisive victory in the U.K. elections and won more parliamentary seats than expected. The Scottish National Party (SNP) has also made headlines after winning the vast majority of Scottish seats.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 07:47:42 AM
#26
Well looks like the conservatives have won and labour in second, its very predictable, only 2 actual large groups that have the chance to be in first place or second. I of course am hoping that UKIP would have made the 1st or second place, but I think it will be a while before that.

UKIP has had it's time now, I said it just after the European elections, and I will say it again now, when it comes down to it, people to not want UKIP to govern them.
I'm sure lots of people have legitimate concerns regarding immigration, but that doesn't mean that the UK needs politicians in government who have very little experience and an incomplete manifesto.

Let's say they did win and we left the EU... what is their next plan?  The SNPs have a complete idea for what they want for Scotland, UKIP don't for the UK.

With regards to UKIP and SNP having the same number of votes, it's easy to vote for someone you know won't get in.  In the marginals UKIP lost.  I expect that if there was a true PR in the UK, UKIP would have got a much lower share of the vote.
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May 08, 2015, 07:26:52 AM
#25
I am not a resident of the United Kingdom. But still, I believe that only the UKIP is worth voting for. The biggest issue facing the British right now is unlimited immigration (especially that from the non-EU nations), which is putting an enormous strain on the resources.

No it isn't. It's only a problem to ignorant plebs. Why is it apparently ok for poor white people to crap out as many babies as they can yet immigration is apparently an issue. It's only an issue if you have no understanding of economics or what type of people do what jobs.

Royal family need removing ASAP, which party would do that?

None would. It's pretty much written into law. They need to stop taking tax payers money and fund themselves though.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 07:04:37 AM
#24
I am a conservative.  I think that they have done a good job in a bad situation over the last 5 years.

They could have been more extreme, as UKIP would like, and have slashed budgets and stopped immigration, but they didn't.  They could have spent more money, as labour would like, and have us on a similar footing as Greece, but they didn't. 

I think they found a good middle ground.  There were also 2 referendums, and the promise of one more, I think referendums are true direct democracy and should happen much more often.

I'd give them a solid B+, which would make me vote for another term.
It seems that when push came to shove, the British people agreed with me and decided to give the Tories another shot at it.

The other parties have all taken a beating today, with only the SNP, PC and the Greens keeping their leaders!  I feel sorry for the Lib Dems, I included them in the B+ grade for the last government, I hope the Conservatives don't lurch to the right now that they are in sole charge.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 06:53:19 AM
#23
snp and ukip get around the same number of votes. snp gets 58 seats ukip gets one. bankrupt system.
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May 07, 2015, 10:12:25 PM
#22
Well looks like the conservatives have won and labour in second, its very predictable, only 2 actual large groups that have the chance to be in first place or second. I of course am hoping that UKIP would have made the 1st or second place, but I think it will be a while before that.
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May 02, 2015, 11:21:37 AM
#21

It does make sense for George Osborne to embrace Bitcoin

This is why he hasn't
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